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When sony anounced that they were releasing the PS2 I thought that it would be the best thing since the SNES and could not wait to get one. But now that that it's here it seems to be quality starved and most of the games that I have played have poor gameplay or are sequels to popular PS1 games. Which is a good idea in theory but in reality these games are more or less the same but with improved graphics eg Tekken Tag, Ridge Racer and GT3. I just want to know if it realy is that bad, your opinions please.
Only non biased gamers post. (No phrases like PS2 is great because nintendo/microsoft suck)
Only non biased gamers post. (No phrases like PS2 is great because nintendo/microsoft suck)
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NiGHTS! wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> Have you played ZOE
Mecha fighter... no better
> than Virtual ON
That's opinion based, but ZOE defintely has a better plot. More emotional, as well.
, StarFighter,
>On other consoles
err.....no it's not, actually. It's coming out on X-Box, but not for nearly another year.
Crazy
> Taxi
I have the sequal on my DC
Maybe, but I've heard the PS2 version is better than the DC versions.
UT, Quake 3
Errrr....
> offline only! What is the point!
It's still a wicked multiplayer game, and has a great single player mode as well, I expect.
MGS2 Demo??
Demo? What's the
> point? Fact is MGS2 will be one of the best games ever. BUT, only a
> dozen excellent games within about 2 years of release ain't that
> good! Remember the PS2 came out in march 2000 in japan... which
> means development times of about 2years 8months by the time MGS2
> comes out... there should be several games in the top quality margin
> (ie Zelda level). But there aren't. that's all u need to
> know.
Yeah, there are already about 12 great games released, and before MGS2 there'll be Smackdown 3, Devil May Cry (I think,) The Getaway, Max Payne (which will supposedly be better than the PC version) and many more.
And Zelda bored me! Many of the PS2's games are better than Zelda in my opinion, as I didn't like it.
Als, sequels are
> good as long as they're better
> than the previous one-which MGS2 and
> GT3 are.
GT3 is not
> a sequal. It was to be called GT2000, and then GT3 would be made
> later which would be a true sequal (like Virtua Stricker 2 version2,
> or PSO version 2). However, Sony DEMANDED that the game be called
> GT3. Even though the producer says himself that it was just an
> update and not a true sequal!
It's still the best driving game out there by far.
> Ant wrote:
> Have you played ZOE
Mecha fighter... no better
> than Virtual ON
That's opinion based, but ZOE defintely has a better plot. More emotional, as well.
, StarFighter,
>On other consoles
err.....no it's not, actually. It's coming out on X-Box, but not for nearly another year.
Crazy
> Taxi
I have the sequal on my DC
Maybe, but I've heard the PS2 version is better than the DC versions.
UT, Quake 3
Errrr....
> offline only! What is the point!
It's still a wicked multiplayer game, and has a great single player mode as well, I expect.
MGS2 Demo??
Demo? What's the
> point? Fact is MGS2 will be one of the best games ever. BUT, only a
> dozen excellent games within about 2 years of release ain't that
> good! Remember the PS2 came out in march 2000 in japan... which
> means development times of about 2years 8months by the time MGS2
> comes out... there should be several games in the top quality margin
> (ie Zelda level). But there aren't. that's all u need to
> know.
Yeah, there are already about 12 great games released, and before MGS2 there'll be Smackdown 3, Devil May Cry (I think,) The Getaway, Max Payne (which will supposedly be better than the PC version) and many more.
And Zelda bored me! Many of the PS2's games are better than Zelda in my opinion, as I didn't like it.
Als, sequels are
> good as long as they're better
> than the previous one-which MGS2 and
> GT3 are.
GT3 is not
> a sequal. It was to be called GT2000, and then GT3 would be made
> later which would be a true sequal (like Virtua Stricker 2 version2,
> or PSO version 2). However, Sony DEMANDED that the game be called
> GT3. Even though the producer says himself that it was just an
> update and not a true sequal!
It's still the best driving game out there by far.
yeah too right man how exactly do they know the gamecube is So easy to program for and has brilliant games, oh wait a minute it's not out for a long long long time so they can continue to blab until the actual facts prove them wrong!!
Anyone watch Cybernet man they gave tips on 1 dreamcast game and excitebike and EVERYTHING else was PS1 and PS2, that jak and daxter's stunning not to mention Alone in the dark 4 muhahahaha.
did you notice that "car of the future" it may be able to turn your kettle on fom the other side of the world but it aint got anything to block out the low winter sun has it now Duh !!!
Anyone watch Cybernet man they gave tips on 1 dreamcast game and excitebike and EVERYTHING else was PS1 and PS2, that jak and daxter's stunning not to mention Alone in the dark 4 muhahahaha.
did you notice that "car of the future" it may be able to turn your kettle on fom the other side of the world but it aint got anything to block out the low winter sun has it now Duh !!!
Wishbone wrote:
> I'm glad I didn't fall for all that 'emotion engine' twaddle. PS2 is
> a solid 128 bit machine and nothin' else. It's on par with
> Dreamcast.
128bit means nothing. You know nothing. Please, if you know nothing, say nothing in future.
> I'm glad I didn't fall for all that 'emotion engine' twaddle. PS2 is
> a solid 128 bit machine and nothin' else. It's on par with
> Dreamcast.
128bit means nothing. You know nothing. Please, if you know nothing, say nothing in future.
Here we go with the old "GC has better games" bullcrap. How can you possibly know that?
As for flexibillity, well all the settings are pre-defined to the most commonly used on the GC, so the best cannot be got out of the hardware. The PS2 is totally flexible which is partly the reason why games take longer.
The PS2 isn't hard to develop for, just different. Once again this is another Ninty being brainwashed with things he doesn't understand. The PS2 has a different architecture so it is better at what it's supposed to do IE 3D games. The GC is more suited to word processors (although not as bad as the Xbox) and so is familliar to developers. Most PS2 developers said initially it was difficult getting their heads round it, but now they're much better. Yes, the GC is more powerful (in some areas) but the PS2 physically better at running 3D games because it's designed to.
As for flexibillity, well all the settings are pre-defined to the most commonly used on the GC, so the best cannot be got out of the hardware. The PS2 is totally flexible which is partly the reason why games take longer.
The PS2 isn't hard to develop for, just different. Once again this is another Ninty being brainwashed with things he doesn't understand. The PS2 has a different architecture so it is better at what it's supposed to do IE 3D games. The GC is more suited to word processors (although not as bad as the Xbox) and so is familliar to developers. Most PS2 developers said initially it was difficult getting their heads round it, but now they're much better. Yes, the GC is more powerful (in some areas) but the PS2 physically better at running 3D games because it's designed to.
I'm glad I didn't fall for all that 'emotion engine' twaddle. PS2 is a solid 128 bit machine and nothin' else. It's on par with Dreamcast.
TheBest_2k1 wrote:
> if its easy to program for, we get lots of good games!
Not really, if it has a large user base then it'll get the games. My Texas Instruments calculator is very easy to program for thanks to its BASIC program - that doesn't mean Square are going to announce that its shipping all the Final Fantasy games in the future exclusively for Texas Instruments calculators.
> if its easy to program for, we get lots of good games!
Not really, if it has a large user base then it'll get the games. My Texas Instruments calculator is very easy to program for thanks to its BASIC program - that doesn't mean Square are going to announce that its shipping all the Final Fantasy games in the future exclusively for Texas Instruments calculators.
So the PS2 is Miraculous while the GC isn't flexible?
The PS2 is a miraculous mess up.
It's really awkward nature means it's not half as flexible as something easy to program for.
Devellopers have to concentrate their time and resources coping with the nonsense hardware instead of making good games.
And while the Gamecubes hardware might not be out of the ordinary, it's more powerful than the PS2 (I don't care what an obsecure site Bonus found says), devellopers can use it more easily and Nintendo themselves make games that Sony can only dream of.
Basically, do you choose the "amazing hardware" PS2 or "amazing games" Gamecube.
Seeing as the whole point of a consoles hardware is to make games, I think that the PS2's must be more than a little flawed!
The PS2 is a miraculous mess up.
It's really awkward nature means it's not half as flexible as something easy to program for.
Devellopers have to concentrate their time and resources coping with the nonsense hardware instead of making good games.
And while the Gamecubes hardware might not be out of the ordinary, it's more powerful than the PS2 (I don't care what an obsecure site Bonus found says), devellopers can use it more easily and Nintendo themselves make games that Sony can only dream of.
Basically, do you choose the "amazing hardware" PS2 or "amazing games" Gamecube.
Seeing as the whole point of a consoles hardware is to make games, I think that the PS2's must be more than a little flawed!
NiGHTS! wrote:
> No, my point was it's almost 3 years since the consol's release... and the
> best u have is a demo??? (well, one of the best)
Who's had it for 3 years??? It was launched in Japan in March 2000 - that's 17 months - not even 2 years, let alone 3!
> No, my point was it's almost 3 years since the consol's release... and the
> best u have is a demo??? (well, one of the best)
Who's had it for 3 years??? It was launched in Japan in March 2000 - that's 17 months - not even 2 years, let alone 3!
Skies of Arcadia rules.
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