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Well, the drug is being (or has been) downgraded to class C. What does this mean? The government are keen to point out that it is still illegal, that those in possession will still be arrested.
On the news tonight, they used the phrase "Cannabis, a drug tens of thousands of people choose to smoke each week". I think they are seriously underestimating how widespread its use is. I wager everyone on here knows somebody who smokes it, I certainly do. Could decriminalizing the drug work in this country? There are huge benefits for the government in the way that it would free up a lot of police time, which could be used for catching those dealing/possessing harder drugs.
Is there any point whatsoever in downgrading the drug as they have done?
Do you have any views on the drug, or the questions I have asked above?
On the news tonight, they used the phrase "Cannabis, a drug tens of thousands of people choose to smoke each week". I think they are seriously underestimating how widespread its use is. I wager everyone on here knows somebody who smokes it, I certainly do. Could decriminalizing the drug work in this country? There are huge benefits for the government in the way that it would free up a lot of police time, which could be used for catching those dealing/possessing harder drugs.
Is there any point whatsoever in downgrading the drug as they have done?
Do you have any views on the drug, or the questions I have asked above?
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Yukikaze wrote:
> And yes you are a waster.
>
> And if driving at 46mph makes me a waster, then I guess I'm just a
> big ol' wasteroo. I've wasted my life, whatever am I to do etc.
>
> Yeah you are. What makes you so special that you can do 46mph whilst
> other stick to the law eh? Come on, why can you break the law? More
> to the point where do you stop eh? Does your idea of how far you can
> break the law differ from someone elses? Of course it does. Hang on,
> if the law doesn't apply to you then why should it apply to me eh?
> You want to drive fast and take illegal drugs, I don't want to bother
> paying tax anymore please, you can pay mine for me because my
> insurance goes up when you whack into someone driving over the speed
> limit.
Okay, confession time. I admit it.
I am a speeder.
I've been speeding since I was in school, and I got my first taste of driving. All my mates were into it, and were like 'you should try it, it's great'. So the first time I got in my car, I tried it. And I was hooked. Pretty soon I was speeding every day, going faster and faster each time. Sometimes I thought I was going too fast, but I soon got used to it. My friends and family had alienated me by the time I realised I was addicted to speeding. I wasted all my money on petrol and lost my job because I couldn't keep my car on the road. Now I'm just a shell of a man with a speeding habit. I've wasted my life.
Lighten up, Bell. For the record, I never purposely speed (often it's an unconscious thing, but as I don't think you drive, you probably wouldn't understand) and I don't do drugs. I do take objection to being labelled a waster however, by a close-minded ignorant chap such as yourself, who as far as I can see, isn't really in a position to lecture.
And with that, this ludicrous laugh-a-thon is drawn to a close.
> And yes you are a waster.
>
> And if driving at 46mph makes me a waster, then I guess I'm just a
> big ol' wasteroo. I've wasted my life, whatever am I to do etc.
>
> Yeah you are. What makes you so special that you can do 46mph whilst
> other stick to the law eh? Come on, why can you break the law? More
> to the point where do you stop eh? Does your idea of how far you can
> break the law differ from someone elses? Of course it does. Hang on,
> if the law doesn't apply to you then why should it apply to me eh?
> You want to drive fast and take illegal drugs, I don't want to bother
> paying tax anymore please, you can pay mine for me because my
> insurance goes up when you whack into someone driving over the speed
> limit.
Okay, confession time. I admit it.
I am a speeder.
I've been speeding since I was in school, and I got my first taste of driving. All my mates were into it, and were like 'you should try it, it's great'. So the first time I got in my car, I tried it. And I was hooked. Pretty soon I was speeding every day, going faster and faster each time. Sometimes I thought I was going too fast, but I soon got used to it. My friends and family had alienated me by the time I realised I was addicted to speeding. I wasted all my money on petrol and lost my job because I couldn't keep my car on the road. Now I'm just a shell of a man with a speeding habit. I've wasted my life.
Lighten up, Bell. For the record, I never purposely speed (often it's an unconscious thing, but as I don't think you drive, you probably wouldn't understand) and I don't do drugs. I do take objection to being labelled a waster however, by a close-minded ignorant chap such as yourself, who as far as I can see, isn't really in a position to lecture.
And with that, this ludicrous laugh-a-thon is drawn to a close.
"Crap" is not a swear word as such.
"Tw@t" is the slang for a womans vagiina.
"Tw@t" is the slang for a womans vagiina.
Mr Snuggly wrote:
> Ever consider that perhaps these people can enjoy themselves through
> other means, but choose to enhance their enjoyment with their drug of
> choice? Sure, it's still against the law, but that doesn't mean you
> can tag everyone with the same label.
No they are just sad tw@ts.
And, why is tw@ts on the swear filter yet crap isn't?
> Ever consider that perhaps these people can enjoy themselves through
> other means, but choose to enhance their enjoyment with their drug of
> choice? Sure, it's still against the law, but that doesn't mean you
> can tag everyone with the same label.
No they are just sad tw@ts.
And, why is tw@ts on the swear filter yet crap isn't?
Yukikaze wrote:
> I mean, even SR rules for these forums prove that. If I were to make
> a topic discussing MP3 and movie downloads then I'd be warned/banned
> and the topic removed. Here we have people discussing actual
> experiences of Cannabis, and how to take it, yet the topic is here.
>
> Clear example. Talking about illegal MP3 files and how to use them
> etc is deemed bad. Talking about illegal drugs and how to use
> them/what they are like is not.
"Deemed bad"? Is an icon placed next to the topic "This has been deemed bad"? No. And for your information, I made a topic about how to obtain a crack for a pirate copy of a game, and was warned, but the topic was not removed. This forum is not a Nazi regime. Not all topics are deleted that are, as you put it, "Deemed bad" This topic is "bad" in your words. Perhaps the things discussed in it are less than kosher, but I would consider it a focal point for controversy.
> I mean, even SR rules for these forums prove that. If I were to make
> a topic discussing MP3 and movie downloads then I'd be warned/banned
> and the topic removed. Here we have people discussing actual
> experiences of Cannabis, and how to take it, yet the topic is here.
>
> Clear example. Talking about illegal MP3 files and how to use them
> etc is deemed bad. Talking about illegal drugs and how to use
> them/what they are like is not.
"Deemed bad"? Is an icon placed next to the topic "This has been deemed bad"? No. And for your information, I made a topic about how to obtain a crack for a pirate copy of a game, and was warned, but the topic was not removed. This forum is not a Nazi regime. Not all topics are deleted that are, as you put it, "Deemed bad" This topic is "bad" in your words. Perhaps the things discussed in it are less than kosher, but I would consider it a focal point for controversy.
Yukikaze wrote:
> RoJ wrote:
> What a disagreeable young man.
>
> No, you're another person who thinks the law is this multiple choice
> idea, break what suits you and enforce what suits you.
>
> I mean, even SR rules for these forums prove that. If I were to make
> a topic discussing MP3 and movie downloads then I'd be warned/banned
> and the topic removed. Here we have people discussing actual
> experiences of Cannabis, and how to take it, yet the topic is here.
>
> Clear example. Talking about illegal MP3 files and how to use them
> etc is deemed bad. Talking about illegal drugs and how to use
> them/what they are like is not.
Having our site linking directly to MP3s or other illegal material holds us liable. Talking about the existence of MP3s does not. Likewise, if someone posted a link to a website selling drugs/drug paraphenalia then it would be removed, but a discussion about drug culture and the rights and wrongs of drug taking is fair game. Do you really want the forums to be nannied that much?
I haven't seen anyone advocating the use of drugs here. I've seen people admit to taking them, but that doesn't break the rules of the forum. It'd be the same as banning someone because they're chatting about how they nicked a pen from WHSmith when they were twelve. If I, or any chat moderator, sees a post that is unsuitable, then it'll be removed.
To be honest, I don't go through all the posts myself so I can't say there haven't been any, but chat moderators should pick up unsuitable stuff and remove it.
> RoJ wrote:
> What a disagreeable young man.
>
> No, you're another person who thinks the law is this multiple choice
> idea, break what suits you and enforce what suits you.
>
> I mean, even SR rules for these forums prove that. If I were to make
> a topic discussing MP3 and movie downloads then I'd be warned/banned
> and the topic removed. Here we have people discussing actual
> experiences of Cannabis, and how to take it, yet the topic is here.
>
> Clear example. Talking about illegal MP3 files and how to use them
> etc is deemed bad. Talking about illegal drugs and how to use
> them/what they are like is not.
Having our site linking directly to MP3s or other illegal material holds us liable. Talking about the existence of MP3s does not. Likewise, if someone posted a link to a website selling drugs/drug paraphenalia then it would be removed, but a discussion about drug culture and the rights and wrongs of drug taking is fair game. Do you really want the forums to be nannied that much?
I haven't seen anyone advocating the use of drugs here. I've seen people admit to taking them, but that doesn't break the rules of the forum. It'd be the same as banning someone because they're chatting about how they nicked a pen from WHSmith when they were twelve. If I, or any chat moderator, sees a post that is unsuitable, then it'll be removed.
To be honest, I don't go through all the posts myself so I can't say there haven't been any, but chat moderators should pick up unsuitable stuff and remove it.
Mr Snuggly wrote:
> You'd also have to be pretty sick to suggest that someone is a waster
> because they intake a particular herb to ease untreatable physical
> pain. They're not harming anyone, it's a perfectly reasonable
> explanation, yet they're still a waster? Of course I don't actually
> wish a crippling disease on you, Jesus. It was light-hearted
> response to an idiotic statement. You can't just say dumb things
> like that and not expect a reaction, you clown. Stop tarring
> everyone with your Big Generalisation Brush™ and perhaps you
> won't incur the wrath of the people on this forum.
Okay then, if cannabis is the only thing that works for this un-named untreatable condition then why oh why has no company developed a legal drug equivalent eh? Nearly all drugs come from plants after all.
And yes you are a waster.
> And if driving at 46mph makes me a waster, then I guess I'm just a
> big ol' wasteroo. I've wasted my life, whatever am I to do etc.
Yeah you are. What makes you so special that you can do 46mph whilst other stick to the law eh? Come on, why can you break the law? More to the point where do you stop eh? Does your idea of how far you can break the law differ from someone elses? Of course it does. Hang on, if the law doesn't apply to you then why should it apply to me eh? You want to drive fast and take illegal drugs, I don't want to bother paying tax anymore please, you can pay mine for me because my insurance goes up when you whack into someone driving over the speed limit.
> You'd also have to be pretty sick to suggest that someone is a waster
> because they intake a particular herb to ease untreatable physical
> pain. They're not harming anyone, it's a perfectly reasonable
> explanation, yet they're still a waster? Of course I don't actually
> wish a crippling disease on you, Jesus. It was light-hearted
> response to an idiotic statement. You can't just say dumb things
> like that and not expect a reaction, you clown. Stop tarring
> everyone with your Big Generalisation Brush™ and perhaps you
> won't incur the wrath of the people on this forum.
Okay then, if cannabis is the only thing that works for this un-named untreatable condition then why oh why has no company developed a legal drug equivalent eh? Nearly all drugs come from plants after all.
And yes you are a waster.
> And if driving at 46mph makes me a waster, then I guess I'm just a
> big ol' wasteroo. I've wasted my life, whatever am I to do etc.
Yeah you are. What makes you so special that you can do 46mph whilst other stick to the law eh? Come on, why can you break the law? More to the point where do you stop eh? Does your idea of how far you can break the law differ from someone elses? Of course it does. Hang on, if the law doesn't apply to you then why should it apply to me eh? You want to drive fast and take illegal drugs, I don't want to bother paying tax anymore please, you can pay mine for me because my insurance goes up when you whack into someone driving over the speed limit.
Why not?
Why can't they enhance their enjoyment through some other means within the confines of the law?
Why can't they enhance their enjoyment through some other means within the confines of the law?
Insane Bartender wrote:
> People who can't enjoy themselves without resorting to mind altering
> drugs to do so, moreover, illegal drugs. Just to get a trip, these
> morons puff away in blatant contravention of the law.
Ever consider that perhaps these people can enjoy themselves through other means, but choose to enhance their enjoyment with their drug of choice? Sure, it's still against the law, but that doesn't mean you can tag everyone with the same label.
> People who can't enjoy themselves without resorting to mind altering
> drugs to do so, moreover, illegal drugs. Just to get a trip, these
> morons puff away in blatant contravention of the law.
Ever consider that perhaps these people can enjoy themselves through other means, but choose to enhance their enjoyment with their drug of choice? Sure, it's still against the law, but that doesn't mean you can tag everyone with the same label.
Insane Bartender wrote:
> Mr Snuggly wrote:
> So every time I hit 41mph in a 40mph zone, that turns me into a
> waster? It's not the same thing, but you did ask someone to fault
> your logic. So I did.
>
> I really don't unerstand what is so precious in your life that you
> would need to do deliberately break the law in this way. Are you the
> kind of person that complains when speed cameras are put up?
I don't deliberately break the law, it was an example which finds fault in Bell's oh-so watertight logic. And for the record, I think that people who complain about speed cameras are morons also.
> Mr Snuggly wrote:
> So every time I hit 41mph in a 40mph zone, that turns me into a
> waster? It's not the same thing, but you did ask someone to fault
> your logic. So I did.
>
> I really don't unerstand what is so precious in your life that you
> would need to do deliberately break the law in this way. Are you the
> kind of person that complains when speed cameras are put up?
I don't deliberately break the law, it was an example which finds fault in Bell's oh-so watertight logic. And for the record, I think that people who complain about speed cameras are morons also.
RoJ wrote:
> What a disagreeable young man.
No, you're another person who thinks the law is this multiple choice idea, break what suits you and enforce what suits you.
I mean, even SR rules for these forums prove that. If I were to make a topic discussing MP3 and movie downloads then I'd be warned/banned and the topic removed. Here we have people discussing actual experiences of Cannabis, and how to take it, yet the topic is here.
Clear example. Talking about illegal MP3 files and how to use them etc is deemed bad. Talking about illegal drugs and how to use them/what they are like is not.
> What a disagreeable young man.
No, you're another person who thinks the law is this multiple choice idea, break what suits you and enforce what suits you.
I mean, even SR rules for these forums prove that. If I were to make a topic discussing MP3 and movie downloads then I'd be warned/banned and the topic removed. Here we have people discussing actual experiences of Cannabis, and how to take it, yet the topic is here.
Clear example. Talking about illegal MP3 files and how to use them etc is deemed bad. Talking about illegal drugs and how to use them/what they are like is not.
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