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Mon 16/06/03 at 11:32
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Saw this brough up in another thread. Out of respect for that thread (if you know which one you'll understand) I've put the topic here instead.

What troubles me about 9/11 is that if it had happened to some financial building in Africa. The coverage wouldn't have been anything like it was.
i have summed it up to people before and they have agreed that it been considered an even worse crime because:

A bunch of rich, white Americans died.


They are somehow more important than other people in the world.
This sickens me and lessens my sympathy for America.

Obviously I'm generalising but I think my point is clear.
Tue 17/06/03 at 13:39
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The more scared people get the angrier they get. It makes great propaganda and that is one of the greatest weapons you can ever have.
Tue 17/06/03 at 12:09
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DébUK wrote:

> However, it doesn't make sense in some ways- shouldn't America have
> WANTED to blame this on terrorists to make even more grounds for the
> 'war on terrorism'- very confusing!

The panic would've been overwhelming if, after implementing measures to stop terrorists, the terrorists had no problem carrying on. If they'd blamed it on terrorists they would have made their preventions look pointless and make a lot of people very scared.
Tue 17/06/03 at 11:59
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And remember, there was a plane that crashed in the Queens area of New York soon after Sept 11th. America claimed it was unrelated to Sept 11th and was an accident.

Bit of a coincidence that a plane should crash in NY so soon afterwards. A cover-up anyone?

However, it doesn't make sense in some ways- shouldn't America have WANTED to blame this on terrorists to make even more grounds for the 'war on terrorism'- very confusing!
Tue 17/06/03 at 09:41
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Well the fuirst two fighter planes (called to the trade) arrived on time. The plane heading for the pentagon was somthing like 12 minutes late, you want to know why? It was busy blowing up a plane that was feared to be headed for the white house.
Tue 17/06/03 at 01:24
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Everyone has missed the most obvious point.

Hedfix said that there would not be as much coverage had it been a building in Africa. But that is only hypothetical. Because fact is, America was hit because the Muslim extremists hate America. They don't hate Africa. It just won't happen.

The WTC was the single biggest icon, symbol of prosperity in America. There is no equal in Africa.
Tue 17/06/03 at 01:20
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i would like to know how america didnt know about 9/11 before hand. now i don't agree with mos of these conspiracy theories (www.whatreallyhappened.com) BUT why weren't fighter jets scrambled after the first plane hit?
Mon 16/06/03 at 23:00
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Lindgren wrote:
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> Before that, the most distressing scenes I'd scene on T.V. was of
> Hillsborough, but obviously that isn't related to this topic.

I saw a similar thing happen in footage from America. It was spring break everyone in the crowd was pretty wasted and they ALL wanted to congratulate their team at once. Not a pretty sight: a lot of hurt people.
Mon 16/06/03 at 22:52
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Skorp1on wrote:
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> Remember the first war televised?

No I don't remember. I wasn't born yet! Never saw pictures of it either. The earliest conflict I remember seeing pictures of was the first Gulf War.

Before that, the most distressing scenes I'd scene on T.V. was of Hillsborough, but obviously that isn't related to this topic.
Mon 16/06/03 at 22:34
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Lindgren wrote:
>> I know I will never forget seeing the second tower collapse live on
> Sky One, nor will I ever forget seeing the people jumping out of the
> towers to their death. I think these images are a reason why the event
> was met with such shock around the world. We were seeing people die
> live on air. Something like that has never been on out T.V. screens
> with such a personal note before, and I hope it never is again.
>
Remember the first war televised? Vietnam, really nasty, sick and disturbing stuff was broadcast from there live, I think for the first time for about 100 years (since WW1) a lot of people learned that war isn't all glorious and heroic. People saw other innocent people, just like them, getting napalmed in the streets where they lived. Like I said before, this wasn't really understood until Jessie Pope's views were challenged by people like Wilfred Owen in world war 1. If you look at the Iraq war on TV recently, all you could see was planes flying over and explosions, and, although I admit there were very few civilian casualties, they don't show you the pictures of people being blown apart.
Mon 16/06/03 at 22:15
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All good points. I didn't want to cause anyone any anger over this. It was a hypothetical 'what if' post. I generalised because I didn't want to have the 'political correctness' get in the way of the point I was trying to make, which it easily can if you have to second guess everything you say for the sake of being PC.

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