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.... there was the bright flash, then darkness.
god himself greeted me at the pearly gates and has returned me to this world with a message:
he says he's had a good long think and he's changed his point of view on a lot of things. basically, being gay is ok, gambling is fun and beer is clever. he'll be sending J to the C (he's been modernised too) down in a couple of weeks to fill us all in.
Bummer eh Forest Fan? looks like you've been spouting out-of-date "wisdom".. DOH!
he also said that the bible was written during one of those "write 1 line and pass the paper to the next person" games, that's why it tails off towards the end, everyone wanted to play twister instead.
oh, and incase you were wondering, the bright light and then darkness was completely true.
turns out the bulb went.
god himself greeted me at the pearly gates and has returned me to this world with a message:
he says he's had a good long think and he's changed his point of view on a lot of things. basically, being gay is ok, gambling is fun and beer is clever. he'll be sending J to the C (he's been modernised too) down in a couple of weeks to fill us all in.
Bummer eh Forest Fan? looks like you've been spouting out-of-date "wisdom".. DOH!
he also said that the bible was written during one of those "write 1 line and pass the paper to the next person" games, that's why it tails off towards the end, everyone wanted to play twister instead.
oh, and incase you were wondering, the bright light and then darkness was completely true.
turns out the bulb went.
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My relationship with God is one of fear, respect, serving and thanksgiving, for sending His Son Jesus to die on the cross.
Forest Fan wrote:
> Light wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> God like a wifebeater?
>
> Well, unlike a husband who unrightfully punishes his wife by beating
> her, God SHOULD rightfully punish EVERYONE. By His grace some avoid
> the punishment, the beating, this is the grace of God.
>
>
> So then Forest Fan; how is what you've just said any different to my
> description of the mindset of a battered spouse, which went like
> this;
>
>
>
>
> Furthermore, this obsession that you have with sin. It's one more
> reason why I'm more and more convinced that I'm 100% correct to
> compare your particular brand of christian mindset with that of a
> battered wife. Let me explain further;
>
> In every case of domestic abuse I dealt with, the woman had always
> been told by her spouse that she'd done something terrible to make
> her deserve the beatings she received. However, because the maggoty
> little scumslug told her that he loved her, and it was that a love
> that stopped her receiving more beatings (which, after having been
> repeatedly told that she deserved them, she believed him. Despite
> not
> having any evidence of what she'd done to deserve it beyond "He
> says I deserve it"), the woman was left thinking that he must
> truly love her because she was an awful person who deserved to be
> beaten, yet he only did so when she 'misbehaved'.
>
> Now how is that even remotely different to the putrid and fearful
> philosophy that you're laughably referring to as God's 'unfailing
> love'?
>
>
> It's no different at all, is it Forest Fan?
>
> Persuming the wife is innocent and the husband a bully, the wife
> deserves not to be beaten and the husband should not be beating the
> wife.
I'm talking about the mindset, not the actual beating. I am saying that you have the mindset of the battered wife I've described above. Would you agree?
>
> God should beat us all in Hell, we are NOT innocent and should be
> punished. He is even gracious and chooses to give us all the
> opportunity to be saved from this punishment, even though we
> completely deserve it.
Erm...and you've just gone on to prove it. What you have said follows exactly the pattern I described in the mind of an abused spouse. You're proving my point for me.
>
> Well done Light, for referring to me as Forest Fan.
And well done for proving me correct in my assertion that your relationship with God is the same as the relationship between an abusive husband and a battered spouse. Really, you've made my day.
> Light wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> God like a wifebeater?
>
> Well, unlike a husband who unrightfully punishes his wife by beating
> her, God SHOULD rightfully punish EVERYONE. By His grace some avoid
> the punishment, the beating, this is the grace of God.
>
>
> So then Forest Fan; how is what you've just said any different to my
> description of the mindset of a battered spouse, which went like
> this;
>
>
>
>
> Furthermore, this obsession that you have with sin. It's one more
> reason why I'm more and more convinced that I'm 100% correct to
> compare your particular brand of christian mindset with that of a
> battered wife. Let me explain further;
>
> In every case of domestic abuse I dealt with, the woman had always
> been told by her spouse that she'd done something terrible to make
> her deserve the beatings she received. However, because the maggoty
> little scumslug told her that he loved her, and it was that a love
> that stopped her receiving more beatings (which, after having been
> repeatedly told that she deserved them, she believed him. Despite
> not
> having any evidence of what she'd done to deserve it beyond "He
> says I deserve it"), the woman was left thinking that he must
> truly love her because she was an awful person who deserved to be
> beaten, yet he only did so when she 'misbehaved'.
>
> Now how is that even remotely different to the putrid and fearful
> philosophy that you're laughably referring to as God's 'unfailing
> love'?
>
>
> It's no different at all, is it Forest Fan?
>
> Persuming the wife is innocent and the husband a bully, the wife
> deserves not to be beaten and the husband should not be beating the
> wife.
I'm talking about the mindset, not the actual beating. I am saying that you have the mindset of the battered wife I've described above. Would you agree?
>
> God should beat us all in Hell, we are NOT innocent and should be
> punished. He is even gracious and chooses to give us all the
> opportunity to be saved from this punishment, even though we
> completely deserve it.
Erm...and you've just gone on to prove it. What you have said follows exactly the pattern I described in the mind of an abused spouse. You're proving my point for me.
>
> Well done Light, for referring to me as Forest Fan.
And well done for proving me correct in my assertion that your relationship with God is the same as the relationship between an abusive husband and a battered spouse. Really, you've made my day.
Light wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> God like a wifebeater?
>
> Well, unlike a husband who unrightfully punishes his wife by beating
> her, God SHOULD rightfully punish EVERYONE. By His grace some avoid
> the punishment, the beating, this is the grace of God.
>
>
> So then Forest Fan; how is what you've just said any different to my
> description of the mindset of a battered spouse, which went like
> this;
>
>
>
>
> Furthermore, this obsession that you have with sin. It's one more
> reason why I'm more and more convinced that I'm 100% correct to
> compare your particular brand of christian mindset with that of a
> battered wife. Let me explain further;
>
> In every case of domestic abuse I dealt with, the woman had always
> been told by her spouse that she'd done something terrible to make
> her deserve the beatings she received. However, because the maggoty
> little scumslug told her that he loved her, and it was that a love
> that stopped her receiving more beatings (which, after having been
> repeatedly told that she deserved them, she believed him. Despite
> not
> having any evidence of what she'd done to deserve it beyond "He
> says I deserve it"), the woman was left thinking that he must
> truly love her because she was an awful person who deserved to be
> beaten, yet he only did so when she 'misbehaved'.
>
> Now how is that even remotely different to the putrid and fearful
> philosophy that you're laughably referring to as God's 'unfailing
> love'?
>
>
> It's no different at all, is it Forest Fan?
Persuming the wife is innocent and the husband a bully, the wife deserves not to be beaten and the husband should not be beating the wife.
God should beat us all in Hell, we are NOT innocent and should be punished. He is even gracious and chooses to give us all the opportunity to be saved from this punishment, even though we completely deserve it.
Well done Light, for referring to me as Forest Fan.
> Forest Fan wrote:
> God like a wifebeater?
>
> Well, unlike a husband who unrightfully punishes his wife by beating
> her, God SHOULD rightfully punish EVERYONE. By His grace some avoid
> the punishment, the beating, this is the grace of God.
>
>
> So then Forest Fan; how is what you've just said any different to my
> description of the mindset of a battered spouse, which went like
> this;
>
>
>
>
> Furthermore, this obsession that you have with sin. It's one more
> reason why I'm more and more convinced that I'm 100% correct to
> compare your particular brand of christian mindset with that of a
> battered wife. Let me explain further;
>
> In every case of domestic abuse I dealt with, the woman had always
> been told by her spouse that she'd done something terrible to make
> her deserve the beatings she received. However, because the maggoty
> little scumslug told her that he loved her, and it was that a love
> that stopped her receiving more beatings (which, after having been
> repeatedly told that she deserved them, she believed him. Despite
> not
> having any evidence of what she'd done to deserve it beyond "He
> says I deserve it"), the woman was left thinking that he must
> truly love her because she was an awful person who deserved to be
> beaten, yet he only did so when she 'misbehaved'.
>
> Now how is that even remotely different to the putrid and fearful
> philosophy that you're laughably referring to as God's 'unfailing
> love'?
>
>
> It's no different at all, is it Forest Fan?
Persuming the wife is innocent and the husband a bully, the wife deserves not to be beaten and the husband should not be beating the wife.
God should beat us all in Hell, we are NOT innocent and should be punished. He is even gracious and chooses to give us all the opportunity to be saved from this punishment, even though we completely deserve it.
Well done Light, for referring to me as Forest Fan.
Forest Fan wrote:
> God like a wifebeater?
>
> Well, unlike a husband who unrightfully punishes his wife by beating
> her, God SHOULD rightfully punish EVERYONE. By His grace some avoid
> the punishment, the beating, this is the grace of God.
So then Forest Fan; how is what you've just said any different to my description of the mindset of a battered spouse, which went like this;
>
> Furthermore, this obsession that you have with sin. It's one more
> reason why I'm more and more convinced that I'm 100% correct to
> compare your particular brand of christian mindset with that of a
> battered wife. Let me explain further;
>
> In every case of domestic abuse I dealt with, the woman had always
> been told by her spouse that she'd done something terrible to make
> her deserve the beatings she received. However, because the maggoty
> little scumslug told her that he loved her, and it was that a love
> that stopped her receiving more beatings (which, after having been
> repeatedly told that she deserved them, she believed him. Despite
> not
> having any evidence of what she'd done to deserve it beyond "He
> says I deserve it"), the woman was left thinking that he must
> truly love her because she was an awful person who deserved to be
> beaten, yet he only did so when she 'misbehaved'.
>
> Now how is that even remotely different to the putrid and fearful
> philosophy that you're laughably referring to as God's 'unfailing
> love'?
It's no different at all, is it Forest Fan?
> God like a wifebeater?
>
> Well, unlike a husband who unrightfully punishes his wife by beating
> her, God SHOULD rightfully punish EVERYONE. By His grace some avoid
> the punishment, the beating, this is the grace of God.
So then Forest Fan; how is what you've just said any different to my description of the mindset of a battered spouse, which went like this;
>
> Furthermore, this obsession that you have with sin. It's one more
> reason why I'm more and more convinced that I'm 100% correct to
> compare your particular brand of christian mindset with that of a
> battered wife. Let me explain further;
>
> In every case of domestic abuse I dealt with, the woman had always
> been told by her spouse that she'd done something terrible to make
> her deserve the beatings she received. However, because the maggoty
> little scumslug told her that he loved her, and it was that a love
> that stopped her receiving more beatings (which, after having been
> repeatedly told that she deserved them, she believed him. Despite
> not
> having any evidence of what she'd done to deserve it beyond "He
> says I deserve it"), the woman was left thinking that he must
> truly love her because she was an awful person who deserved to be
> beaten, yet he only did so when she 'misbehaved'.
>
> Now how is that even remotely different to the putrid and fearful
> philosophy that you're laughably referring to as God's 'unfailing
> love'?
It's no different at all, is it Forest Fan?
God like a wifebeater?
Well, unlike a husband who unrightfully punishes his wife by beating her, God SHOULD rightfully punish EVERYONE. By His grace some avoid the punishment, the beating, this is the grace of God.
Well, unlike a husband who unrightfully punishes his wife by beating her, God SHOULD rightfully punish EVERYONE. By His grace some avoid the punishment, the beating, this is the grace of God.
Forest Fan wrote:
> We should fear the ability God has to judge people, leading to Hell.
And how exactly does that address the comparison of your God to a wifebeater, and you to a battered spouse? It doesn't, does it? It simply reaffims what I've said.
Thanks Forest; always nice to hear I was right about your faith.
> We should fear the ability God has to judge people, leading to Hell.
And how exactly does that address the comparison of your God to a wifebeater, and you to a battered spouse? It doesn't, does it? It simply reaffims what I've said.
Thanks Forest; always nice to hear I was right about your faith.
We should fear the ability God has to judge people, leading to Hell.
Forest Fan wrote:
> Which post?
This;
> Forest Fan wrote:
> You know Light, I can't figure out why you don't want Jesus. What is
> it stopping you accepting Jesus?
> Light wrote:
> You.
>
> You're what's stopping me. You make God sound like a Nazi, with Jesus
> as his stormtrooper in chief. Someone says they love me but they'll
> torture me if I don't do what they say? That's not love. That's a
> desire for control. Love doesn't ask ANYTHING in return, 'kay? Love
> doesn't make demands, love is unconditional. What you're trying so
> desperately to convince us (or maybe yourself) of is that it's okay
> to be terrified of someone or something if that someone tells you
> that they love you. Well, sorry but no. Christianity would be MUCH
> more accessible if some of you christians took some of your own
> lessons on brotherhood, compassion, and tolerance on board. Until you
> do that, you're a one-note joke who isn't nearly as important as he'd
> like to be.
I'd like you to address what I've said here Forest. I'd like you to give me an explanation about why I'm wrong in what I say here. And I'd like a proper explaination, rather than a biblical quote and you just mindlessly repeating "God is love", okay Forest Let's hear you rebutt my point that the love you describe is not love at all, just fearful abuse.
> Which post?
This;
> Forest Fan wrote:
> You know Light, I can't figure out why you don't want Jesus. What is
> it stopping you accepting Jesus?
> Light wrote:
> You.
>
> You're what's stopping me. You make God sound like a Nazi, with Jesus
> as his stormtrooper in chief. Someone says they love me but they'll
> torture me if I don't do what they say? That's not love. That's a
> desire for control. Love doesn't ask ANYTHING in return, 'kay? Love
> doesn't make demands, love is unconditional. What you're trying so
> desperately to convince us (or maybe yourself) of is that it's okay
> to be terrified of someone or something if that someone tells you
> that they love you. Well, sorry but no. Christianity would be MUCH
> more accessible if some of you christians took some of your own
> lessons on brotherhood, compassion, and tolerance on board. Until you
> do that, you're a one-note joke who isn't nearly as important as he'd
> like to be.
I'd like you to address what I've said here Forest. I'd like you to give me an explanation about why I'm wrong in what I say here. And I'd like a proper explaination, rather than a biblical quote and you just mindlessly repeating "God is love", okay Forest Let's hear you rebutt my point that the love you describe is not love at all, just fearful abuse.
Which post?
Forest Fan wrote:
> Who's Gump?
...and now three threads? Heheheheh. Okay Forest; address the post like a good little Christian who wants to preach and convince the unbelievers.
> Who's Gump?
...and now three threads? Heheheheh. Okay Forest; address the post like a good little Christian who wants to preach and convince the unbelievers.
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