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Mon 24/08/09 at 19:36
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Tue 31/07/12 at 15:22
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pete_21 wrote:
Quite a lot gone on this weekend...

Yeah. the Spies accident was nasty - that almost never happens and could have been so so much worse, good it wasn't though - the only thing I've seen similar is when the rear wheel of the (so aptly named) Supersonic Ducati decided to part company with the bike at a track last year!

Everyone is saying he's off to BMW in WSB, not a bad ride at all but I wonder where that leaves haslam?

Good that Hayden gets to stay at ducati - in all honesty, I think he's more likely to be the one to get the results for them at the moment

Rossi never really does what you expect, so I think he's just as likely to stay with ducati as he is to go to yamaha again. My vote is a return to yamaha...

He's meant to be making his mind up before indy so not long to wait.

Oh yeah the race!, it was alright I suppose but no classic...

Yeah, I think laguna seca is always going to be a let down - the Rossi/Stoner duel from a few years back means that anything less than that at that track just isn't good enough - maybe they should move it to cadwell...
Mon 30/07/12 at 15:27
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Quite a lot gone on this weekend, Hayden re-signed for Ducati and it looks like Spies is off back to WSB with BMW (who have apparently offered him mega money). Just when you things couldn't get any worse for the guy he breaks part of his foot and that had a rear swingarm break on him during the race! Can't say that I've ever heard of such a failure, really wouldn't expect that on a factory GP machine. Luckily the awesome corkscrew isn't actually taken all that fast and he was OK, there are other corners on the calendar where that could have been really bad news, Yamaha need to have a serious look at that.

Is Rossi returning to Yamaha now then...? Well one thing I did notice was during Friday free practice (which I watched as my Mrs. was enduring that ridiculously overlong and obscenely expensive Olympic opening ceremony) when Rossi crashed. As he went down did you see the look on the faces of his crew?, they may as well have held up a 'we give up' board! It was a very similar crash to the one he had 2 laps from the end of the race, front end just went on him. I think he really wants to stay but is he really going to subject himself to 2 more years of this?

Oh yeah the race!, it was alright I suppose but no classic. You're dead right Moto 2 & 3 would have been awesome around that place! Still it's closed things up a little bit at the top of the table, it's not over yet.
Thu 26/07/12 at 10:17
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pete_21 wrote:
Hayden will be off to BSB!

That really would be amazing!

Iannone in GP would be good, there's talk of the marc VDS team leasing a Desmo too - who knows!


I know Spies has had a shocking year, but I do feel a bit sorry for him TBH. He came within inches of winning the last race of 2011 and now he's being regularly beaten by both satellite riders? Fast guys don't become slow overnight, I'm really not sure whats going on? With both US rounds up next the timing sucks a bit too!

I guess he's riding a bike designed (now) around Lorenzo and maybe it's not quite right for him. He was quite aggressive in WSB and on the tech3 bike, I guess he just doesn't like the super smooth new yam or the team.

No doubt there's going to be some crazy rumours to come out of the paddock this weekend too! It's a real shame that we don't get moto2 and 3 though, the US are really missing out.
Thu 26/07/12 at 09:55
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No worries, nobody likes spoilers!

I completely agree BSS (and WSS for that matter) has provided great racing recently.

Had a look on some Italian sites last night, one was reporting that the Yamaha line up will be Rossi & Lorenzo while Crutchlow & Iannone will be the factory Ducati riders. I think they must pull some of these stories out of their backsides TBH, by lunchtime Dovi will be on his way to Yamaha, Rossi will be staying at Ducati & Hayden will be off to BSB!

I know Spies has had a shocking year, but I do feel a bit sorry for him TBH. He came within inches of winning the last race of 2011 and now he's being regularly beaten by both satellite riders? Fast guys don't become slow overnight, I'm really not sure whats going on? With both US rounds up next the timing sucks a bit too!
Thu 26/07/12 at 09:00
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Sorry for the delay...I've only just managed to watch all the races from the weekend - I've been avoiding 'spoliers'!

pete_21 wrote:
Ben Spies announced earlier today he will not be on a factory Yamaha next year....

His 'letter' sounded like he's fallen out with people at Yamaha I thought. He said something like 'there's people at yamaha I'll miss' which implies there's some that he wont (lin jarvis....?).

There's rumours of him going of to cycling, staying in GP with Suzuki next year and all kinds of other stuff.

Maybe Cal doesn't need to sign for Ducati just yet then...or maybe Rossi has already taken the seat....

Superbikes was really good - you're right about sykes in race 2, that was a great race and I really thought (and hoped) he was going to win - melandri irritates me a bit sometimes! Good that the ZX10 managed to not eat its tyres halfway through the race though, looks like kawasaki have found a 'softer' (not really the right word considering how powerful it is!) setting for the bike.

Not sure about Haslam either, I wouldn't be suprised if Paul Bird makes enquiries for his CRT team, but Aoyama isn't keeping his ride, so there'll be a seat going spare there.

Silly season is a lot of fun this year!

I really enjoyed the sprint race in the british supersport too, richards and kennedy were almost touching each other for most of the race!
Tue 24/07/12 at 18:19
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Ben Spies announced earlier today he will not be on a factory Yamaha next year....
Mon 23/07/12 at 17:28
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Both Superbike series provided great racing this weekend. I'm sure Tom Sykes was really disappointed not to bag a win but I honestly don't think he could have done anymore. I reckon Race 2 was the best race I ever seen Sykes ride TBH. Still, pole position and 2 second places is hardly a disaster, he couldn't have dreamed of such a result this time last last year. Supersub Baz was impressive too.

The BMW looks a real weapon in the hands of Melandri at the moment but not so much with Haslam?, unless he can pull something really special out of the bag over the next couple of races it looks like he may struggle to keep that ride, especially with BMW 'officially' pulling out of the series at the end of the year. Can't see Aoyama keeping his Ten Kate ride and Haslam was awesome on that Stiggy Honda a few years back so maybe there could be a place for him there? (if it turns out that there is no available ride at BMW).

Barbera has apparently broke his leg in a motocross training accident, going to be out of action for around 6 weeks and (according to the Italian press) will be replaced by Toni Elias.
Fri 20/07/12 at 17:19
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Yeah ,read that earlier. By the looks of things Liberty Racing are fast running out of money. Apparently they arrived at Brno (their home race) but their hospitality unit did not, and more to the point neither did Guintoli's bike or key members of his crew. That press release about their undoubtedly best rider (who let's not forget also won a race for them earlier this year) under performing is plain ludicrous and I would imagine Guintoli found it pretty insulting TBH. He's a very good rider, hope he finds a new job soon, hopefully with a better team!

Rumours seem to have Elias returning to Gresini which doesn't look like being good news for Gino Rea. According to the Italian press Dovi is apparently contemplating a move to WSB is he can't secure a factory GP ride for next year, don't know if he's serious or just calling Yamaha's bluff?
Fri 20/07/12 at 11:32
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Saw a story this morning saying that Guintoli has left/been sacked from his ride in WSB - something about poor results...their press release is on visordown, it doesn't really make much sense!

Not good for him though, maybe he could have Elias' ride in moto2!
Thu 19/07/12 at 17:17
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Numnut wrote:
It's looking more like Brno or just after - which might not be good enough or soon enough for Rossi (especially as the honda boss has said 'i'll put rossi on a factory spec satellite honda' - visordown will tell you all about it).

I think he'll stay with Ducati, and will ultimately win, but who knows...


I did read the Honda story on Visordown as well as the one on Crash where it was reported that Rossi could be on board a Marlboro backed Yamaha next year...

He's clearly the next piece in the rider puzzle for next year but I too think he'll end up staying with Ducati. At the start of the season they were finishing around half a minute behind the race winner, last Sunday it was just 11secs. Even when adding a few extra for Lorenzo waving to the crowd on his final lap, things don't seem anything like as bad as they were earlier in the season.

Now that the rookie rule has been abolished perhaps Mr. Ezpeleta can get rid of that ridiculous 4 bikes per team rule and get a few more machines out there for next year.
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