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"Massive fight last night"

I am in such a bad way. I had a massive fight with my girlfriend last night. We have been together for over a year and I love her dearly, but last night we had the worst fight ever. We were even physical with each other and I would never usually hit a woman. In the end I told her I wanted her to be out of my house tomorrow - because she lives with me. I slept in another room last night and this morning we didn't say a word to each other. We dodged each other round the house and went to work our seperate ways.

I dont know what to say to her when/if I see her when I get back from work. Deep down I dont want her to go as I love her and we have fun together, but we have been arguing loads and I have been finding myself looking at other women, thinking "she looks nice". I'm sure she doesn't want to leave either, but I am really stuborn and dont think I can say sorry to her.

Please help me.....

Yup.

Anyone played "Mafia"? That looks bloody good, and I've been immersed in Warcraft III and Morrowind of late, so some old-time Gangster action with tommy-guns and Irish Coppas looks like a blast

you are all forgetting that Mr. Ripper never actually hit anyone. He was actually talking in the "self defense" context when he said that statement about being tied up and that he would hit her to stop her hitting him.

He is NOT a woman beater, and if I thought he was then I certainly wouldn't be with him now.

The point is - it is wrong to hit either sex, unless in self defence to protect yourself and probably her/him.

Hmm. I do still believe self defence is acceptable. But it has to be absolutely minimal, or it ceases to be self defence.
When locking yourself away from her while things cool down is an option, then by all means, i guess it's the best way.

But while you may criticise Mr Ripper's 'one arm and a mad woman' example may seem purile, i think it does make one essential point - there are circumstance, although extreme, where you *would* use physical force against a woman.

So really, all we're discussing, at least with respect to that issue, is at which point we consider it okay to do it.



Mr Ripper wrote:
> He who tries to learn from the past, or he who ignores it in the hope
> it will go away?

Hmm, not sure where i stand on this yet. I agree with the sentiment, but i'm not sure whether it's the person who walks away who ignores his problems, or the person who stays in the hope that it won't happen again.
I guess it'd depend on how likely a repeat performance is.

And replying to it.

Nice avoidance btw.

you look at my posts, and yet you do not actually read them.

I really do wish these forums had an "ignore user" button. That way I wouldn't have to bother sifting through your ignorance. Instead, I'll just avoid it.

It's hard to argue properly when your name is Mr Snuggly.

I do like these little chats.

Mr Ripper wrote:
Goatboy, I almost hope that you throw away the best relationship you
> ever have on a whim because you're too weak to work it through. But
> I'm not that vindictive.
>
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What are you not understanding in my words here mate?
The best relationship you ever have is not with someone that resorts to physical violence.

But it's not even that I'm talking about, I'm calling you on your "If you hurt me you only hurt yourself" comment.
That is vindictive.
"If you hurt me I remove myself from that situation" is the intelligent thing to do.

Even in my nastiest rows with ex's, however up close and personal things have got, it has never reached the point of assualt.
There is nothing to do with being "weak" Ripper, and if the best you can manage is trite name calling then you're right, it's best not to continue this discussion.

Good job I'm not a woman eh? Wouldn't want to upset you.
Wouldn't want to make you angry enough to strike me because "It would never even enter your head that she (he) hit YOU because of something you did, or something YOU said"

I'm still shaking my head over that moronic comment.
"You see what you made me do? You see how angry you make me?"
The excuse of a bully.

I'm not going to bother talking about this any more, it's like talking to a brick wall.

I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE UP MY RELATIONSHIP JUST BECAUSE IT WENT SOUR IN ONE MOMENT OF STUPIDITY.

You may do, in my mind that just makes you weak, and shallow.

I have faith that people make mistakes. You believe that if someone hits you, they are a raving loon.

Obviously we are fundamentally different, and while I hold little hope for us as a species, I'm still more than willing to accept the faults of individuals.

And Snuggly, do shut up you daft muppet - I have never EVER struck a woman, and I don't harbour any desire to. You're talking out of context, and trying to twist what I'm saying a la Spamming Troll, and I've lost any respect for you.

Goatboy, I almost hope that you throw away the best relationship you ever have on a whim because you're too weak to work it through. But I'm not that vindictive.

You people sicken me.

If you have done something to provoke your girlfriend into hitting you (and I imagine it must be something up there with cheating on her*) then your "perfect" relationship must be a little shaky.

*if it's not then your girlfriend is probably hitting you for little reason and so it's not a perfect relationship)