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Who agrees with the Death Penalty. I perosnally would like to see it come back for cases of Murder, Child molesering and so on. I know people say yo can get the wrong guy, but if complex detective worked is first carried out, I belive that all the Sickos should get fried! Whats you guys opinions?
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Incognito wrote:
>
> " Meaning
> The notion that for every wrong done there should be a
> compensating measure of justice.
> Origin
> From the Code of Hammurabi. Hammurabi was King of Babylon,
> 1792-1750BC. The code survives today in the Akkadian language. Used
> in The Bible, Matthew 5:38. 'Ye have heard that it hath been said, An
> eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth'."
Heh. It's amazing how many people don't realise that huge tracts of the Bible originated from Babylonian, Hittite, and Assyrian religious writings...
Have you got a full weblink for the code of Hammurabi by the way?
>
> " Meaning
> The notion that for every wrong done there should be a
> compensating measure of justice.
> Origin
> From the Code of Hammurabi. Hammurabi was King of Babylon,
> 1792-1750BC. The code survives today in the Akkadian language. Used
> in The Bible, Matthew 5:38. 'Ye have heard that it hath been said, An
> eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth'."
Heh. It's amazing how many people don't realise that huge tracts of the Bible originated from Babylonian, Hittite, and Assyrian religious writings...
Have you got a full weblink for the code of Hammurabi by the way?
That can never happen though. Need to exhaust all appeal procedures before you can execute = $$$. Yeah - but some kind of E4 sponsorship may help with the burden, and celebrity judges.
Dr Gonzo wrote:
> The Death Sentence will never be brought back for one simple reason –
> it’s too expensive. Courts already creak under the current caseload,
> adding thousands more hours per death sentence simply isn’t possible.
Not if as soon as a criminal was found guilty he/she was escorted straight to the masked executioner with his big sharp hatchet. Bang the gong and off with their heads, then pass it around the victim's relatives for morbid inspection... live on TV of course.
> The Death Sentence will never be brought back for one simple reason –
> it’s too expensive. Courts already creak under the current caseload,
> adding thousands more hours per death sentence simply isn’t possible.
Not if as soon as a criminal was found guilty he/she was escorted straight to the masked executioner with his big sharp hatchet. Bang the gong and off with their heads, then pass it around the victim's relatives for morbid inspection... live on TV of course.
G-Virus wrote:
many
> relgious people agree 23 becuase in the bible it says "An eye
> fro an eye and a tooth for a tooth" meaing that whatver you do,
> say kill someone, you get it doen back to you, ie: Get killed.
The bible doesn't say "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth". More fool everyone who believed you without even checking that one out.
from http://phrases.shu.ac.uk/meanings/31800.html :
" Meaning
The notion that for every wrong done there should be a compensating measure of justice.
Origin
From the Code of Hammurabi. Hammurabi was King of Babylon, 1792-1750BC. The code survives today in the Akkadian language. Used in The Bible, Matthew 5:38. 'Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth'."
many
> relgious people agree 23 becuase in the bible it says "An eye
> fro an eye and a tooth for a tooth" meaing that whatver you do,
> say kill someone, you get it doen back to you, ie: Get killed.
The bible doesn't say "An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth". More fool everyone who believed you without even checking that one out.
from http://phrases.shu.ac.uk/meanings/31800.html :
" Meaning
The notion that for every wrong done there should be a compensating measure of justice.
Origin
From the Code of Hammurabi. Hammurabi was King of Babylon, 1792-1750BC. The code survives today in the Akkadian language. Used in The Bible, Matthew 5:38. 'Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth'."
Emperor Xerxes wrote:
> -We have a big brother state; even then it doesn't stop the WANT tp
> murder
Xerxes meant by 'tp' the word 'to'.
That should help clarify things.
> -We have a big brother state; even then it doesn't stop the WANT tp
> murder
Xerxes meant by 'tp' the word 'to'.
That should help clarify things.
Light wrote:
> Emperor Xerxes wrote:
>
>
> Murder is something that seems to be universal in all cultures, the
> only way you would fully stop it is with mind control. Which could
> happen.
>
> Less than 4000 years ago Human and Animal Sacrifice was universal to
> all cultures. It isn't now. Things can change; never assume that just
> cos something always has been, that it always will be.
Your point has been noted. What you are saying is true. However, I believe that sacrifice was a part of Religion, whereas the capacity for murder is a more primal instinct. If you could get a perfect society where everyone is happy then maybe murder would end. However, society will never be able to account for all forms of human unhappiness and control all deviences unless;
-We evolve to a whole new level.
-We have a big brother state; even then it doesn't stop the WANT tp murder
-We build the PERFECT society; but humans are not perfect
-We use chips or mind control (see RA2 Yuris Revenge)
Nethertheless Xerxes is against the death penalty simply because it is so hard to prove things definatly and people could abuse the system.
In the 19th Century era, in Imperial Britian, the Death Penalty was ascribed to most crimes, including petty ones such as stealing from a production yard. What happened is interesting; few people were actually convicted purely because the jury LET the criminals off not because they thought they were innocent but because they thought the death penalty was to severe.
Not that any of you have been suggesting bringing back the death penalty for most crimes but even in the case of proven DNA it is not full proof. Why could someone not take a sample and frame someone or some tired lab worker mix some up or contaminate something.
That will be all.
> Emperor Xerxes wrote:
>
>
> Murder is something that seems to be universal in all cultures, the
> only way you would fully stop it is with mind control. Which could
> happen.
>
> Less than 4000 years ago Human and Animal Sacrifice was universal to
> all cultures. It isn't now. Things can change; never assume that just
> cos something always has been, that it always will be.
Your point has been noted. What you are saying is true. However, I believe that sacrifice was a part of Religion, whereas the capacity for murder is a more primal instinct. If you could get a perfect society where everyone is happy then maybe murder would end. However, society will never be able to account for all forms of human unhappiness and control all deviences unless;
-We evolve to a whole new level.
-We have a big brother state; even then it doesn't stop the WANT tp murder
-We build the PERFECT society; but humans are not perfect
-We use chips or mind control (see RA2 Yuris Revenge)
Nethertheless Xerxes is against the death penalty simply because it is so hard to prove things definatly and people could abuse the system.
In the 19th Century era, in Imperial Britian, the Death Penalty was ascribed to most crimes, including petty ones such as stealing from a production yard. What happened is interesting; few people were actually convicted purely because the jury LET the criminals off not because they thought they were innocent but because they thought the death penalty was to severe.
Not that any of you have been suggesting bringing back the death penalty for most crimes but even in the case of proven DNA it is not full proof. Why could someone not take a sample and frame someone or some tired lab worker mix some up or contaminate something.
That will be all.
The Death Sentence will never be brought back for one simple reason – it’s too expensive. Courts already creak under the current caseload, adding thousands more hours per death sentence simply isn’t possible. Frightfully practical, but unfortunately it’s also what counts in these kinds of decisions.
It also sends out worrying messages about our society; firstly, that brutal, base, animal-like acts are our way of dealing with anger (as anger is the only motivation here), and that people cannot be redeemed. Once a murderer does not always mean always a murderer.
It also sends out worrying messages about our society; firstly, that brutal, base, animal-like acts are our way of dealing with anger (as anger is the only motivation here), and that people cannot be redeemed. Once a murderer does not always mean always a murderer.
All I will say is from something I read somewhere: How do you know if you're punishing those you killed, or doing them a favour?
Emperor Xerxes wrote:
>
> Murder is something that seems to be universal in all cultures, the
> only way you would fully stop it is with mind control. Which could
> happen.
Less than 4000 years ago Human and Animal Sacrifice was universal to all cultures. It isn't now. Things can change; never assume that just cos something always has been, that it always will be.
>
> Murder is something that seems to be universal in all cultures, the
> only way you would fully stop it is with mind control. Which could
> happen.
Less than 4000 years ago Human and Animal Sacrifice was universal to all cultures. It isn't now. Things can change; never assume that just cos something always has been, that it always will be.
Murder could be abolished simply if society re-evolved itself from something like a tree, that has no thoughts to kill another member of its own species.
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