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Tue 25/01/05 at 17:20
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"The South Will Rise"
Posts: 227
I was reading in New Statesman Magazine... The recon that nearly 1/3 of the White British Population in the next General Election will vote either BNP or UKIP, as they believe that New Labour have given very little to the British People... instead more money goes to imigrants. Even today those 4 terrorists are being allowed back into the UK.. SCREW THAT... should have left them at Cuba. I'm not a facist, but I can see their point about controlling imigration, you have not got the slightest clue who the hell the people are coming in; they might bomb a school (like what happened in Russia), or commit acts of evil things against the British citizens.
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Tue 15/02/05 at 14:03
Regular
"Wanking Mong"
Posts: 4,884
This;

[URL]http://redwing.hutman.net/%7Emreed/warriorshtm/ferouscranus.htm[/URL]

Is the perfect description of Kevstar.


Actually, pretty much everyone who's ever been on a webboard falls into one category or other of this site.
Tue 15/02/05 at 13:36
Posts: 15,443
Not sure about immigrants, but there certainly are too many words around here. Look at them, they're flooding the place!
Tue 15/02/05 at 11:47
Regular
"gsybe you!"
Posts: 18,825
'There are too many immigrants!'
'Are there? Show me proof either way'
'Here you are, the tabloids saved us!'
'Riiiiighhht'

Fin.
Tue 15/02/05 at 11:37
Regular
"Wanking Mong"
Posts: 4,884
kevstar wrote:

> [URL]http://democraticdeficit.org.uk/immigration_main.html[/URL]

Yes? And? You've posted a link to a pro-tory and anti-Blair lobbying website. Your point being? Are you trying to say that, because their views agree with yours, they MUST be objective?
>
>
>
> and
> that we therefore need an honest debate about it rather than
> watching
> the dimwitted words painstakingly typed by a fat-fingered moron from
> the safety of his wretched prole-hole?


Still avoiding answering about the honest debate? Deary me, your cowardice is almost as excessive as your protests about your virility.


> Come off it Light, the storys in the papers of illegal immigrants
> building £5m empires through drugs, prostitution and so on. Did
> you read the news of the world on Sunday? This is not spin, they
> actually caught him via a reporter. This isn't the only case theres
> hundreds of storys all going on about the same sort of thing. And why
> is that, the only thing I can think of is that there is abuses of the
> system.

Ahh, I see; you're getting your "facts" from stories in the papers! You're actually quoting me the News of the World (the paper that printed a mans picture, named him as a paedo, then the following week had to apologise for printing the wrong picture) as a legitimate source? Bwahahahahahaaaa! I'm amazed you managed to stop gawping at whichever talentless muppet had her chebs on display to a telescopic lense long enough to read their "Immigrants are EVIL!" nonsense.

Still, I now have it confirmed; your "concerns" are based solely on what you've been told to think by The Sun and the News of the World. And as such, are laughable. And baseless.


> I said in earlier posts that It was not neccessary the immigrants
> fault, but rather the system itself which allows illegal immigrants
> to do this.

...the system that you admit you don't actually know about? Tell me, how can you know what the problem is when you don't actually know what the system is?

>
>
> Hold on, the only purpose I done this was because it was you who
> wanted to know what problems they were, so I, like any other person
> listed the problems which I thought were wrong, thats not listing the
> ones I liked.

Really? So why did you spend about 3 days trying to claim that the report you linked to backed your story up entirely, yet at the same time you mindlessly "muuhh"-ed your way through an amusing claim that the report was simultaneously untrustworthy when it came to the facts you didn't like? Sounds very much to me like you were doing exactly that; listing the ones you liked.


> No, I don't believe that for one momemt, I do believe that every
> system is open to abuse as you say. However the immigration system I
> feel is the one which could cost the most to sort out, one reason for
> this, the immigration system cover all our services in one, so thats
> one threat, and the threat of people coming in illegally which can
> only do more damage to our services.

You feel it'd cost the most? On what basis? And if it is gonna cost the most, how are we going to pay for it? They cover all our services in one? Don't talk brainsmeg; you keep saying "they're stretching our services!" and then providing NO evidence in support of that, whereas I have thus far deluged you with info stating that immigrants are not the problem with services.

And you're, once again, trying to link Illegal immigrants with Economic immigrants. They're not the same thing, as you should know by now.



> Maybee thats because i'm worried, I can't see it not happening, why
> wouldn't it? Your going off the evidence with figures that are so
> inacurate it's not only impossible, but stupid to go off as there
> missing figures which should be included.


Look, just because the limit of your tiny little rat-boy imagination is exactly what the Sun ragepisses into your brain every day, that doesn't mean that it's anyones problem but yours. I'm going off figures that...well, you're saying they're innacurate. How do you know? On what basis are they innaccurate? And as for the missing figures...well, had you anything closely resembling an IQ above absolute zero, you might have noticed that I've been saying, from the very start, that we need debate about it. I've NOT been saying "there definitely isn't a problem". I've been trying to get you to justify your firm belief that there is, and it's the fault of foreigners. Something you've failed to do so.

Also, how are we to get the figures when you're so opposed to an open debate about immigration?
>
> Plus, you'll notice how EVERYONE in this thread is calling you a
> racist. Do you see Kev? Or are you getting distracted by todays
> edition of Trisha?
>
> Left wingers.

Ahh, I see; so whenever anyone points out what a vacuous cretin you are, you dismiss them as "left wingers". Are these the same left wingers you fully agreed with about the Iraq war kevstar? Or are these different left wingers?

I've not seen such a lack of self awareness since Belldandy left...
>
> And you haven't answered the question, my increasingly frightened
> pleb-plaything; do you accept the need for an open and honest debate
> about immigration.
>
>
> Yes I would, as long as it means we agree to get all the
> figures on people coming in. Thats what my main problem is, because
> we don't have theese figures it's impossible if it's working or not.

Actually, we do. The problem is that they're then selectively reported by the Tories, the Sun, Kilroy...y'know; all your heroes.

Incidentally, as you seem to be the only Tory in Gateshead, does that make you an endangered species?

> No, one reason, my insults are actually funny. As I said, I only
> started because it was you who tried to insulted me first.

I didn't just try dear boy; I succeeded. Admirably. Although admittedly, I didn't make you look as much of a moron as you yourself do. And your insults were funny for one reason; they made you look like a squalling little human jizzjar who was desperate for people to think he was the epitome of laddishness. Have a glance down the thread. Go on. I'll wait for you...

Finished? See just how many people are laughing at you kevstar? How many people are shaking their heads in disbelief at just what a pathetic creature you are? It's quite impressive isn't it? Everyone thinks that you're a loser, that your views are racist, and that your personal hygiene is worse than that of a leprous wolfcock. Okay...maybe it's just me who thinks the latter, but you get the idea.
Tue 15/02/05 at 10:26
Regular
"Don't let me down"
Posts: 626
Light wrote:
> kevstar wrote:
>
> The points I showed there are all flaws in the system, everyone of
> them. It wasn't just the odd few was it? no. With theese flaws in
> mind, it is possible to get a indication to where some of the
> problems are.
>
> So now you're interested in finding out what the problems are? Does
> that mean you're finally admitting that you don't actually have a
> clue what the system is, and what might be going wrong with it,



[URL]http://democraticdeficit.org.uk/immigration_main.html[/URL]



and
> that we therefore need an honest debate about it rather than watching
> the dimwitted words painstakingly typed by a fat-fingered moron from
> the safety of his wretched prole-hole?
>
>
>
>
> The evidence is obvious, everyone knows there's people abusing the
> system, no one knows how many true enough. However, just the fact
> that they know there is people abusing the system is evidence
> enough,
> would you not agree. Would you also not agree with the fact if they
> don't have accurate figures on the ammount coming in, then that too
> is a problem, and why not if not? Just the fact that the system is
> open to abuse indicates a problem, so yeahh, I would say there is
> defenatly a problem with immigration.
>
> So...how do they KNOW that the system is being abused? I mean, I'm
> not doubting that it is.

Come off it Light, the storys in the papers of illegal immigrants building £5m empires through drugs, prostitution and so on. Did you read the news of the world on Sunday? This is not spin, they actually caught him via a reporter. This isn't the only case theres hundreds of storys all going on about the same sort of thing. And why is that, the only thing I can think of is that there is abuses of the system.

I'm just intrigued to know how you KNOW that
> it's immigrants who are the worst problem. Would you like to explain
> that to me?

I said in earlier posts that It was not neccessary the immigrants fault, but rather the system itself which allows illegal immigrants to do this.
>
> Are the lack of figures a problem? Yes. Know why? Cos of squalid
> little racists like you selectively picking out figures to support
> your "send 'em back where they came from" dirge (y'know;
> like you did with the report you linked to...), and cos of
> hand-wringing smiley faced brainwrongs doing exactly the same but
> with the opposite intention. There are figures out there. The problem
> is finding someone who provides them objectively and doesn't just
> list the ones he likes. Like you do.


Hold on, the only purpose I done this was because it was you who wanted to know what problems they were, so I, like any other person listed the problems which I thought were wrong, thats not listing the ones I liked.
>
> Incidentally, name me one single public service that isn't open to
> abuse. Cos it's funny that you're not wailing as loud about them. Or
> are you gonna try and say that only foreigners abuse it?

No, I don't believe that for one momemt, I do believe that every system is open to abuse as you say. However the immigration system I feel is the one which could cost the most to sort out, one reason for this, the immigration system cover all our services in one, so thats one threat, and the threat of people coming in illegally which can only do more damage to our services.
>
>
> People like me who have endured accusations of bigotry from light
> and
> others can certainly breathe a sigh of relief about now being able
> to
> write about the downsides of excessive immigration without any but
> the most dimwitted of left-wingers calling me racist, yes that you
> light.
>
> Mm, well unfortunately you're not writing about the downsides, are
> you? You're saying "This will happen" and then not
> providing any evidence beyond "I say it will happen".

Maybee thats because i'm worried, I can't see it not happening, why wouldn't it? Your going off the evidence with figures that are so inacurate it's not only impossible, but stupid to go off as there missing figures which should be included.
>
> Plus, you'll notice how EVERYONE in this thread is calling you a
> racist. Do you see Kev? Or are you getting distracted by todays
> edition of Trisha?

Left wingers.
>
> And you haven't answered the question, my increasingly frightened
> pleb-plaything; do you accept the need for an open and honest debate
> about immigration.


Yes I would, as long as it means we agree to get all the figures on people coming in. Thats what my main problem is, because we don't have theese figures it's impossible if it's working or not.
>
>
>
>
> Maybee because I was to busy insulting your Mrs.
>
> Could be. But as I went on to insult both her and you in a far
> funnier manner and still managed to answer your tawdry little
> arguments, that would seem to prove further still that I'm better
> than you in every way, doesn't it?

No, one reason, my insults are actually funny. As I said, I only started because it was you who tried to insulted me first.
Tue 15/02/05 at 10:10
Regular
"Lisan al-Gaib"
Posts: 7,093
cweek2000 wrote:
> Spam.

;)
Tue 15/02/05 at 10:08
Regular
"In Soviet Russia..."
Posts: 3,934
Light wrote:
> kevstar wrote:
>
> Naa not really, is that what you think, well you think a lot of
> things don't you, mainly daydreams, but still.
>
>
> Yeah, it is. Know why? Cos you posted something saying how angry you
> were that I'd insulted your family. Your chav family. Y'know; the
> ones who have to make excuses about you to explain away your utter
> failure in life.
>
> Keep up Kevstar, and try and remember what it is you've actually
> said.
>
>
> Your right I don't have a girlfriend, but I do have a fiance which I
> will be marrying in August this year, nice try, but don't bother.
>
>
> 2 more ratpeople getting spliced at the Registry office then? How
> romantic...
>
> And what source is that then?
>
> I have to spell it out then? Your lack of sex. Oh, I know you've got
> a fiancee. I meant your lack of sex with something that doesn't
> resemble a bovine Keith Richards.
>
> No because unlike you, i'm not stupid enough to show myself in pants
> to people I don't know you twit, yes light that gives you a lot of
> nerve but I don't know what your point is though, I mean what are
> you
> trying to say. I have played strip poker when I was 19 in front of
> my
> mates whilst drunk and later had group sex, have you got the nerve
> to
> do that?
>
>
> Heh. I think Gerrid has it all in a nutshell about this little
> paragraph. My word...boasting of your virility to strangers on a
> website. Is it possible to be any more tragic?
>
> Group sex in Gateshead? So you were a glory hole then?
>
> Thats actually quite good, however you know it's cos your scared of
> bieng wrong, have you ever heard of that word before light, wrong.
>
>
> Hmm...yes, I do believe I have. It's something that happens to
> mentally deformed racists like you isn't it?
>
> Hey, you don't need to be a good speller to get a point across do
> you
> light. Just like you don't need to a big sausage to make it taste
> nice do
> you Light?
>
>
> Are you saying you've got a small dick?
>
> Go for it, because your insults so far have been so weak, i've
> actually sat there laughing at them. I mean come on, getting your
> wife to post something just shows how good you are at insults,
> doesn't it.
>
>
> ~sigh~ I made that up dimwit; it was me posting, and I did so
> pretending to be my good lady. And I did so because I'm wittier than
> you.
>
> My God, just how appallingly dunder-headed are you? When Orwell wrote
> "The proles are animals", he was talking about you.

And the rest of us shall continue to sit here and listen to this pleasant argument with enjoyment. Amen.
Tue 15/02/05 at 09:47
Regular
"Wanking Mong"
Posts: 4,884
kevstar wrote:

> Naa not really, is that what you think, well you think a lot of
> things don't you, mainly daydreams, but still.
>

Yeah, it is. Know why? Cos you posted something saying how angry you were that I'd insulted your family. Your chav family. Y'know; the ones who have to make excuses about you to explain away your utter failure in life.

Keep up Kevstar, and try and remember what it is you've actually said.


> Your right I don't have a girlfriend, but I do have a fiance which I
> will be marrying in August this year, nice try, but don't bother.
>

2 more ratpeople getting spliced at the Registry office then? How romantic...

> And what source is that then?

I have to spell it out then? Your lack of sex. Oh, I know you've got a fiancee. I meant your lack of sex with something that doesn't resemble a bovine Keith Richards.

> No because unlike you, i'm not stupid enough to show myself in pants
> to people I don't know you twit, yes light that gives you a lot of
> nerve but I don't know what your point is though, I mean what are you
> trying to say. I have played strip poker when I was 19 in front of my
> mates whilst drunk and later had group sex, have you got the nerve to
> do that?
>

Heh. I think Gerrid has it all in a nutshell about this little paragraph. My word...boasting of your virility to strangers on a website. Is it possible to be any more tragic?

Group sex in Gateshead? So you were a glory hole then?

> Thats actually quite good, however you know it's cos your scared of
> bieng wrong, have you ever heard of that word before light, wrong.
>

Hmm...yes, I do believe I have. It's something that happens to mentally deformed racists like you isn't it?

> Hey, you don't need to be a good speller to get a point across do you
> light. Just like you don't need to a big sausage to make it taste
> nice do
> you Light?
>

Are you saying you've got a small dick?

> Go for it, because your insults so far have been so weak, i've
> actually sat there laughing at them. I mean come on, getting your
> wife to post something just shows how good you are at insults,
> doesn't it.


~sigh~ I made that up dimwit; it was me posting, and I did so pretending to be my good lady. And I did so because I'm wittier than you.

My God, just how appallingly dunder-headed are you? When Orwell wrote "The proles are animals", he was talking about you.
Tue 15/02/05 at 09:35
Regular
"Wanking Mong"
Posts: 4,884
kevstar wrote:

> The points I showed there are all flaws in the system, everyone of
> them. It wasn't just the odd few was it? no. With theese flaws in
> mind, it is possible to get a indication to where some of the
> problems are.

So now you're interested in finding out what the problems are? Does that mean you're finally admitting that you don't actually have a clue what the system is, and what might be going wrong with it, and that we therefore need an honest debate about it rather than watching the dimwitted words painstakingly typed by a fat-fingered moron from the safety of his wretched prole-hole?


>

> The evidence is obvious, everyone knows there's people abusing the
> system, no one knows how many true enough. However, just the fact
> that they know there is people abusing the system is evidence enough,
> would you not agree. Would you also not agree with the fact if they
> don't have accurate figures on the ammount coming in, then that too
> is a problem, and why not if not? Just the fact that the system is
> open to abuse indicates a problem, so yeahh, I would say there is
> defenatly a problem with immigration.

So...how do they KNOW that the system is being abused? I mean, I'm not doubting that it is. I'm just intrigued to know how you KNOW that it's immigrants who are the worst problem. Would you like to explain that to me?

Are the lack of figures a problem? Yes. Know why? Cos of squalid little racists like you selectively picking out figures to support your "send 'em back where they came from" dirge (y'know; like you did with the report you linked to...), and cos of hand-wringing smiley faced brainwrongs doing exactly the same but with the opposite intention. There are figures out there. The problem is finding someone who provides them objectively and doesn't just list the ones he likes. Like you do.

Incidentally, name me one single public service that isn't open to abuse. Cos it's funny that you're not wailing as loud about them. Or are you gonna try and say that only foreigners abuse it?


> People like me who have endured accusations of bigotry from light and
> others can certainly breathe a sigh of relief about now being able to
> write about the downsides of excessive immigration without any but
> the most dimwitted of left-wingers calling me racist, yes that you
> light.

Mm, well unfortunately you're not writing about the downsides, are you? You're saying "This will happen" and then not providing any evidence beyond "I say it will happen".

Plus, you'll notice how EVERYONE in this thread is calling you a racist. Do you see Kev? Or are you getting distracted by todays edition of Trisha?

And you haven't answered the question, my increasingly frightened pleb-plaything; do you accept the need for an open and honest debate about immigration.




> Maybee because I was to busy insulting your Mrs.

Could be. But as I went on to insult both her and you in a far funnier manner and still managed to answer your tawdry little arguments, that would seem to prove further still that I'm better than you in every way, doesn't it?
Mon 14/02/05 at 11:55
Regular
Posts: 14,117
This has degenerated into a very amusing thread.

Well done, and keep up the good work.
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