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Tue 03/09/02 at 13:28
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I am in such a bad way. I had a massive fight with my girlfriend last night. We have been together for over a year and I love her dearly, but last night we had the worst fight ever. We were even physical with each other and I would never usually hit a woman. In the end I told her I wanted her to be out of my house tomorrow - because she lives with me. I slept in another room last night and this morning we didn't say a word to each other. We dodged each other round the house and went to work our seperate ways.

I dont know what to say to her when/if I see her when I get back from work. Deep down I dont want her to go as I love her and we have fun together, but we have been arguing loads and I have been finding myself looking at other women, thinking "she looks nice". I'm sure she doesn't want to leave either, but I am really stuborn and dont think I can say sorry to her.

Please help me.....
Thu 05/09/02 at 12:46
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"TheShiznit.co.uk"
Posts: 6,592
Mr Ripper wrote:
> pff
>
> It would never even enter your head that she hit YOU because of
> something you did, or something YOU said. No, you'll just walk.

So hitting them back for something you did is okay? Man, I'm finding it harder and harder to write all this down because there's so many things I wanna say in this thread, most of which I can't due to the swear filter.

If your lass hits you, tell her to get bent and go and lock yourself in your bedroom, blank her for an hour, ignore her shouting and yelling. Maybe don't walk out completely on just the one occasion, but for **** sake, hitting back just isn't the answer.

It's a shame you can't see that, or see the possibility that you may actually be wrong on this occasion. Hard to believe, isn't it?
Thu 05/09/02 at 12:46
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"Infantalised Forums"
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Mr Ripper wrote:
> pff
>
> It would never even enter your head that she hit YOU because of
> something you did, or something YOU said. No, you'll just walk. And
> when it happens again, in another relationship? Pah, stupid women
> don't know what they're losing right? So many of them just lash out.

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No, strangely it wouldn't. Because normal people, well-balanced people don't resort to violence to get a point across.
That is the last resort of someone that lacks intelligence enough to verbalise their angry.
And it someone hit me for any reason, I'd leave.
Because I'm not a mug.


> Because it can't be your fault can it? You can't possibly have
> anything to learn from it, anything to apologise for can you?
>
--

And that Ripper, is the exact mentality I was talking about earlier when I mentioned wife-beaters in vests standing over their partener shouting "You see what you made me do?"

If you're too stupid to see you are in an abusive relationship then that's cool, it's none of my business.
But what you can't do is critcise someone that has never hit a woman, or been hit by a woman.

If someone offends/upsets/angers you, you discuss. Maybe you shout.
What you don't do is lash out.
Moron behaviour and you cannot justify it under any circumstance (your purile "what if you're bound and taped" effort not withstanding).

So go on, give me a scenario where you can justify either yourself or a partner resorting to violence instead of being rational.
Thu 05/09/02 at 12:40
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"Evenstar"
Posts: 336
you can forgive but you cant forget. I think in a relationship you know the difference between a beater and a mistake that you can learn from.

Yes "Mr. Ripper" and I had a fight, but we appologised and we have now learned from our mistakes. I would never say he is a women beater and I hope he would never say I'm a man beater.

You can forgive and we have. But we will never forget that night and that is good because I'm sure neither of us want a re-occurance of that. We have learnt from our mistake and love each other.
Thu 05/09/02 at 12:39
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
pff

It would never even enter your head that she hit YOU because of something you did, or something YOU said. No, you'll just walk. And when it happens again, in another relationship? Pah, stupid women don't know what they're losing right? So many of them just lash out.

Because it can't be your fault can it? You can't possibly have anything to learn from it, anything to apologise for can you?

No, all you have to do is walk.

Absolutely cowardly.
Thu 05/09/02 at 12:37
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"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Listen Obi-Wan, if it reaches the point where your partner hits you?

Walk.
Because it's never just the once, and if you think staying with someone that resorts to violence in whatever circumstance is ok because it's a "perfect love", then that person really *really* needs to experience a loving, caring relationship where (and here's a wacky concept), hitting your "loved one" is never ever part of the equation.

Good luck mate, hope it works out for you.
Thu 05/09/02 at 12:34
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
Goatboy wrote:
> If your woman decides to hit you, then you walk.
> And if you think "Oh it's just the once" then you're more of
> a fool than you like to paint others.

Who is more the fool?

He who tries to learn from the past, or he who ignores it in the hope it will go away?
Thu 05/09/02 at 12:32
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"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
A few scuffles?

If you mean physical then that's not the perfect relationship.
I have never come to any kind of touching, even in the most heated of rows.

If your woman decides to hit you, then you walk.
And if you think "Oh it's just the once" then you're more of a fool than you like to paint others.
Thu 05/09/02 at 12:31
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
Mr.Snuggly wrote:
> So hitting back makes you a winner? It's not quitting dude, it's
> walking away from a situation that's only gonna get worse. If your
> lady starts hitting you, the last thing you wanna do is send her the
> message "if you hit me, I hit back" because that's only
> gonna lead to bad things, whether you realise it now or not.

don't be so deliberately moronic.

Hitting back isn't what makes you a winner, it's not giving up on something just because it's having a problem. Sure, if there is continued abuse, and all you end up doing is clutching each others throats, by all means get out.

But jumping ship at the first sign of trouble is just proof that you never cared enough in the first place.
Thu 05/09/02 at 12:29
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
This is ridiculous.

Imagine being in the perfect relationship. There are a few scuffles, a few arguments, but any and every good relationship has them.

You love this person with all your heart, and they love you just as much.

But one day there is a misunderstanding, and this one time, she strikes you.

You decide "hey, i'm not taking abuse", and wave goodbye to perfect relationship. I instead go on, using the incident to increase each others understanding, and rebuild the perfect relationship. I make myself happy again, where you would throw away what might have been the best thing that ever happened to you.

That's just cowardice.
Thu 05/09/02 at 12:25
Regular
"TheShiznit.co.uk"
Posts: 6,592
Mr Ripper wrote:
> Mr.Snuggly wrote:
> If your bird's beating on you, you don't hit back, you pack your
> bags
> and you leave. Retaliating can only make things worse. If a lady
> started beating on me, the message I'd send her wouldn't be
> "that's what you get", it would be "you stepped over
> the line, have a nice life".
>
> quitters never win.

So hitting back makes you a winner? It's not quitting dude, it's walking away from a situation that's only gonna get worse. If your lady starts hitting you, the last thing you wanna do is send her the message "if you hit me, I hit back" because that's only gonna lead to bad things, whether you realise it now or not.

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