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What sort of a society do we live in, really. 70,000, that's seventy thousand people have died. And what does our government offer them?
One. Million. Pounds.
Later they upped that to a 'whopping' £15 million, but in my opinion that's because they were shamed into it. Then there's the US who offer a 'collossal' £35 million. What really rubs it in though is Jack Straw and George Bush standing there and giving excuses why they can't give more. I really believe the western world has become completely morally bankrupt.
Bush : "Last year 40% of all aid given in the world was given by the US."
Who gives a crap who gave what when, you t***pot, do you really have a clue what the real world is about?? For gods sake, how much money have both nations plowed into that ridiculous war? I don't hear any complaints about budgets when that subject is raised. Not to mention the human loss of life.
It makes you ashamed to be British and affiliated with what is turning out to be an Empire of bullies, ignorant knuckledraggers and yes men. This New Year I'm hoping for a Nuclear Holocaust.
Rant Over. Time for the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.
One. Million. Pounds.
Later they upped that to a 'whopping' £15 million, but in my opinion that's because they were shamed into it. Then there's the US who offer a 'collossal' £35 million. What really rubs it in though is Jack Straw and George Bush standing there and giving excuses why they can't give more. I really believe the western world has become completely morally bankrupt.
Bush : "Last year 40% of all aid given in the world was given by the US."
Who gives a crap who gave what when, you t***pot, do you really have a clue what the real world is about?? For gods sake, how much money have both nations plowed into that ridiculous war? I don't hear any complaints about budgets when that subject is raised. Not to mention the human loss of life.
It makes you ashamed to be British and affiliated with what is turning out to be an Empire of bullies, ignorant knuckledraggers and yes men. This New Year I'm hoping for a Nuclear Holocaust.
Rant Over. Time for the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.
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Alot of players are giving too.
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On another note, Germany = disgrace. It's suprising that more countries apart from us have a "dislike" of them, when all they can do is give £5mil from the government and £1-2mil from the public and businesses. They're rich compared to us yet they offer about 1/20 of what we do.
I would just about consider myself jingoistic (in no way racist or fascist), but it really does make me proud of our country when the public has raised about £30-50mil all ready.
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On another note, Germany = disgrace. It's suprising that more countries apart from us have a "dislike" of them, when all they can do is give £5mil from the government and £1-2mil from the public and businesses. They're rich compared to us yet they offer about 1/20 of what we do.
I would just about consider myself jingoistic (in no way racist or fascist), but it really does make me proud of our country when the public has raised about £30-50mil all ready.
munn wrote:
> Forza wrote:
> munn wrote:
> who ahve done nothing wrong by living in teh right country
>
> "the right country"
>
> oh dear oh dear.
>
> Guh, you're even stpider than I thought if you can't work out I'm
> extracting the urine.
It's difficult to tell with you considering your horribly bigoted and obnoxious views.
> Forza wrote:
> munn wrote:
> who ahve done nothing wrong by living in teh right country
>
> "the right country"
>
> oh dear oh dear.
>
> Guh, you're even stpider than I thought if you can't work out I'm
> extracting the urine.
It's difficult to tell with you considering your horribly bigoted and obnoxious views.
Aye, Premiership football clubs all put forwards 50,000 or so and have raised a million, and they're taking donations around the grounds etc.
I think (old news) it's £50million by the government (the most offered in the world so far - actually the way it's reported in the news it's like they're bidding, trying to out do each other and come off better you can tell USA will probably double that)
The UK people have raised £32million so far and still going. Lots of other people donating like Premiership football clubs, Vodafone (£1million) and Jersey Government £500,000 almost everyone.
Could be as much as 140,000 dead
Just read this "Britain had initially pledged just 15 million pounds, but the government came under criticism for its small response as members of the public privately poured more than 20 million pounds into a charity appeal on its first day."
The UK people have raised £32million so far and still going. Lots of other people donating like Premiership football clubs, Vodafone (£1million) and Jersey Government £500,000 almost everyone.
Could be as much as 140,000 dead
Just read this "Britain had initially pledged just 15 million pounds, but the government came under criticism for its small response as members of the public privately poured more than 20 million pounds into a charity appeal on its first day."
I think the word pathetic has lost meaning, but what I find "pathetic" is the thing I heard on the radio last night, about numerous stores and companies like Tesco, etc. They have donated money- good.
The money they have donated (averaged about £500,000 each) is recouped by them in under 90 seconds on average. 40% of that money is profit on average.
Now that is sickening. They can't even bloody offer £5mil pounds, the ones that create £1 billion profit in a year.
HSBC is the worst. £50,000 offered/£1.12 billion profit in a year.
The money they have donated (averaged about £500,000 each) is recouped by them in under 90 seconds on average. 40% of that money is profit on average.
Now that is sickening. They can't even bloody offer £5mil pounds, the ones that create £1 billion profit in a year.
HSBC is the worst. £50,000 offered/£1.12 billion profit in a year.
Light wrote:
> munn wrote:
> I don't get why everyone hates me anyway.
>
> And that is pretty much why people will continue to treat you with
> the absolute contempt you deserve.
I was joking when I said that.
It's too difficult to convery sarcasm in words though.
> What, do you really think that your 18p change from your shopping
> will really make a difference?
> Over 50% of aid is lost or destroyed, so that's just 9p now.
>
> Please; do tell me where you got your figures about 50% of aid being
> destroyed. What happens to it? Where does it go? Do the magical
> fairies take it away?
I read it in a Geography book a few months ago.
I can't remember, I jsut remember it saying "Over 50% of aid is last or destroyed"
> And as for the 18p or even 9p...well, when it costs a few pence to
> give vaccinations against the various diseases that the tsunami hit
> areas have to look forward too, yeah;
I know another thing I take back. 6 children die, and six more are permanently disabled every minute from diseases which would cost just 15p to vaccinate against.
> I think it will make a
> difference. More difference than you're making spending the money
> that your parents give you on computer games and sweets.
I probably give about 20-30p a day to whatever charities they're collecting for at my local newsagents though, I don't know which - I ask the shopkeeper to pick one for me.
I only donate on schooldays though, as, contrary to popular belief, I'm not spoiled,I get money each day for buying my lunch, and on my way home, I buy a drink and give what's left to charity, as I'll just spend it on sweets otherwise, like you said.
I'm not a cold-hearted monster like you think, but, I misunderstood the point of the topic, and argued against what I thought the point was, when in reality, I agree with the point (below).
> munn wrote:
> I don't get why everyone hates me anyway.
>
> And that is pretty much why people will continue to treat you with
> the absolute contempt you deserve.
I was joking when I said that.
It's too difficult to convery sarcasm in words though.
> What, do you really think that your 18p change from your shopping
> will really make a difference?
> Over 50% of aid is lost or destroyed, so that's just 9p now.
>
> Please; do tell me where you got your figures about 50% of aid being
> destroyed. What happens to it? Where does it go? Do the magical
> fairies take it away?
I read it in a Geography book a few months ago.
I can't remember, I jsut remember it saying "Over 50% of aid is last or destroyed"
> And as for the 18p or even 9p...well, when it costs a few pence to
> give vaccinations against the various diseases that the tsunami hit
> areas have to look forward too, yeah;
I know another thing I take back. 6 children die, and six more are permanently disabled every minute from diseases which would cost just 15p to vaccinate against.
> I think it will make a
> difference. More difference than you're making spending the money
> that your parents give you on computer games and sweets.
I probably give about 20-30p a day to whatever charities they're collecting for at my local newsagents though, I don't know which - I ask the shopkeeper to pick one for me.
I only donate on schooldays though, as, contrary to popular belief, I'm not spoiled,I get money each day for buying my lunch, and on my way home, I buy a drink and give what's left to charity, as I'll just spend it on sweets otherwise, like you said.
I'm not a cold-hearted monster like you think, but, I misunderstood the point of the topic, and argued against what I thought the point was, when in reality, I agree with the point (below).
Forza wrote:
> munn wrote:
> who ahve done nothing wrong by living in teh right country
>
> "the right country"
>
> oh dear oh dear.
Guh, you're even stpider than I thought if you can't work out I'm extracting the urine.
> munn wrote:
> who ahve done nothing wrong by living in teh right country
>
> "the right country"
>
> oh dear oh dear.
Guh, you're even stpider than I thought if you can't work out I'm extracting the urine.
Light wrote:
> I
> think the main thrust of the complaint is that we (US and UK) spend
> billions on a pointless war, whilst we spend dick all on a disaster.
That was the main point?
Hmmmm, I totally missed that out.
I've never agreed with the war, and although some good things have come of it (the removal /death of saddam and his sons), it doesn't make up for it.
If that's the point, well, I'm 100% behind you.
I just thought you were moaning becasue we're a rich country that could afford to give more money, but won't.
Whoops.
> I
> think the main thrust of the complaint is that we (US and UK) spend
> billions on a pointless war, whilst we spend dick all on a disaster.
That was the main point?
Hmmmm, I totally missed that out.
I've never agreed with the war, and although some good things have come of it (the removal /death of saddam and his sons), it doesn't make up for it.
If that's the point, well, I'm 100% behind you.
I just thought you were moaning becasue we're a rich country that could afford to give more money, but won't.
Whoops.
What's annoyed me thus far today is hearing on the radio that the UK has now upped it's aid to about £30 million, which, yes, it's good that we're upping the aid budget, I mean it may not be enough, but at least the amount is going up. But then I hear something along the lines of "That's the most donated by any single country"...
I mean that just sounds like a competition.
"Oh, it's okay, the situation still hasn't been resolved, with millions of people still homeless, without clean water or vaccinations, but hell, at least we donated the most! Now we can take the moral high ground with other countries!"
And another thing was the Daily Mail headline. Okay, Daily Mail bashing, hardly original. I forget the exact headline, but suffice to say it came across as another backslapping "haven't we done well in donating money" story designed to make everyone feel nice and warm inside about buying a paper that really cares...
I mean that just sounds like a competition.
"Oh, it's okay, the situation still hasn't been resolved, with millions of people still homeless, without clean water or vaccinations, but hell, at least we donated the most! Now we can take the moral high ground with other countries!"
And another thing was the Daily Mail headline. Okay, Daily Mail bashing, hardly original. I forget the exact headline, but suffice to say it came across as another backslapping "haven't we done well in donating money" story designed to make everyone feel nice and warm inside about buying a paper that really cares...
Ghost Force wrote:
> So, someone has chosen to complain about the countries giving the most
> aid, as opposed to those giving (comparitively) little.
>
> Makes. Sense.
>
> The UK is currently giving more than all of the EU combined, the US
> has long been the most generous donor to Africa and SE Asia.
Hello Belldandy. Nice Xmas? Good to see you're still posting an opinion without thinking about it and missing the point entirely. I think the main thrust of the complaint is that we (US and UK) spend billions on a pointless war, whilst we spend dick all on a disaster.
The US has also long been the country most responsible for screwing up Africa and SE Asia. Care to discuss that? And would you like to give the source for your assertion that the UK is giving more than the rest of the EU combined? Because to me, that sounds like yet another lie you've made up on the spot.
> So, someone has chosen to complain about the countries giving the most
> aid, as opposed to those giving (comparitively) little.
>
> Makes. Sense.
>
> The UK is currently giving more than all of the EU combined, the US
> has long been the most generous donor to Africa and SE Asia.
Hello Belldandy. Nice Xmas? Good to see you're still posting an opinion without thinking about it and missing the point entirely. I think the main thrust of the complaint is that we (US and UK) spend billions on a pointless war, whilst we spend dick all on a disaster.
The US has also long been the country most responsible for screwing up Africa and SE Asia. Care to discuss that? And would you like to give the source for your assertion that the UK is giving more than the rest of the EU combined? Because to me, that sounds like yet another lie you've made up on the spot.
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