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The Playstation 2 (PS2 for short) is the worlds most powerful games console, its 10 times as powerful as the original Playstation which means that the graphics and sound are simply amazing.
This machine truly takes you to the peak of interactive entertainment; it not only plays games but also has a built in DVD player, which allows you to watch DVD movies. The Playstation 2 is now destined to become even more popular than its predecessor, having sold a staggering 10 million units in only 5 months. This means simply that your investing in the future, every major developer is now producing games for the PS2 and already the PS2 has some great games released for it. Such as Zone of Enders (Z.O.E.), Timesplitters and TekkenTagTournament. But as they say the best is yet to come with GranTurismo3, MetalGearSolid 2, Silent Hill2, WWF Smackdown 3 and the Getaway sure to be big hits when they’re released later this year.
This machine truly takes you to the peak of interactive entertainment; it not only plays games but also has a built in DVD player, which allows you to watch DVD movies. The Playstation 2 is now destined to become even more popular than its predecessor, having sold a staggering 10 million units in only 5 months. This means simply that your investing in the future, every major developer is now producing games for the PS2 and already the PS2 has some great games released for it. Such as Zone of Enders (Z.O.E.), Timesplitters and TekkenTagTournament. But as they say the best is yet to come with GranTurismo3, MetalGearSolid 2, Silent Hill2, WWF Smackdown 3 and the Getaway sure to be big hits when they’re released later this year.
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Pagey wrote:
> Me, a casual gamer? I THINK NOT. I absolutely cannot stand casual
> gamers. I know what they are like and I AM NOT ONE OF THEM. I cannot
> believe how pathetic your definition of a casual gamer is. I AM NOT
> BIASED TOWARDS ONE CONSOLE. I like Dreamcast, PC, Xbox, Game Boy,
> N64 and Gamecube. I DO NOT like any Sony console because they
> started the casual gamer market and are therefore responsible for
> buggering up the gaming industry.
So you are biased against one console then and without a good reason. Interesting!
Why is the gaming industry buggered up?
What is wrong with so called 'casual gaming'?
It seems to me that the gaming industry needs these 'casual gamers' because they are providing a lot of funding for new projects. They are providing a wider market insuring the survival of the gaming industry.
It also seems apparent that 'casual gamers' are not PSX and PS2 exclusive, they are as multi format games. I see no problem with this.
Why do you blame Sony?
Why do you complain so much?
And finally, are you the sort of person that will dodge questions such as these?
> Me, a casual gamer? I THINK NOT. I absolutely cannot stand casual
> gamers. I know what they are like and I AM NOT ONE OF THEM. I cannot
> believe how pathetic your definition of a casual gamer is. I AM NOT
> BIASED TOWARDS ONE CONSOLE. I like Dreamcast, PC, Xbox, Game Boy,
> N64 and Gamecube. I DO NOT like any Sony console because they
> started the casual gamer market and are therefore responsible for
> buggering up the gaming industry.
So you are biased against one console then and without a good reason. Interesting!
Why is the gaming industry buggered up?
What is wrong with so called 'casual gaming'?
It seems to me that the gaming industry needs these 'casual gamers' because they are providing a lot of funding for new projects. They are providing a wider market insuring the survival of the gaming industry.
It also seems apparent that 'casual gamers' are not PSX and PS2 exclusive, they are as multi format games. I see no problem with this.
Why do you blame Sony?
Why do you complain so much?
And finally, are you the sort of person that will dodge questions such as these?
> I DO NOT like any Sony console because they
> started the casual gamer market and are therefore responsible for
> buggering up the gaming industry.
Jeez, how pathetic are you, boy? The gaming industry is bigger and better than ever, and that's a direct result of the original PlayStation. If Sony hadn't done it, someone else would have.
This bull about 'hardcore' and 'casual' gamers is complete tripe, used by those who somehow want to sound superior to others; and it usually results in pathetic arguments like this. Your argument is also severely flawed simply due to the number of multi-format games available, which now include Sega.
Games are games whatever platform they appear on. If there was such a thing as a true 'hardcore gamer', they would only be interested in games, pure and simple - not the platform they appear on, as gameplay is the all-important thing. You clearly could not be a hardcore gamer if you tried, as you are far too fixated on the platform used.
Now toddle off back under whichever rock you came from, and take your delusions with you.
> started the casual gamer market and are therefore responsible for
> buggering up the gaming industry.
Jeez, how pathetic are you, boy? The gaming industry is bigger and better than ever, and that's a direct result of the original PlayStation. If Sony hadn't done it, someone else would have.
This bull about 'hardcore' and 'casual' gamers is complete tripe, used by those who somehow want to sound superior to others; and it usually results in pathetic arguments like this. Your argument is also severely flawed simply due to the number of multi-format games available, which now include Sega.
Games are games whatever platform they appear on. If there was such a thing as a true 'hardcore gamer', they would only be interested in games, pure and simple - not the platform they appear on, as gameplay is the all-important thing. You clearly could not be a hardcore gamer if you tried, as you are far too fixated on the platform used.
Now toddle off back under whichever rock you came from, and take your delusions with you.
There is no such thing as a 'hardcore gamer' and no such thing as a 'casual gamer'.
Well, Xbox is basically a PC with a GeForce 3 graphics card and we know what to expect from that. It also has Project Gotham on it which is a new MSR. That will be the one that knocks GT3 off its perch.
Gamecube will basically be an N64 but with better graphics and hopefully more games.
Gamecube will basically be an N64 but with better graphics and hopefully more games.
Me, a casual gamer? I THINK NOT. I absolutely cannot stand casual gamers. I know what they are like and I AM NOT ONE OF THEM. I cannot believe how pathetic your definition of a casual gamer is. I AM NOT BIASED TOWARDS ONE CONSOLE. I like Dreamcast, PC, Xbox, Game Boy, N64 and Gamecube. I DO NOT like any Sony console because they started the casual gamer market and are therefore responsible for buggering up the gaming industry.
Also, do you think a 'casual gamer' would be willing to splash out £300 on a console??
I think not.
I think not.
Pagey, where do you get all this bullcrap from??
You see, you obviously can't accept that your beloved Sega have been overtaken by Sony, and that the PS2 WILL be a great console and it WILL have great games.
Also, if you say, "PS2 owners aren't hardcore games," once more, I will get the whole of FOG onto you, and I will also explain to you why I think YOU ARE THE CASUAL GAMER AROUND HERE!!
Casual gamers can't accept it when a console that they don't own is doing well.
Casual gamers are very biased.
Casual gamers will never ever admit that their favoured console/company is doing badly.
Now who does that sound like???? YOU!!
So be quiet, cos me and Meka can't be bothered with you when we could be having sufisticated arguments on FOG.
You see, you obviously can't accept that your beloved Sega have been overtaken by Sony, and that the PS2 WILL be a great console and it WILL have great games.
Also, if you say, "PS2 owners aren't hardcore games," once more, I will get the whole of FOG onto you, and I will also explain to you why I think YOU ARE THE CASUAL GAMER AROUND HERE!!
Casual gamers can't accept it when a console that they don't own is doing well.
Casual gamers are very biased.
Casual gamers will never ever admit that their favoured console/company is doing badly.
Now who does that sound like???? YOU!!
So be quiet, cos me and Meka can't be bothered with you when we could be having sufisticated arguments on FOG.
meka_dragon wrote:
> Pagey wrote:
> Meka Dragon and Ant, are you mentally disfigured?
>
No Pagey.
Yes you are.
>I have played on a
> PS2 many a time and it
> really IS NOT a hardcore gamer's machine.
So how do you define a
> Hardcore gamer's machine? Surely some people that you would classify
> as a 'casual' gamer own Dreamcasts
Maybe, but they are probably the people who rag it.
The term 'hardcore gamer' is
> a bit daft really, isn't it. Are you trying to say that if you play
> more games you can't have a PS2 or PSX to play them on? Why because
> they're successful?
No, it isn't about how long you play games for it is WHAT GAMES YOU PLAY! I couldn't see a casual gamer playing all the way through MSR for example.
It's the same pathetic arguement that some
> music fans use, claiming that anything popular is rubbish, and if
> something becomes popular that previuosly wasn't, then they 'sold
> out'.
NO. The PS2 is only popular 'cos the majority of people are casual gamers.
> Sequels are good BUT THEY HAVE TO BE DIFFERENT!!!! Is
> RR5 different
> from RR4? Nooooo. Is TTT different from Tekken
> 3? Nooooo. Now, is
> Phantasy Star Online different from
> Phantasy Star. YES, YES, YES!
> The plot is different, the game
> is different.
The same applies to
> Shenmue 2. At least it
> provides a different setting, lots of new
> features (The Zelda
> style button select for example) and much more.
> Final Fantasy
> is ok but too many sequels can spoil the broth that
> originally
> tasted good.
If you're going to say that Phantasy Star is
> different as it has a different plot, then how can you level
> criticism at the Final Fantasy series?
Because there are TOO MANY Final Fantasy games. 11? THat is ridiculous.
Each of those have
> different plots, and run on different engines. The battle system has
> developed with the series, and each game manages to add something
> new.
BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY.
Stop talking crap Meka and Ant.
Why should I stop
> pulling your worthless discussion points to pieces? Is a little bit
> of disagreement too much to handle? If I wish to express a diffent
> view to you, then I shall do so. These are discussion forums after
> all.
Yeah, but you go on about the PS f**king 2 for absolutely ever.
>I'm not totally ragging PS2. GT3 and MGS2 are kind of
> rehashes but they
> might be worthy of purchase if there is
> enough difference.
I suggest you remove those blinkers. You
> obviously must be a casual gamer if you won't accept and play games
> on all platforms.
NO A HARDCORE GAMER ONLY BUYS ONE CONSOLE AND STICKS TO IT. PLUS, A HARDCORE GAMER WOULDN'T BUY A PS2 ANYWAY.
> Pagey wrote:
> Meka Dragon and Ant, are you mentally disfigured?
>
No Pagey.
Yes you are.
>I have played on a
> PS2 many a time and it
> really IS NOT a hardcore gamer's machine.
So how do you define a
> Hardcore gamer's machine? Surely some people that you would classify
> as a 'casual' gamer own Dreamcasts
Maybe, but they are probably the people who rag it.
The term 'hardcore gamer' is
> a bit daft really, isn't it. Are you trying to say that if you play
> more games you can't have a PS2 or PSX to play them on? Why because
> they're successful?
No, it isn't about how long you play games for it is WHAT GAMES YOU PLAY! I couldn't see a casual gamer playing all the way through MSR for example.
It's the same pathetic arguement that some
> music fans use, claiming that anything popular is rubbish, and if
> something becomes popular that previuosly wasn't, then they 'sold
> out'.
NO. The PS2 is only popular 'cos the majority of people are casual gamers.
> Sequels are good BUT THEY HAVE TO BE DIFFERENT!!!! Is
> RR5 different
> from RR4? Nooooo. Is TTT different from Tekken
> 3? Nooooo. Now, is
> Phantasy Star Online different from
> Phantasy Star. YES, YES, YES!
> The plot is different, the game
> is different.
The same applies to
> Shenmue 2. At least it
> provides a different setting, lots of new
> features (The Zelda
> style button select for example) and much more.
> Final Fantasy
> is ok but too many sequels can spoil the broth that
> originally
> tasted good.
If you're going to say that Phantasy Star is
> different as it has a different plot, then how can you level
> criticism at the Final Fantasy series?
Because there are TOO MANY Final Fantasy games. 11? THat is ridiculous.
Each of those have
> different plots, and run on different engines. The battle system has
> developed with the series, and each game manages to add something
> new.
BUT THERE ARE TOO MANY.
Stop talking crap Meka and Ant.
Why should I stop
> pulling your worthless discussion points to pieces? Is a little bit
> of disagreement too much to handle? If I wish to express a diffent
> view to you, then I shall do so. These are discussion forums after
> all.
Yeah, but you go on about the PS f**king 2 for absolutely ever.
>I'm not totally ragging PS2. GT3 and MGS2 are kind of
> rehashes but they
> might be worthy of purchase if there is
> enough difference.
I suggest you remove those blinkers. You
> obviously must be a casual gamer if you won't accept and play games
> on all platforms.
NO A HARDCORE GAMER ONLY BUYS ONE CONSOLE AND STICKS TO IT. PLUS, A HARDCORE GAMER WOULDN'T BUY A PS2 ANYWAY.
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