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Fact: It's not difficult to recruit Firemen. If they were given a big pay rise then that would be a cue for everybody else too. Taxes would rise dramatically and the economy would melt down. We would all be worse off.
I have two suggestions:
1. Train the armed forces to use up to date fire-fighting equipment and make it illegal for anybody to prevent the use of such equipment.
2. As Firemen have nothing to do except play darts for half their time, why not give them some more work. They could be the town watchers, pouring over cctv monitors to watch for traffic jams, fires and rowdy elements of society, and simply reporting events to the Police as necessary. That could be worth 5% on their pay. Of course they might have to be banned from doing second jobs during the day if they have to stay awake all night watching monitors.
These are exceptionally good and logical ideas. Maybe I should be a Governement adviser.
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I have two suggestions:
1. Train the armed forces to use up to date fire-fighting equipment and make it illegal for anybody to prevent the use of such equipment.
2. As Firemen have nothing to do except play darts for half their time, why not give them some more work. They could be the town watchers, pouring over cctv monitors to watch for traffic jams, fires and rowdy elements of society, and simply reporting events to the Police as necessary. That could be worth 5% on their pay. Of course they might have to be banned from doing second jobs during the day if they have to stay awake all night watching monitors.
These are exceptionally good and logical ideas. Maybe I should be a Governement adviser.
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Batman never sleeps.
You don't get up from your monitor screen and risk your life by going up against fire or pulling people from crashes?
Unless your Batman, but he's loaded
Unless your Batman, but he's loaded
Belldandy wrote:
> You're saying you'd make it possible for any strike to be broken up by the government and it's employees
That's not what I said. I'm talking about the use of essential emergency equipment such as fire engines. Plainly it should be illegal to hijack them.
> They spend their time at work on constant readiness
So they don't go to sleep on their night shifts then? What's the difference between getting up from a monitor screen and putting down your pool cue?
> You're saying you'd make it possible for any strike to be broken up by the government and it's employees
That's not what I said. I'm talking about the use of essential emergency equipment such as fire engines. Plainly it should be illegal to hijack them.
> They spend their time at work on constant readiness
So they don't go to sleep on their night shifts then? What's the difference between getting up from a monitor screen and putting down your pool cue?
Doughnut Monster wrote:
> Look at it this way, people who sit around in offices get paid
> sometimes 100'2 of thousands for doing nothing but pushing paper
> around.
>
> When our Firemen go out every day risking their lives, and what do
> they get paid? well it's laughable.
> They deserve the 40% pay rise.
>
> I say STRIKE!
My crystal ball says this person will get a massive reality shock at some time in the future.
> Look at it this way, people who sit around in offices get paid
> sometimes 100'2 of thousands for doing nothing but pushing paper
> around.
>
> When our Firemen go out every day risking their lives, and what do
> they get paid? well it's laughable.
> They deserve the 40% pay rise.
>
> I say STRIKE!
My crystal ball says this person will get a massive reality shock at some time in the future.
RM18 wrote:
> Yeah but Tony, they might spend half their time playing darts but they
> spend the other half saving lifes, and that alone is worth a pay rise.
People don't seem to understand the free market economy. Show me a company who pays their staff more than they need to (i.e. more than it takes to recruit decent staff). They would not be able to compete in their market and they would go bankrupt.
Wait until you can't afford your rent because of the extra tax you would be paying!
> Yeah but Tony, they might spend half their time playing darts but they
> spend the other half saving lifes, and that alone is worth a pay rise.
People don't seem to understand the free market economy. Show me a company who pays their staff more than they need to (i.e. more than it takes to recruit decent staff). They would not be able to compete in their market and they would go bankrupt.
Wait until you can't afford your rent because of the extra tax you would be paying!
For (firemen)
The work 3-14 hour shifts a week, equivelent to 42 hours a week.
They risk their lives to save other people.
They get paid crappy amounts
Against
Most of the time they aren't even working, only about 20% normally.
Most of their jobs don't actually involve fire, mainly road accidents
The salaries displayed show the amount paid to some of the newer workers, the experienced firemen get in the region of £50,000 - £70,000 a year. Normally.
From these results I am against the firemen
The work 3-14 hour shifts a week, equivelent to 42 hours a week.
They risk their lives to save other people.
They get paid crappy amounts
Against
Most of the time they aren't even working, only about 20% normally.
Most of their jobs don't actually involve fire, mainly road accidents
The salaries displayed show the amount paid to some of the newer workers, the experienced firemen get in the region of £50,000 - £70,000 a year. Normally.
From these results I am against the firemen
No, the list of affordable things I want for christmas is thin, and so I've dumped epII and LOTR SE on it.
That way, I get them free.
That way, I get them free.
Agreed.
Sorry if it got a tad "You smell and you dress funny", it's early and I need some nicotine.
You bought Episode 2 yet?
Sorry if it got a tad "You smell and you dress funny", it's early and I need some nicotine.
You bought Episode 2 yet?
Anyway, it's clear that you and I will never agree on this. You have some personal reason for sticking up for the firefighters, I don't.
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I'm not misguided at all. At the end of the day, I know how this crap with the firefighters is going to effect me.
In my pocket. I don't mind paying more for a service as the service improves, but suddenly paying 40% more for the same service is daylight robbery, it's almost comparable to a Sky subscription.
In my pocket. I don't mind paying more for a service as the service improves, but suddenly paying 40% more for the same service is daylight robbery, it's almost comparable to a Sky subscription.
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