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"The one and only, I'm buying one at launch thread :D."

Well, I am, the price of the pack with everything you need convinced me and it'll be even less if I go somwhere who will take my old Xbox against the price, i.e. Game ;).

The PS3 has already had the in-built router function removed from it to reduce costs, I can't see anything other than what was announced at E3 being included, and maybe even more reductions.

Hopefully thosee wont end up affecting preformance.

It also has to be said that the PS3 pad looks absolute nonsense compared to the dual shock resembling 360 affair :).

Those surely won't be the final PS3 pads...

I imagine they'll go for a more technologically advanced DualShock 2 design...

Keep the layout, curve it a bit more...

That pad at E3 might go down well in Australia, but not anywhere else.

As for your 'All-In-One-Home-Entertainment' comment, Brucey; you won't get anywhere near as good a 5.1 experience through the 360 DVD player with the amp and 5.1 setup as you would from a stand alone top quality DVD player (£1000) with a decent amp (£1000) and some quality speakers (£1500)...

Having said that, the 360 DVD player should be of decent quality... just not exceptional. But then you Scots dont do anything exceptional...

Other than invent things.... like the TV.... penecillin.... and... oh, I'll be quiet.

Game wrote:
> DVD player (£1000)

Who'd spend £1000 on a DVD player?

Someone who spends far too much cash on gadgets and not enough on going out and getting laid I should think.

Or people that appreciate true quality sound, don't give people date-rape pills and don't wish to contract syphillis and/or AIDS.

Haha....

Seriously, though... DVD, Games, Music, Football, GOlf > Sex, Drink

It'd have to be gold plated to cost that much.

Thinking about it, it is a bit costly. Well I'll see.

Do you get the wi-fi thing then with the more expensive pack? If so I'm sold.

Dringo wrote:
> Thinking about it, it is a bit costly. Well I'll see.
>
> Do you get the wi-fi thing then with the more expensive pack? If so
> I'm sold.

The Wi-fi pad you do, but the adaptor no..it's £60..which is very expensive..I'll just plug it into my router..It will only be required for people using their 360 away from their modem/router, if you are close you may as well use the supplied cable.

I am a very long way from my modem and i have a wireless router.

Pre-ordered a 360 today at Gamestation, gonna get the premium pack. I was intending to pay around £300 anyway, so £280 is actually a bonus.

I got a 360 magazine as well, with a release shedule for the games. According to that, Elder Scrolls IV is gonna be a launch title. That'll keep me going until Saints Row.