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I am interested in the above subject
and am wondering how you would go about starting out in this field. I am just completing a degree in computers, so have a very good background in the whole subject, just sod all experience in journalism.
perhaps applying to review on websites or something would be best?
I only ask, as apart from the multimedia side of computers (websites - sound processing - video editing), there aren't many other jobs in computing I can see myself doing for any length of time (programming, network administration etc). Computer games have always been a passion.
Any input would be sweet.
Lader
and am wondering how you would go about starting out in this field. I am just completing a degree in computers, so have a very good background in the whole subject, just sod all experience in journalism.
perhaps applying to review on websites or something would be best?
I only ask, as apart from the multimedia side of computers (websites - sound processing - video editing), there aren't many other jobs in computing I can see myself doing for any length of time (programming, network administration etc). Computer games have always been a passion.
Any input would be sweet.
Lader
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The people who write for NOM have qualifications?
El Blokey wrote:
> You're missing the point. You know how to get on the 'road to success'
> but don't know what to do when you actually get there. Saying 'do a
> degree in Journalism' isn't all that helpful.
Yes but that's a point you brought up that I don't care about. As I said I know people in the media and like most people I'll just have to go and try and get a job. The problem isn't that it's hard to find out were the jobs are, what qualifications you need etc. You can easily get interviews if you are qualified it is availability of the jobs that's the problem.
> Almost? More than twice as good. And been writing reviews on SR for
> ooh, all of a hundred days longer?
I said you were older I didn't say anything about membership to SR. You are older than me, you have been writing on and of SR longer than me even if you were just writing at school. Oh yeah and you were the one who said earlier on that you were almost twice as good as me.
> HAHAHAHHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHA...HAHAHAHAHA. HA. It was full of not only
> grammatical errors, but factual ones too. Can't wait when I buy a
> magazine written by you...
I did that ages ago and you were deffinetly that annoying person who kept posting in that topic. It may not have been great but most people liked it and I if I don't know how to make it better then what do you expect me to do? I did it to the best of my abilities back then and although I can do better now I'm happy I wrote it and don't particulary care what you think.
> What? Surely a good reviewer reviews bad things as well to make sure
> people don't buy them? And says why they are bad, etc etc?
Well I could do that...or I could stick to reviewing good items etc. I prefer not to be critical. That's why magazines hire more than one person to do all their reviews. With all those different people writting reviews one person doesn't have to be critical and positive about things. There are other reasons too ofcourse but I'm not going to go into them.
> What 'etc'? You know you need a Journalism degree. DUH. What do you do
> after getting that degree? Just phone up NOM and say 'can I write for
> you full time'? Will I need a portfolio? References? How do I get a
> portfolio if I haven't worked on a mag before?
Emmmm common sense? If you enquire to a competent careers advisor (which I have done) you can easily get into any kind of work if you have the proper skills required. As I said it's not getting interviews etc that's the problem it's the availability of the jobs.
> It's the games industry. So when you said you 'know about the games
> industry so nerr' you really meant 'I know if you want to write stuff
> for a living you need a degree in Journalism btw I met NOM lolol'?
Program development is one of the most skilled stages of gaming. You really need to have qualification in other fields to even talk about them so ofcourse I wouldn't. As for your *ehem* adaption of what I said you've missed the point on so many levels. I said I know about the games industry through research, reading etc and I know about the qualifications needed, I have met NOM and talked to them and know about what they look for in a new member of staff. That is entirely different to "I met NOM lolol"...
> You're missing the point. You know how to get on the 'road to success'
> but don't know what to do when you actually get there. Saying 'do a
> degree in Journalism' isn't all that helpful.
Yes but that's a point you brought up that I don't care about. As I said I know people in the media and like most people I'll just have to go and try and get a job. The problem isn't that it's hard to find out were the jobs are, what qualifications you need etc. You can easily get interviews if you are qualified it is availability of the jobs that's the problem.
> Almost? More than twice as good. And been writing reviews on SR for
> ooh, all of a hundred days longer?
I said you were older I didn't say anything about membership to SR. You are older than me, you have been writing on and of SR longer than me even if you were just writing at school. Oh yeah and you were the one who said earlier on that you were almost twice as good as me.
> HAHAHAHHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHA...HAHAHAHAHA. HA. It was full of not only
> grammatical errors, but factual ones too. Can't wait when I buy a
> magazine written by you...
I did that ages ago and you were deffinetly that annoying person who kept posting in that topic. It may not have been great but most people liked it and I if I don't know how to make it better then what do you expect me to do? I did it to the best of my abilities back then and although I can do better now I'm happy I wrote it and don't particulary care what you think.
> What? Surely a good reviewer reviews bad things as well to make sure
> people don't buy them? And says why they are bad, etc etc?
Well I could do that...or I could stick to reviewing good items etc. I prefer not to be critical. That's why magazines hire more than one person to do all their reviews. With all those different people writting reviews one person doesn't have to be critical and positive about things. There are other reasons too ofcourse but I'm not going to go into them.
> What 'etc'? You know you need a Journalism degree. DUH. What do you do
> after getting that degree? Just phone up NOM and say 'can I write for
> you full time'? Will I need a portfolio? References? How do I get a
> portfolio if I haven't worked on a mag before?
Emmmm common sense? If you enquire to a competent careers advisor (which I have done) you can easily get into any kind of work if you have the proper skills required. As I said it's not getting interviews etc that's the problem it's the availability of the jobs.
> It's the games industry. So when you said you 'know about the games
> industry so nerr' you really meant 'I know if you want to write stuff
> for a living you need a degree in Journalism btw I met NOM lolol'?
Program development is one of the most skilled stages of gaming. You really need to have qualification in other fields to even talk about them so ofcourse I wouldn't. As for your *ehem* adaption of what I said you've missed the point on so many levels. I said I know about the games industry through research, reading etc and I know about the qualifications needed, I have met NOM and talked to them and know about what they look for in a new member of staff. That is entirely different to "I met NOM lolol"...
Cubist wrote:
> I didn't say it did I just said I knew what course I wanted to do and
> I know how to get on the road to success.
You're missing the point. You know how to get on the 'road to success' but don't know what to do when you actually get there. Saying 'do a degree in Journalism' isn't all that helpful.
> Yes but you are not only older than me but have been writting reviews
> for longer. Congratulations you are almost twice as good as someone
> younger than you.
Almost? More than twice as good. And been writing reviews on SR for ooh, all of a hundred days longer?
> As for the DareDevil review I did write that. So
> what? It was quite good according to most people that read it.
HAHAHAHHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHA...HAHAHAHAHA. HA. It was full of not only grammatical errors, but factual ones too. Can't wait when I buy a magazine written by you...
> No I didn't I said I only reviewed "Immensley great things".
> That just means I only review good things that's not boasting it just
> means I know what all the good things are and review them...sue
> me...
What? Surely a good reviewer reviews bad things as well to make sure people don't buy them? And says why they are bad, etc etc?
> yes I do know a lot about the qualifications required etc.
What 'etc'? You know you need a Journalism degree. DUH. What do you do after getting that degree? Just phone up NOM and say 'can I write for you full time'? Will I need a portfolio? References? How do I get a portfolio if I haven't worked on a mag before?
> As
> for the how easy to get into development etc etc that means nothing to
> me as it's totally non consequential to me.
It's the games industry. So when you said you 'know about the games industry so nerr' you really meant 'I know if you want to write stuff for a living you need a degree in Journalism btw I met NOM lolol'?
> I didn't say it did I just said I knew what course I wanted to do and
> I know how to get on the road to success.
You're missing the point. You know how to get on the 'road to success' but don't know what to do when you actually get there. Saying 'do a degree in Journalism' isn't all that helpful.
> Yes but you are not only older than me but have been writting reviews
> for longer. Congratulations you are almost twice as good as someone
> younger than you.
Almost? More than twice as good. And been writing reviews on SR for ooh, all of a hundred days longer?
> As for the DareDevil review I did write that. So
> what? It was quite good according to most people that read it.
HAHAHAHHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHA...HAHAHAHAHA. HA. It was full of not only grammatical errors, but factual ones too. Can't wait when I buy a magazine written by you...
> No I didn't I said I only reviewed "Immensley great things".
> That just means I only review good things that's not boasting it just
> means I know what all the good things are and review them...sue
> me...
What? Surely a good reviewer reviews bad things as well to make sure people don't buy them? And says why they are bad, etc etc?
> yes I do know a lot about the qualifications required etc.
What 'etc'? You know you need a Journalism degree. DUH. What do you do after getting that degree? Just phone up NOM and say 'can I write for you full time'? Will I need a portfolio? References? How do I get a portfolio if I haven't worked on a mag before?
> As
> for the how easy to get into development etc etc that means nothing to
> me as it's totally non consequential to me.
It's the games industry. So when you said you 'know about the games industry so nerr' you really meant 'I know if you want to write stuff for a living you need a degree in Journalism btw I met NOM lolol'?
El Blokey wrote:
> Having studied Journalism doesn't mean you can waltz into a successful
> job yknow...
I didn't say it did I just said I knew what course I wanted to do and I know how to get on the road to success.
> Ok. Say half of my GADs are for reviews, and you said one of yours
> was.You average one GAD per 15 reviews, whereas I average about one
> every 7, which is about twice as good. And weren't you the author of
> that 'Dare Devil' 'review'?
Yes but you are not only older than me but have been writting reviews for longer. Congratulations you are almost twice as good as someone younger than you. As for the DareDevil review I did write that. So what? It was quite good according to most people that read it. There was one guy that kept complaining saying it was in the wrong topic etc etc...it wasn't you was it?...
> What? You boasted that you only review good things...
No I didn't I said I only reviewed "Immensley great things". That just means I only review good things that's not boasting it just means I know what all the good things are and review them...sue me...
> What do you know about the gaming industry. Do you know what the
> current climate is for testers? How easy it is to get into programming
> for a successful developer?
Well as I said earlier on I've met the reviewers of NOM and since I read the magazine etc etc and have obviously enquired about my future career yes I do know a lot about the qualifications required etc.As for the how easy to get into development etc etc that means nothing to me as it's totally non consequential to me.
> Having studied Journalism doesn't mean you can waltz into a successful
> job yknow...
I didn't say it did I just said I knew what course I wanted to do and I know how to get on the road to success.
> Ok. Say half of my GADs are for reviews, and you said one of yours
> was.You average one GAD per 15 reviews, whereas I average about one
> every 7, which is about twice as good. And weren't you the author of
> that 'Dare Devil' 'review'?
Yes but you are not only older than me but have been writting reviews for longer. Congratulations you are almost twice as good as someone younger than you. As for the DareDevil review I did write that. So what? It was quite good according to most people that read it. There was one guy that kept complaining saying it was in the wrong topic etc etc...it wasn't you was it?...
> What? You boasted that you only review good things...
No I didn't I said I only reviewed "Immensley great things". That just means I only review good things that's not boasting it just means I know what all the good things are and review them...sue me...
> What do you know about the gaming industry. Do you know what the
> current climate is for testers? How easy it is to get into programming
> for a successful developer?
Well as I said earlier on I've met the reviewers of NOM and since I read the magazine etc etc and have obviously enquired about my future career yes I do know a lot about the qualifications required etc.As for the how easy to get into development etc etc that means nothing to me as it's totally non consequential to me.
Cubist wrote:
> It means I know how to get started on the way to success
Having studied Journalism doesn't mean you can waltz into a successful job yknow...
> Yes but I've done 15 reviews while you've done 73...it's hardly a fair
> comparison.
Ok. Say half of my GADs are for reviews, and you said one of yours was.
You average one GAD per 15 reviews, whereas I average about one every 7, which is about twice as good. And weren't you the author of that 'Dare Devil' 'review'?
> I just said I was on topic you said that.
What? You boasted that you only review good things...
> Once again I just said I knew about the gaming industry thus up to
> date with the topic.
What do you know about the gaming industry. Do you know what the current climate is for testers? How easy it is to get into programming for a successful developer?
> It means I know how to get started on the way to success
Having studied Journalism doesn't mean you can waltz into a successful job yknow...
> Yes but I've done 15 reviews while you've done 73...it's hardly a fair
> comparison.
Ok. Say half of my GADs are for reviews, and you said one of yours was.
You average one GAD per 15 reviews, whereas I average about one every 7, which is about twice as good. And weren't you the author of that 'Dare Devil' 'review'?
> I just said I was on topic you said that.
What? You boasted that you only review good things...
> Once again I just said I knew about the gaming industry thus up to
> date with the topic.
What do you know about the gaming industry. Do you know what the current climate is for testers? How easy it is to get into programming for a successful developer?
El Blokey wrote:
> So you know how to...study Journalism at University. That helps with
> getting a job and succeeding.
It means I know how to get started on the way to success
> You: 2 GADs. Me: 23. Hear me roar.
Yes but I've done 15 reviews while you've done 73...it's hardly a fair comparison.
> Yes, because reviewing a good thing makes you a good reviewer...
I just said I was on topic you said that.
> And I invented Post-Its, and the internet. <-- that right there is
> as equally valid as your claim.
Once again I just said I knew about the gaming industry thus up to date with the topic.
> So you know how to...study Journalism at University. That helps with
> getting a job and succeeding.
It means I know how to get started on the way to success
> You: 2 GADs. Me: 23. Hear me roar.
Yes but I've done 15 reviews while you've done 73...it's hardly a fair comparison.
> Yes, because reviewing a good thing makes you a good reviewer...
I just said I was on topic you said that.
> And I invented Post-Its, and the internet. <-- that right there is
> as equally valid as your claim.
Once again I just said I knew about the gaming industry thus up to date with the topic.
Idiot.
Lol well they are quite crap actually I think I've done about 11/12 and only won two GADs one of which was GAD 1 so basically there not good but hey, I'll keep trying:D.
Cubist wrote:
> I have researched Journalism down to what uni
> I'm going to to study it (I'm only year 11)
So you know how to...study Journalism at University. That helps with getting a job and succeeding.
> my reviews are brilliant
You: 2 GADs. Me: 23. Hear me roar.
> and always about immensly great things....
Yes, because reviewing a good thing makes you a good reviewer...
> I know about the gaming industry.
And I invented Post-Its, and the internet. <-- that right there is as equally valid as your claim.
> I have researched Journalism down to what uni
> I'm going to to study it (I'm only year 11)
So you know how to...study Journalism at University. That helps with getting a job and succeeding.
> my reviews are brilliant
You: 2 GADs. Me: 23. Hear me roar.
> and always about immensly great things....
Yes, because reviewing a good thing makes you a good reviewer...
> I know about the gaming industry.
And I invented Post-Its, and the internet. <-- that right there is as equally valid as your claim.
Whether your reviews are brilliant or not surely shouldn't be judged by you... or have you been told they are?
:-)
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