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I have something to say to all you non-God types..
1. God does exsist, He created you, He can destroy you
2. Ya know the 'Big Bang' theory? Me and my mom belive it, So? What if God made noise while he created Earth, no one is silent
3. Why are you even bringing this subject up? It's pointless and you'll never win...
-God Bless, I'm prayin' for ya!
PS:God exists, you know it! Don't deny it! He has done something for you in the past so be thankfull there is a God
taken from: letssingit.com
1. God does exsist, He created you, He can destroy you
2. Ya know the 'Big Bang' theory? Me and my mom belive it, So? What if God made noise while he created Earth, no one is silent
3. Why are you even bringing this subject up? It's pointless and you'll never win...
-God Bless, I'm prayin' for ya!
PS:God exists, you know it! Don't deny it! He has done something for you in the past so be thankfull there is a God
taken from: letssingit.com
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Rosalind wrote:
> There is proof however of natural selection. The only question
> remaining is could natural selection have had such a huge effect over
> a massive time span. Logic dictates to me that this is certainly
> possible and should in no way be ruled out in such a blase manner.
Without starting this all over again, I just want to point out that I am fine with the idea of natural selection - some species do survive better than others simply due to circumstances etc.
Its the whole mutating/evolving of one species into another I am dubious of, let alone on such a grand scale.
> There is proof however of natural selection. The only question
> remaining is could natural selection have had such a huge effect over
> a massive time span. Logic dictates to me that this is certainly
> possible and should in no way be ruled out in such a blase manner.
Without starting this all over again, I just want to point out that I am fine with the idea of natural selection - some species do survive better than others simply due to circumstances etc.
Its the whole mutating/evolving of one species into another I am dubious of, let alone on such a grand scale.
Gangsta Hamsta wrote:
> When 'God pops down for a week'(mendax) though, I'm getting straight
> on here with an 'I told you so' post ;-)
When god pops dopwn for a week, I'll be more than happy to eat my shoes and admit that I was very sceptical of his existance.
> When 'God pops down for a week'(mendax) though, I'm getting straight
> on here with an 'I told you so' post ;-)
When god pops dopwn for a week, I'll be more than happy to eat my shoes and admit that I was very sceptical of his existance.
Heh, as someone said (Goaty?), only time will tell.
At least everyone is happy enough with what they believe in to argue about it :-)
When 'God pops down for a week'(mendax) though, I'm getting straight on here with an 'I told you so' post ;-)
At least everyone is happy enough with what they believe in to argue about it :-)
When 'God pops down for a week'(mendax) though, I'm getting straight on here with an 'I told you so' post ;-)
Gangsta Hamsta wrote:
> I would believe in evolution if there were proof. And there is not.
> They constantly talk about 'the missing link' etc and claim to have
> found different proof. I have read reports and books by the most well
> recognised scientists and the world and all admit there is no proof
> for evolution.
You have read reports and books by the most well known scientists, yet you refer to the 'missing link'.
There is no one 'missing link, what there is is a series of gaps in the fossil record of human evolution.
There is proof however of natural selection. The only question remaining is could natural selection have had such a huge effect over a massive time span. Logic dictates to me that this is certainly possible and should in no way be ruled out in such a blase manner.
My policy is to keep an open mind.
> I would believe in evolution if there were proof. And there is not.
> They constantly talk about 'the missing link' etc and claim to have
> found different proof. I have read reports and books by the most well
> recognised scientists and the world and all admit there is no proof
> for evolution.
You have read reports and books by the most well known scientists, yet you refer to the 'missing link'.
There is no one 'missing link, what there is is a series of gaps in the fossil record of human evolution.
There is proof however of natural selection. The only question remaining is could natural selection have had such a huge effect over a massive time span. Logic dictates to me that this is certainly possible and should in no way be ruled out in such a blase manner.
My policy is to keep an open mind.
Gangsta Hamsta wrote:
> Then out of this great explosion, life is meant to to 'appear'?
> Ok, I have no proof it didn't happen, I just find it easier to believe
> we were created
Now I don't want to offend you by saying this, though I think I might anyway so I'm sorry, but
The way I see it, is that the bible and religion was written for people who need answers to get on with their lives without worrying where they came from or why they are here.
Saying that though, I'm glad you got the answers you needed. People can waste away their life looking for those answers. If you can accept the words of a book to be true, then that's fine with me. I'm personally not going to believe it though.
> Then out of this great explosion, life is meant to to 'appear'?
> Ok, I have no proof it didn't happen, I just find it easier to believe
> we were created
Now I don't want to offend you by saying this, though I think I might anyway so I'm sorry, but
The way I see it, is that the bible and religion was written for people who need answers to get on with their lives without worrying where they came from or why they are here.
Saying that though, I'm glad you got the answers you needed. People can waste away their life looking for those answers. If you can accept the words of a book to be true, then that's fine with me. I'm personally not going to believe it though.
Gangsta Hamsta wrote:
> Thats not why I dismiss the theory - this part is entirely plausible.
> The bit I refuse to believe is where each of those 'tiny pieces'
> develop their own atmosphere, gravitational field, orbits etc.
OK Einstein, EVERY mass has a gravitational presence, the greater the mass, the greater the gravitational forces it creates. Over a few billion years as all these bodies fly about, their grvitational influences cause them to slingshot around eachother, eventually settling into orbits, see?
> Then out of this great explosion, life is meant to to 'appear'?
> Ok, I have no proof it didn't happen, I just find it easier to believe
> we were created
Sure, if you take comfort in it, by all means believe it. But when choosing between some impossibly powerful being deciding to shape a life on a whim for entertainment, or being created by a slightly complicated chain of events to which we do not yet have all the pieces of the puzzle, I know where I put my "faith".
But like you say, there is no proof, and until either some scientist screams "eureka" and comes up with both all the pieces of the evolutionary puzzle and a foolproof way to test and prove evolution, or God pops down for a week in the city to show his face, the jury will always be out on the subject.
> Thats not why I dismiss the theory - this part is entirely plausible.
> The bit I refuse to believe is where each of those 'tiny pieces'
> develop their own atmosphere, gravitational field, orbits etc.
OK Einstein, EVERY mass has a gravitational presence, the greater the mass, the greater the gravitational forces it creates. Over a few billion years as all these bodies fly about, their grvitational influences cause them to slingshot around eachother, eventually settling into orbits, see?
> Then out of this great explosion, life is meant to to 'appear'?
> Ok, I have no proof it didn't happen, I just find it easier to believe
> we were created
Sure, if you take comfort in it, by all means believe it. But when choosing between some impossibly powerful being deciding to shape a life on a whim for entertainment, or being created by a slightly complicated chain of events to which we do not yet have all the pieces of the puzzle, I know where I put my "faith".
But like you say, there is no proof, and until either some scientist screams "eureka" and comes up with both all the pieces of the evolutionary puzzle and a foolproof way to test and prove evolution, or God pops down for a week in the city to show his face, the jury will always be out on the subject.
Beliefs.
That's all it is. And those that place blind faith in science are just as deluded as the fundamentalists that bang on about God being the only explanation.
The problem is, we are arrogant enough to believe that we are at the pinnacle of our understanding of the Universe.
200 years ago, we all *knew* the world was flat. We all *knew* the earth was the center of the universe and that the sun revolved around us.
It was either Gallileo or Copernicus that was placed under house arrest by The Church for suggesting otherwise.
And when Stephen Hawkin met The Pope, he was forbidden from discussing the Big Bang theory.
We are stupid apes,floundering in our own ignorance. Just because we think we know it all know, 200 years from now we'll look back and laugh at we take to be the truth.
Religion doesn't know. Science doesn't know.
It's just 1 person believing in what they think is the best for them.
The problem occurs when either side decides that their version is correct and the only possible explanation.
I dont know, you dont know, Stephen Hawkin doesn't know, The Pope doesn't know.
That's all it is. And those that place blind faith in science are just as deluded as the fundamentalists that bang on about God being the only explanation.
The problem is, we are arrogant enough to believe that we are at the pinnacle of our understanding of the Universe.
200 years ago, we all *knew* the world was flat. We all *knew* the earth was the center of the universe and that the sun revolved around us.
It was either Gallileo or Copernicus that was placed under house arrest by The Church for suggesting otherwise.
And when Stephen Hawkin met The Pope, he was forbidden from discussing the Big Bang theory.
We are stupid apes,floundering in our own ignorance. Just because we think we know it all know, 200 years from now we'll look back and laugh at we take to be the truth.
Religion doesn't know. Science doesn't know.
It's just 1 person believing in what they think is the best for them.
The problem occurs when either side decides that their version is correct and the only possible explanation.
I dont know, you dont know, Stephen Hawkin doesn't know, The Pope doesn't know.
Slaveunit wrote:
> Then why not have faith in the intellegence of this race to find the
> answers through science?
True, science has come a long way and helped a lot of things.
Tell me though, can you leave your house without locking the door? Can you walk out at night and feel you are safe?
My faith in humans resolving matters is long since dead
> Then why not have faith in the intellegence of this race to find the
> answers through science?
True, science has come a long way and helped a lot of things.
Tell me though, can you leave your house without locking the door? Can you walk out at night and feel you are safe?
My faith in humans resolving matters is long since dead
Mendax Bartender wrote:
> So, there was this huge mass, right, and it blew up into many smaller
> masses, like putting a firecracker into your closed fist and setting
> it off, how many different pieces of your hand will fall to the
> floor,, and how far apart will they be? Or will your hand just drop
> off all in one piece? Think about it.
Thats not why I dismiss the theory - this part is entirely plausible. The bit I refuse to believe is where each of those 'tiny pieces' develop their own atmosphere, gravitational field, orbits etc.
Then out of this great explosion, life is meant to to 'appear'?
Ok, I have no proof it didn't happen, I just find it easier to believe we were created
> So, there was this huge mass, right, and it blew up into many smaller
> masses, like putting a firecracker into your closed fist and setting
> it off, how many different pieces of your hand will fall to the
> floor,, and how far apart will they be? Or will your hand just drop
> off all in one piece? Think about it.
Thats not why I dismiss the theory - this part is entirely plausible. The bit I refuse to believe is where each of those 'tiny pieces' develop their own atmosphere, gravitational field, orbits etc.
Then out of this great explosion, life is meant to to 'appear'?
Ok, I have no proof it didn't happen, I just find it easier to believe we were created
Gangsta Hamsta wrote:
> I would believe in evolution if there were proof.
And where is your proof of God? Are you going to say "Faith"?
Then why not have faith in the intellegence of this race to find the answers through science?
> I would believe in evolution if there were proof.
And where is your proof of God? Are you going to say "Faith"?
Then why not have faith in the intellegence of this race to find the answers through science?
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