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Just look at the facts...
It's is 3rd place in terms of units sold.
Jack & Daxter, and now Rachet & Clank illustrates that Sony ps2 is just as good at cartoon platform exploration as the Ninty Cube. Infact I have seen a few reports that put the Sony offering ahead of Nintendo.
The lack of a DVD movie player is a mistake for Ninty. The cube might be a bit cheaper, but most people will pay that bit extra to get a console that also plays dvd's. Ahh, some you already have a standalone dvd player in the house. True, but many games consoles are not connected to the main tv - they are used in a bedroom or ther room. PS2 and XBox provides these people with a handy 2nd dvd player in a different location. Both XBox and PS2 also use DVD for games which means the games can be much bigger compared with games on the GC.
Price fixing. Even though this only remarks on the last gen consoles, fact is it made it into the main news. This is not good, and is worse for Ninty since they have always pushed the idea that they are more fair, and are not like Sony or anyone else.
Ninty got the price wrong at launch. Nintendo have made a mistake in introducing the Cube at such a low price. Now that there have been price cuts for PS2 and XBox, people are looking to Ninty for a similar cut. But it wont happen until next year. With it's low price, Ninty need to shift lots of Cubes - which it is failing to do.
Uncertain future. While details for PS3 and XBox2 are not firm - and will change again before launch, at least we know that there will be a PS3 and XBox2. Ninty are much more uncertain. One day they say that this GameCube will be the last Ninty console. The next day they claim to be working on GameCube2, but then say that will be the last one. The only thing we can say for certain is that, whatever the market format is at that time, Ninty won't use it.
It's is 3rd place in terms of units sold.
Jack & Daxter, and now Rachet & Clank illustrates that Sony ps2 is just as good at cartoon platform exploration as the Ninty Cube. Infact I have seen a few reports that put the Sony offering ahead of Nintendo.
The lack of a DVD movie player is a mistake for Ninty. The cube might be a bit cheaper, but most people will pay that bit extra to get a console that also plays dvd's. Ahh, some you already have a standalone dvd player in the house. True, but many games consoles are not connected to the main tv - they are used in a bedroom or ther room. PS2 and XBox provides these people with a handy 2nd dvd player in a different location. Both XBox and PS2 also use DVD for games which means the games can be much bigger compared with games on the GC.
Price fixing. Even though this only remarks on the last gen consoles, fact is it made it into the main news. This is not good, and is worse for Ninty since they have always pushed the idea that they are more fair, and are not like Sony or anyone else.
Ninty got the price wrong at launch. Nintendo have made a mistake in introducing the Cube at such a low price. Now that there have been price cuts for PS2 and XBox, people are looking to Ninty for a similar cut. But it wont happen until next year. With it's low price, Ninty need to shift lots of Cubes - which it is failing to do.
Uncertain future. While details for PS3 and XBox2 are not firm - and will change again before launch, at least we know that there will be a PS3 and XBox2. Ninty are much more uncertain. One day they say that this GameCube will be the last Ninty console. The next day they claim to be working on GameCube2, but then say that will be the last one. The only thing we can say for certain is that, whatever the market format is at that time, Ninty won't use it.
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Cubist wrote:
> ok were did you get that statistic? and why did you type
> "M$" not MS?
It's just pointing out their obsession with getting maximum money at all costs...
I won't do it again as it takes to long to find the little sod on the keyboard!
I'll find the site again, I was reading about it...
> ok were did you get that statistic? and why did you type
> "M$" not MS?
It's just pointing out their obsession with getting maximum money at all costs...
I won't do it again as it takes to long to find the little sod on the keyboard!
I'll find the site again, I was reading about it...
phi11ip wrote:
> You're an idiot!
>
> Can't you see you've lost the arguement yet?
>
> M$ own over 90% of the market!
>
> Tehy bought out nearly ever competitor except from a few which managed
> to get a hold like Linux and Unix...
ok were did you get that statistic? and why did you type "M$" not MS?
> You're an idiot!
>
> Can't you see you've lost the arguement yet?
>
> M$ own over 90% of the market!
>
> Tehy bought out nearly ever competitor except from a few which managed
> to get a hold like Linux and Unix...
ok were did you get that statistic? and why did you type "M$" not MS?
> £30 for a 8Mb memory Card (Speaks for itself)
>
>
> No. It's an 8 MB card, unlike the GC's 4Mb card. There are 8 megabits
> in a megabyte, so the GC's card is in fact a lot smaller than the
> PS2's card. A lot less than half the size, for half the price.
And yet the 16MB Nintendo Memory Card is only £24.99. So you have to pay £56 to match the amount of memory on the Playstation 2.
>
>
> No. It's an 8 MB card, unlike the GC's 4Mb card. There are 8 megabits
> in a megabyte, so the GC's card is in fact a lot smaller than the
> PS2's card. A lot less than half the size, for half the price.
And yet the 16MB Nintendo Memory Card is only £24.99. So you have to pay £56 to match the amount of memory on the Playstation 2.
No offence Tom but you could have summed that up without all that quoted material. It is fan boy like and it is bias but hey when Nintendo goes down the tubes I will laugh and say "Told you so" andall will be well with the world.
You're an idiot!
Can't you see you've lost the arguement yet?
M$ own over 90% of the market!
Tehy bought out nearly ever competitor except from a few which managed to get a hold like Linux and Unix...
Can't you see you've lost the arguement yet?
M$ own over 90% of the market!
Tehy bought out nearly ever competitor except from a few which managed to get a hold like Linux and Unix...
What you have written seems to be even more biast and fanboyish than the original post! Let me clear up a few things for you.
Parr wrote:
>
> PS2
>
> Only 2 controller ports (ok you can splash out on £20 worth to
> get an adapter)
>
Ok. Agreed, it was a bit stupid to only have 2 controller ports, however if you spend the money, the option to upgrade *is* there. Also, the PS2 has 2 USB ports which can be used for controllers, such as the G-Con II gun and the force feedback steering wheel.
> Crappy DVD Player
I thought you said below that DVD players don't matter. Hence, the Gamecube doesn't have one.
"No DVD Player (That is why they call it a GAMES CONSOLE)"
>
> A Huge selection of CRAP games (very few good ones)
And your proof is? I consider the likes of GT3, MGS2, GTA3, GTAVC, Pro Evo, Stuntman, Jak and Daxter e.t.c. to be a very good line up. The reason it has quite a few rubbish games is because it has more games in total, so just by a ratio of good games to bad, it will have more rubbish games than the GC.
>
> Tiny appeal to the under 12's
Proof? The PS2 has a lot of games for children, my uncle was even considering buying one once for his 4 year old son.
>
> £30 for a 8Mb memory Card (Speaks for itself)
>
No. It's an 8 MB card, unlike the GC's 4Mb card. There are 8 megabits in a megabyte, so the GC's card is in fact a lot smaller than the PS2's card. A lot less than half the size, for half the price.
> Still the highest priced console
You get what you pay for.
>
> A highly unoriginal name
Are you trying to tell me 'Gamecube' is original?
>
> Looks horible
Based on opinion.
>
> Only comes in one colour (means you can't get a different one to you
> mates and look alittle more unique)
And that matters because? Going into the choice of colours is a very weak argument. What if I don't like purple or black?
>
> If you stand it up one half of the CD tray motor will burn out quicker
> and it will not open very well (although this doe take time)
I'm sure that's a lot less damage than what would happen if you tried to turn your GC on it's side. Again, a weak argument.
>
> You cannot get your disc out when the power is off
Well then, turn it on - Genius!
>
> X-Box:
>
> Too big
>
No. I'm sure my TV is a lot bigger, I can easily fit it in my room, under the TV or on my desk. Brilliant! VCR's are bigger.
> Pointless Hard Drive
No! It is FAR from pointless, honestly in all my time on these forums, I don't think I've ever heard a comment as biast, moronic and totally ignorant as that. The hard drive is used for storing games (obviously), it is also used for buffering (meaning the likes of Halo have virtually no loading times during levels) and it can also be used for unique aspects of games, such as Blinx and his time controlling ability. Also, using Xbox Live, you'll be able to download extra tracks, cars, characters, costumes e.t.c onto your Xbox hardrive. In summary: You're an idiot.
>
> Does not appeale to the under 12's
Depends what you mean by 'appeal'. However, have you any proof that people under 12 don't like the Xbox? I presume you are, in fact, yourself under 12. Hence you don't like the Xbox. Hence you wrote that.
>
> Controller too big for those with small hands
Controller 'S'.
>
> Was too expensive and now the price drops have made it look like it
> isn't worth buying (I mean why buy something now when it tends to go
> down in price every 3 months)
So price drops are a bad thing now? Funny, I always associated a drop in price as a good thing for the consumer. Computers drop heavily in prices, probably more than the Xbox. Does that mean the common PC is going to fail? I think not.
>
> Poor DVD Player that requires you to spend money on an add on
Again, I thought DVD players didn't matter, as it was meant to be a 'games console'. You're a very hypocritical chimp, aren't you?
>
> Does that make you feel any better? Oh wait now I must write about the
> Gamecube!
Go ahead.
>
> Gamecube:
>
> No DVD Player (That is why they call it a GAMES CONSOLE)
Hmm, I think I've mentioned this comment enough.
>
> Small Discs (People might lose them) PAH!
Do I detect a hint of sarcasm? I've always thought the argument against small disks wasn't that people lose them (no one's that stupid!) but that they hold very little compared to what is needed by quite a few developers in the next-gen world, and that changing disks could become very annoying now and in the future. But if you think that it's because people lose them, far be it from me to argue with you.
>
> Have to buy Memory Cards (Big Wow £15 for an 8Mb official one)
£15 for an 8megabit (I always thought it was 4mb...) card is actually very expensive when you compare it to Xbox and PS2's 8megabyte cards. But then, with little computer knowledge (by what you've shown) I doubt you'd know that.
>
> i hope that will shut you up!
Quite the opposite.
Parr wrote:
>
> PS2
>
> Only 2 controller ports (ok you can splash out on £20 worth to
> get an adapter)
>
Ok. Agreed, it was a bit stupid to only have 2 controller ports, however if you spend the money, the option to upgrade *is* there. Also, the PS2 has 2 USB ports which can be used for controllers, such as the G-Con II gun and the force feedback steering wheel.
> Crappy DVD Player
I thought you said below that DVD players don't matter. Hence, the Gamecube doesn't have one.
"No DVD Player (That is why they call it a GAMES CONSOLE)"
>
> A Huge selection of CRAP games (very few good ones)
And your proof is? I consider the likes of GT3, MGS2, GTA3, GTAVC, Pro Evo, Stuntman, Jak and Daxter e.t.c. to be a very good line up. The reason it has quite a few rubbish games is because it has more games in total, so just by a ratio of good games to bad, it will have more rubbish games than the GC.
>
> Tiny appeal to the under 12's
Proof? The PS2 has a lot of games for children, my uncle was even considering buying one once for his 4 year old son.
>
> £30 for a 8Mb memory Card (Speaks for itself)
>
No. It's an 8 MB card, unlike the GC's 4Mb card. There are 8 megabits in a megabyte, so the GC's card is in fact a lot smaller than the PS2's card. A lot less than half the size, for half the price.
> Still the highest priced console
You get what you pay for.
>
> A highly unoriginal name
Are you trying to tell me 'Gamecube' is original?
>
> Looks horible
Based on opinion.
>
> Only comes in one colour (means you can't get a different one to you
> mates and look alittle more unique)
And that matters because? Going into the choice of colours is a very weak argument. What if I don't like purple or black?
>
> If you stand it up one half of the CD tray motor will burn out quicker
> and it will not open very well (although this doe take time)
I'm sure that's a lot less damage than what would happen if you tried to turn your GC on it's side. Again, a weak argument.
>
> You cannot get your disc out when the power is off
Well then, turn it on - Genius!
>
> X-Box:
>
> Too big
>
No. I'm sure my TV is a lot bigger, I can easily fit it in my room, under the TV or on my desk. Brilliant! VCR's are bigger.
> Pointless Hard Drive
No! It is FAR from pointless, honestly in all my time on these forums, I don't think I've ever heard a comment as biast, moronic and totally ignorant as that. The hard drive is used for storing games (obviously), it is also used for buffering (meaning the likes of Halo have virtually no loading times during levels) and it can also be used for unique aspects of games, such as Blinx and his time controlling ability. Also, using Xbox Live, you'll be able to download extra tracks, cars, characters, costumes e.t.c onto your Xbox hardrive. In summary: You're an idiot.
>
> Does not appeale to the under 12's
Depends what you mean by 'appeal'. However, have you any proof that people under 12 don't like the Xbox? I presume you are, in fact, yourself under 12. Hence you don't like the Xbox. Hence you wrote that.
>
> Controller too big for those with small hands
Controller 'S'.
>
> Was too expensive and now the price drops have made it look like it
> isn't worth buying (I mean why buy something now when it tends to go
> down in price every 3 months)
So price drops are a bad thing now? Funny, I always associated a drop in price as a good thing for the consumer. Computers drop heavily in prices, probably more than the Xbox. Does that mean the common PC is going to fail? I think not.
>
> Poor DVD Player that requires you to spend money on an add on
Again, I thought DVD players didn't matter, as it was meant to be a 'games console'. You're a very hypocritical chimp, aren't you?
>
> Does that make you feel any better? Oh wait now I must write about the
> Gamecube!
Go ahead.
>
> Gamecube:
>
> No DVD Player (That is why they call it a GAMES CONSOLE)
Hmm, I think I've mentioned this comment enough.
>
> Small Discs (People might lose them) PAH!
Do I detect a hint of sarcasm? I've always thought the argument against small disks wasn't that people lose them (no one's that stupid!) but that they hold very little compared to what is needed by quite a few developers in the next-gen world, and that changing disks could become very annoying now and in the future. But if you think that it's because people lose them, far be it from me to argue with you.
>
> Have to buy Memory Cards (Big Wow £15 for an 8Mb official one)
£15 for an 8megabit (I always thought it was 4mb...) card is actually very expensive when you compare it to Xbox and PS2's 8megabyte cards. But then, with little computer knowledge (by what you've shown) I doubt you'd know that.
>
> i hope that will shut you up!
Quite the opposite.
It isn't illegal as long as they don't take over to much of the market they are allowed up to 49% of any market before it becomes illegal. Anyway it is sensible it is legal and it is still the cheapest console around to buy and to run end of story
What's the difference in monopolising the market or keeping prices high to make money?
At the end of the day, the price fixing Nintendo did doesn't bother me. I never paid the artificially high prices, I wasn't stupid enough to. If you were, that's your fault.
Anyway, Nintendo have accepted what's happened and have moved on. Shame you can't.
At the end of the day, the price fixing Nintendo did doesn't bother me. I never paid the artificially high prices, I wasn't stupid enough to. If you were, that's your fault.
Anyway, Nintendo have accepted what's happened and have moved on. Shame you can't.
But buying up competition and so forcing their own policies upon a market, and not letting anybody else do anything is okay?
Ooo! Good. Lets all say thats fair shall we. Monopolising may be sensible, but it is illegal in many respects.
Ooo! Good. Lets all say thats fair shall we. Monopolising may be sensible, but it is illegal in many respects.
What Microsoft was doing is ILLEGAL!
You can't merge with EVERY company in the interests of becomming a monopoly!
Small companies had NO CHOICE!
"Merge or lose," was the option given to them!
You can't merge with EVERY company in the interests of becomming a monopoly!
Small companies had NO CHOICE!
"Merge or lose," was the option given to them!
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