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Wed 21/01/04 at 22:12
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Well, the drug is being (or has been) downgraded to class C. What does this mean? The government are keen to point out that it is still illegal, that those in possession will still be arrested.

On the news tonight, they used the phrase "Cannabis, a drug tens of thousands of people choose to smoke each week". I think they are seriously underestimating how widespread its use is. I wager everyone on here knows somebody who smokes it, I certainly do. Could decriminalizing the drug work in this country? There are huge benefits for the government in the way that it would free up a lot of police time, which could be used for catching those dealing/possessing harder drugs.

Is there any point whatsoever in downgrading the drug as they have done?

Do you have any views on the drug, or the questions I have asked above?
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Fri 23/01/04 at 22:11
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Yukikaze wrote:
> "Informed" is the word you are looking for. It's a fact
> that at 41 MPH in a 40MPH zone Snuggly, if stopped, would not be
> breaking the law unless he exceeded 44MPH.

He is breaking the law at 41MPH, it's just that the Police allow you 10% for speedometer error. But, 41MPH in a 40MPH zone is breaking the law.
Fri 23/01/04 at 22:09
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Having said that, although both are illeagal, I'd only call the stealing wrong...

If you know what I mean...


The law's good, but it's not perfect JUST yet. ;-)
Fri 23/01/04 at 22:08
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Yukikaze wrote:
> If Cannabis use is okay, then it it okay if I do 50 mph around a residential area?
> Because it's not harming anyone, and I know what I'm doing, honest.

No-one who has said they use cannabis in this thread has said it's okay - we all acknowledge that it's illegal. I. myself, have stated I smoke it for pain relief, but I have never said "So that makes it okay". In English_Bloke's thread titled "Police" I said:-

> As I've said in another thread, I smoke cannabis regularly to relieve
> pain. While a lot of people would agree with me doing this, it is
> against the law and if I was to ever get caught, I would accept any
> punishment because I know I was in the wrong. Yes, I'll be p***ed off
> at it happening, but I'll still accept it.
Fri 23/01/04 at 22:07
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Timmargh wrote:
> Yukikaze wrote:
> And whilst were dishing out insults, yes all three of you are
> wasters.
>
> It's illegal no matter what reason you have.
>
> Even as medication it's like saying "I'm broke so I'll go steal
> some money. It's okay because otherwise I'd have to work for it
> otherwise but then it'd take time and I'd get tired."
>
> You've lost me there. How is smoking cannabis for pain relief like
> stealing money?

Okay then, same sentence with words changed;

"I'm ill so I'll take this illegal drug. It's okay because otherwise I would be ill"

You also miss the other starkly obvious similarity.

Both are illegal no matter the reason.
Fri 23/01/04 at 22:07
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Timmargh wrote:
> Yukikaze wrote:
> And whilst were dishing out insults, yes all three of you are
> wasters.
>
> It's illegal no matter what reason you have.
>
> Even as medication it's like saying "I'm broke so I'll go steal
> some money. It's okay because otherwise I'd have to work for it
> otherwise but then it'd take time and I'd get tired."
>
> You've lost me there. How is smoking cannabis for pain relief like
> stealing money?

Okay then, same sentence with words changed;

"I'm ill so I'll take this illegal drug. It's okay because otherwise I would be ill"

You also miss the other starkly obvious similarity.

Both are illegal no matter the reason.
Fri 23/01/04 at 22:04
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Timmargh wrote:
> Can everyone say "pedantic" ?

"Informed" is the word you are looking for. It's a fact that at 41 MPH in a 40MPH zone Snuggly, if stopped, would not be breaking the law unless he exceeded 44MPH.
Fri 23/01/04 at 22:03
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Mr Snuggly wrote:
> So every time I hit 41mph in a 40mph zone, that turns me into a
> waster? It's not the same thing, but you did ask someone to fault
> your logic. So I did.

Yukikaze wrote:
> No, because you haven't broken the law.
>
> Speed limits can be exceeded by 10% of the stated total because of
> inconsistencies between speedometers on different makes of cars, same
> for speed cameras, most allow at least 10% before they are
> activated.


Can everyone say "pedantic" ?
Fri 23/01/04 at 22:00
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Yukikaze wrote:
> And whilst were dishing out insults, yes all three of you are
> wasters.
>
> It's illegal no matter what reason you have.
>
> Even as medication it's like saying "I'm broke so I'll go steal
> some money. It's okay because otherwise I'd have to work for it
> otherwise but then it'd take time and I'd get tired."

You've lost me there. How is smoking cannabis for pain relief like stealing money?
Fri 23/01/04 at 21:46
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Fine, I give up.
Fri 23/01/04 at 21:44
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RoJ wrote:
> Can be both..

Can't.

If you pulled a knob and sugar came out then fine.
If you pulled a nob and sugar came out...someone is going to need a creative story for the casualty department...
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