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What sort of a society do we live in, really. 70,000, that's seventy thousand people have died. And what does our government offer them?
One. Million. Pounds.
Later they upped that to a 'whopping' £15 million, but in my opinion that's because they were shamed into it. Then there's the US who offer a 'collossal' £35 million. What really rubs it in though is Jack Straw and George Bush standing there and giving excuses why they can't give more. I really believe the western world has become completely morally bankrupt.
Bush : "Last year 40% of all aid given in the world was given by the US."
Who gives a crap who gave what when, you t***pot, do you really have a clue what the real world is about?? For gods sake, how much money have both nations plowed into that ridiculous war? I don't hear any complaints about budgets when that subject is raised. Not to mention the human loss of life.
It makes you ashamed to be British and affiliated with what is turning out to be an Empire of bullies, ignorant knuckledraggers and yes men. This New Year I'm hoping for a Nuclear Holocaust.
Rant Over. Time for the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.
One. Million. Pounds.
Later they upped that to a 'whopping' £15 million, but in my opinion that's because they were shamed into it. Then there's the US who offer a 'collossal' £35 million. What really rubs it in though is Jack Straw and George Bush standing there and giving excuses why they can't give more. I really believe the western world has become completely morally bankrupt.
Bush : "Last year 40% of all aid given in the world was given by the US."
Who gives a crap who gave what when, you t***pot, do you really have a clue what the real world is about?? For gods sake, how much money have both nations plowed into that ridiculous war? I don't hear any complaints about budgets when that subject is raised. Not to mention the human loss of life.
It makes you ashamed to be British and affiliated with what is turning out to be an Empire of bullies, ignorant knuckledraggers and yes men. This New Year I'm hoping for a Nuclear Holocaust.
Rant Over. Time for the Good, the Bad and the Ugly.
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Think how many aren't mentioned at all though.
Italy - Tight.
M@rk wrote:
> _ Estonia: $42,000
I find it a shame that an entire nation isn't wealthy enough to donate more than a Premiership football club.
> _ Estonia: $42,000
I find it a shame that an entire nation isn't wealthy enough to donate more than a Premiership football club.
Kinda suprised Japan offered $0.5billion. This was posted one minute ago on Yahoo! Saw on the news that lots of aid has already arrived and many many more on the way.
_ Japan: $500 million.
_ United States: $350 million.
_ Britain: $95 million
_ Sweden: $75.5 million
_ Spain: $68 million
_ China: $60 million
_ France: $57 million
_ Australia: $46.7 million.
_ Canada: $33 million.
_ Germany: $27 million
_ Switzerland: $21.9 million
_ Denmark: $18,1 million
_ Norway: $16.6 million
_ Portugal: $11 million
_ Qatar: $10 million
_ Saudi Arabia: $10 million
_ Singapore: $3.6 million
_ New Zealand: $3.5 million
_ Finland: $3.3 million
_ Kuwait: $2 million
_ United Arab Emirates: $2 million
_ Ireland: $1.4 million
_ Italy: $1.3 million
_ Turkey: $1.25 million
_ Czech Republic: $750,000
_ Iran: $627,000
_ South Korea: $600,000
_ Hungary: $411,000
_ Greece: $397,000
_ Luxembourg: $265,000
_ Monaco: $133,000
_ Mexico: $100,000
_ Nepal: $100,000
_ Estonia: $42,000
_ Japan: $500 million.
_ United States: $350 million.
_ Britain: $95 million
_ Sweden: $75.5 million
_ Spain: $68 million
_ China: $60 million
_ France: $57 million
_ Australia: $46.7 million.
_ Canada: $33 million.
_ Germany: $27 million
_ Switzerland: $21.9 million
_ Denmark: $18,1 million
_ Norway: $16.6 million
_ Portugal: $11 million
_ Qatar: $10 million
_ Saudi Arabia: $10 million
_ Singapore: $3.6 million
_ New Zealand: $3.5 million
_ Finland: $3.3 million
_ Kuwait: $2 million
_ United Arab Emirates: $2 million
_ Ireland: $1.4 million
_ Italy: $1.3 million
_ Turkey: $1.25 million
_ Czech Republic: $750,000
_ Iran: $627,000
_ South Korea: $600,000
_ Hungary: $411,000
_ Greece: $397,000
_ Luxembourg: $265,000
_ Monaco: $133,000
_ Mexico: $100,000
_ Nepal: $100,000
_ Estonia: $42,000
At last, its only taken 5 days but we've finally sent help in the shape of navy ships and an army unit. The cynical side of me says the government were shamed into it...
I suggest you have a look at the washington post photo diary here :
[URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/world/issues/tsunami/[/URL]
about mid way down the page, under where it says 'on the scene' there is a photo gallery. really brings it home to you.
warning : features pictures that may disturb.
[URL]http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/world/issues/tsunami/[/URL]
about mid way down the page, under where it says 'on the scene' there is a photo gallery. really brings it home to you.
warning : features pictures that may disturb.
No suprise the US has increased their aid to $350milllion. That should help a lot but there's still a lot of work that needs doing over the next year(s).
I am suprised by the very small number of US deaths so far compared to EU countries.
I am suprised by the very small number of US deaths so far compared to EU countries.
An unbiased update that doesn't include too much about british tourists :
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Death toll from tsunami disaster passes 120,000
BANDA ACEH, Indonesia (AP) - An unprecedented world relief drive to shelter, treat and feed millions of survivors of Asia's tsunami disaster kicked into high gear Friday as donations poured in and aid planes and ships _ including a U.S. aircraft carrier battle group _ rushed to the devastated region. The death toll passed 120,000.
Survivors on the ground grappled with the destruction. Teams of forensic experts in Thailand packed bodies in dry ice as the government announced its death toll in the tsunami disaster had doubled to more than 4,500 people, almost half of them foreigners, and hopes faded that more survivors would be found.
In the hardest-hit country, Indonesia, officials began to acknowledge that the death toll might never be known with precision, since towering waves on Sunday swept entire villages _ and their inhabitants _ out to sea. The country's official death toll stood at about 80,000, but Health Minister Siti Fadillah Supadi said it could reach 100,000.
"It is very difficult to predict the final toll,'' said Dody Budiatman, coordinator of national relief efforts. "We could search in small boats, but considering the numbers it would be very difficult.''
Death counts across the region continued to grow. More than 120,000 people were reported dead around southern Asia and as far away as Somalia on Africa's eastern coast, most killed by massive tsunamis that smashed coastlines after a magnitude-9.0 earthquake off Indonesia's coast on Sunday.
Sri Lanka reported about 28,500 deaths and India more than 7,700. A total of more than 300 were killed in Malaysia, Myanmar, Bangladesh, the Maldives, Somalia, Tanzania and Kenya.
U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said on Thursday that nations had donated US$500 million (euro370 million) toward the relief effort, but more help was needed. While the money starting rolling in, militaries across the globe also geared up to help. A U.S. aircraft carrier battle group was steaming to Sumatra.
C-130 cargo planes touched down in Indonesia on Friday with blankets, medicine and the first of 80,000 body bags. New Zealand, Australia, Singapore, Pakistan and scores of other nations also had planes in the air, rushing aid to victims. In Sumatra, pilots dropped food to villagers stranded among bloating corpses.
"Over the past few days it has registered deeply in the consciousness and conscience of the world as we seek to grasp the speed, the force and magnitude with which it happened. But we must also remain committed for the longer term,'' Annan said.
In Banda Aceh, on Sumatra island's devastated northwestern coast, Muslims held traditional Friday prayers at a 390-year-old mosque amid the stench of death from thousands of bodies.
"Allah still loves us, but he is testing us,'' cleric Ali told thousands of worshippers at the Jamii Lungbato Mosque. "This is also a warning. We have become arrogant and strayed too far from his teachings.''
Mosques in Aceh, many built in solid stone by Indonesia's former Dutch colonizers, have been turned into refugee camps, emergency health clinics _ or makeshift morgues.
Similar services were held all over Indonesia, the world's most populous Islamic country.
Responding to criticism that U.S. pledges have been slow to materialize and deliveries of aid not fast enough, U.S. State Department spokesman Richard Boucher ticked off a string of relief flights and declared: "Any implication we are not leading the way is wrong.''
The United States, India, Australia, Japan and the United Nations have formed an international coalition to coordinate worldwide relief and reconstruction efforts. The Indian navy, which has already deployed 32 ships and 29 aircraft for tsunami relief and rescue work, was sending two more ships Friday to Indonesia.
Asian countries were also working on their own to coordinate efforts. Leaders on Friday were trying to put together a meeting next week in Jakarta that would group Asian countries with international donors and organizations.
Forensics experts struggled to identify the dead and gauge casualty tolls. Thai scientist Pornthip Rojchanasiri, working along a stretch of beach north of the popular resort island of Phuket, said she had no idea how long it would take to identify all the dead.
"We do not have enough equipment, people to do this job,'' she said.
Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra said in some places dry ice was being used to preserve corpses. In others they were packed into refrigerated containers, but many also were laid out in front of Buddhist temples that dot the wrecked landscape of southern Thailand. Thai victims who have been identified were being cremated on funeral pyres.
As more bodies were recovered, families around the Indian Rim and beyond endured their sixth day without confirming the fate of friends and relatives who had taken holiday-season vacations to the sunny beaches of Thailand, India and Sri Lanka. Tens of thousands were still missing, including at least 2,500 Swedes, more than 1,000 Germans and 500 each from France and Denmark.
In Sri Lanka, where more than 4,000 people were unaccounted for, television channels were devoting 10 minutes every hour to read the names and details of the missing. Often photos of the missing were shown with appeals that they should contact their families or police.
On Phuket, people scoured photos pinned to notice boards of the dead and missing. Canadian tourist Dan Kwan was still hunting for his missing parents and refused to give up hope.
"At this point we hope against hope that they are still alive somewhere,'' he said, adding that it was possible they were unconscious or unable to speak.
The search for loved ones on Sumatra was even less coordinated. One man was looking for his grandmother by checking corpse after corpse scattered over a road near her ruined home.
Another zone where officials have hardly begun to get a sense of the human cost was India's remote Andaman and Nicobar islands, where entire villages were wiped out. With only 400 bodies found so far, the region's administrator said 10,000 people were missing.-AP
---------------
Death toll from tsunami disaster passes 120,000
BANDA ACEH, Indonesia (AP) - An unprecedented world relief drive to shelter, treat and feed millions of survivors of Asia's tsunami disaster kicked into high gear Friday as donations poured in and aid planes and ships _ including a U.S. aircraft carrier battle group _ rushed to the devastated region. The death toll passed 120,000.
Survivors on the ground grappled with the destruction. Teams of forensic experts in Thailand packed bodies in dry ice as the government announced its death toll in the tsunami disaster had doubled to more than 4,500 people, almost half of them foreigners, and hopes faded that more survivors would be found.
In the hardest-hit country, Indonesia, officials began to acknowledge that the death toll might never be known with precision, since towering waves on Sunday swept entire villages _ and their inhabitants _ out to sea. The country's official death toll stood at about 80,000, but Health Minister Siti Fadillah Supadi said it could reach 100,000.
"It is very difficult to predict the final toll,'' said Dody Budiatman, coordinator of national relief efforts. "We could search in small boats, but considering the numbers it would be very difficult.''
Death counts across the region continued to grow. More than 120,000 people were reported dead around southern Asia and as far away as Somalia on Africa's eastern coast, most killed by massive tsunamis that smashed coastlines after a magnitude-9.0 earthquake off Indonesia's coast on Sunday.
Sri Lanka reported about 28,500 deaths and India more than 7,700. A total of more than 300 were killed in Malaysia, Myanmar, Bangladesh, the Maldives, Somalia, Tanzania and Kenya.
U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan said on Thursday that nations had donated US$500 million (euro370 million) toward the relief effort, but more help was needed. While the money starting rolling in, militaries across the globe also geared up to help. A U.S. aircraft carrier battle group was steaming to Sumatra.
C-130 cargo planes touched down in Indonesia on Friday with blankets, medicine and the first of 80,000 body bags. New Zealand, Australia, Singapore, Pakistan and scores of other nations also had planes in the air, rushing aid to victims. In Sumatra, pilots dropped food to villagers stranded among bloating corpses.
"Over the past few days it has registered deeply in the consciousness and conscience of the world as we seek to grasp the speed, the force and magnitude with which it happened. But we must also remain committed for the longer term,'' Annan said.
In Banda Aceh, on Sumatra island's devastated northwestern coast, Muslims held traditional Friday prayers at a 390-year-old mosque amid the stench of death from thousands of bodies.
"Allah still loves us, but he is testing us,'' cleric Ali told thousands of worshippers at the Jamii Lungbato Mosque. "This is also a warning. We have become arrogant and strayed too far from his teachings.''
Mosques in Aceh, many built in solid stone by Indonesia's former Dutch colonizers, have been turned into refugee camps, emergency health clinics _ or makeshift morgues.
Similar services were held all over Indonesia, the world's most populous Islamic country.
Responding to criticism that U.S. pledges have been slow to materialize and deliveries of aid not fast enough, U.S. State Department spokesman Richard Boucher ticked off a string of relief flights and declared: "Any implication we are not leading the way is wrong.''
The United States, India, Australia, Japan and the United Nations have formed an international coalition to coordinate worldwide relief and reconstruction efforts. The Indian navy, which has already deployed 32 ships and 29 aircraft for tsunami relief and rescue work, was sending two more ships Friday to Indonesia.
Asian countries were also working on their own to coordinate efforts. Leaders on Friday were trying to put together a meeting next week in Jakarta that would group Asian countries with international donors and organizations.
Forensics experts struggled to identify the dead and gauge casualty tolls. Thai scientist Pornthip Rojchanasiri, working along a stretch of beach north of the popular resort island of Phuket, said she had no idea how long it would take to identify all the dead.
"We do not have enough equipment, people to do this job,'' she said.
Thai Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra said in some places dry ice was being used to preserve corpses. In others they were packed into refrigerated containers, but many also were laid out in front of Buddhist temples that dot the wrecked landscape of southern Thailand. Thai victims who have been identified were being cremated on funeral pyres.
As more bodies were recovered, families around the Indian Rim and beyond endured their sixth day without confirming the fate of friends and relatives who had taken holiday-season vacations to the sunny beaches of Thailand, India and Sri Lanka. Tens of thousands were still missing, including at least 2,500 Swedes, more than 1,000 Germans and 500 each from France and Denmark.
In Sri Lanka, where more than 4,000 people were unaccounted for, television channels were devoting 10 minutes every hour to read the names and details of the missing. Often photos of the missing were shown with appeals that they should contact their families or police.
On Phuket, people scoured photos pinned to notice boards of the dead and missing. Canadian tourist Dan Kwan was still hunting for his missing parents and refused to give up hope.
"At this point we hope against hope that they are still alive somewhere,'' he said, adding that it was possible they were unconscious or unable to speak.
The search for loved ones on Sumatra was even less coordinated. One man was looking for his grandmother by checking corpse after corpse scattered over a road near her ruined home.
Another zone where officials have hardly begun to get a sense of the human cost was India's remote Andaman and Nicobar islands, where entire villages were wiped out. With only 400 bodies found so far, the region's administrator said 10,000 people were missing.-AP
Forza wrote:
> munn wrote:
> Forza wrote:
> munn wrote:
> who ahve done nothing wrong by living in teh right country
>
> "the right country"
>
> oh dear oh dear.
>
> Guh, you're even stpider than I thought if you can't work out I'm
> extracting the urine.
>
> It's difficult to tell with you considering your horribly bigoted and
> obnoxious views.
Gah, it was a "stupid" response to a "stupid" post, I thought it would have been quite obvious.
> munn wrote:
> Forza wrote:
> munn wrote:
> who ahve done nothing wrong by living in teh right country
>
> "the right country"
>
> oh dear oh dear.
>
> Guh, you're even stpider than I thought if you can't work out I'm
> extracting the urine.
>
> It's difficult to tell with you considering your horribly bigoted and
> obnoxious views.
Gah, it was a "stupid" response to a "stupid" post, I thought it would have been quite obvious.
You know what, I've no idea why I exploded in anger in my second post.
I really don't.
And it's a result of that second post why I've been acting more and more cockheadish as the topic continued.
munn wrote:
> I'm not trying to be funny.
> All I'm saying is that there are hundreds of countries in the world,
> some just as rich as us, and the majority of them don't give a ****
>
> 1 million IS a pathetic figure to offer considering how rich the
> country is, but at least we're giving them something, don't forget
> that we have our own "crisis'" to deal with, and we're
> ****ed aroudn with on a regular basis when it comes to getting stuff
> for our tax.
>
> Considering how little we get from our own government, I'd say that
> they'e lucky they're even getting a million.
>
> Although, to be fair, we should at least be giving them 100 million,
> as that's less tahn 2 quid from each person in the country, and that
> would be enough to fund scores of services and food/water supplies
> for them.
>
> Bleh. I'm off to watch Desperado.
If I hadn't written everything in that's in Italics, then my point would have been fine.
Damn.
I really don't.
And it's a result of that second post why I've been acting more and more cockheadish as the topic continued.
munn wrote:
> I'm not trying to be funny.
> All I'm saying is that there are hundreds of countries in the world,
> some just as rich as us, and the majority of them don't give a ****
>
> 1 million IS a pathetic figure to offer considering how rich the
> country is, but at least we're giving them something, don't forget
> that we have our own "crisis'" to deal with, and we're
> ****ed aroudn with on a regular basis when it comes to getting stuff
> for our tax.
>
> Considering how little we get from our own government, I'd say that
> they'e lucky they're even getting a million.
>
> Although, to be fair, we should at least be giving them 100 million,
> as that's less tahn 2 quid from each person in the country, and that
> would be enough to fund scores of services and food/water supplies
> for them.
>
> Bleh. I'm off to watch Desperado.
If I hadn't written everything in that's in Italics, then my point would have been fine.
Damn.
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