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I am interested in the above subject
and am wondering how you would go about starting out in this field. I am just completing a degree in computers, so have a very good background in the whole subject, just sod all experience in journalism.
perhaps applying to review on websites or something would be best?
I only ask, as apart from the multimedia side of computers (websites - sound processing - video editing), there aren't many other jobs in computing I can see myself doing for any length of time (programming, network administration etc). Computer games have always been a passion.
Any input would be sweet.
Lader
and am wondering how you would go about starting out in this field. I am just completing a degree in computers, so have a very good background in the whole subject, just sod all experience in journalism.
perhaps applying to review on websites or something would be best?
I only ask, as apart from the multimedia side of computers (websites - sound processing - video editing), there aren't many other jobs in computing I can see myself doing for any length of time (programming, network administration etc). Computer games have always been a passion.
Any input would be sweet.
Lader
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Cubist wrote:
> Yes but that's a point you brought up that I don't care about.
You don't care that I'm saying you're not being helpful at all?
> As I
> said I know people in the media
1. You met some people who write for NOM once, you don't "know people in the media"
2. Video gaming is a very different industry to doing the telly listings
> The problem isn't that it's hard to find out
> were the jobs are, what qualifications you need etc. You can easily
> get interviews if you are qualified it is availability of the jobs
> that's the problem.
So if jobs aren't available, why are they taking interviews? To get an interview you need qualifications. But just being clever won't get you into a magazine, you'll need examples of your work.
> I said you were older I didn't say anything about membership to SR.
> You are older than me, you have been writing on and of SR longer than
> me even if you were just writing at school. Oh yeah and you were the
> one who said earlier on that you were almost twice as good as me.
My quote: "which is about twice as good". ABOUT. Not almost. So, we've established I'm a better reviewer, yes? So there's me, who knows little to nothing about getting a job writing for a magazine, and I can do better reviews than you. So before you start blowing your own trumpet consider which other trumpet players are in the room.
> I did that ages ago and you were deffinetly
Definately. I hope you'll use spell checker when drafting your CV
> It may not have been great
Understatement, perhaps? I ripped it to pieces, line by line. It was terrible.
> but most people
> liked it
SFone isn't 'most people', he's one person.
> and I if I don't know how to make it better then what do you
> expect me to do?
Not act like it was the best review ever and keep going round in circles by saying you've voided all my arguments.
> Well I could do that...or I could stick to reviewing good items etc. I
> prefer not to be critical.
That's a great asset...I bet you think The Getaway is good too, right?
> That's why magazines hire more than one
> person to do all their reviews. With all those different people
> writting reviews one person doesn't have to be critical and positive
> about things. There are other reasons too ofcourse but I'm not going
> to go into them.
1. Because you don't know, you're just guessing
2. You have to be OBJECTIVE when reviewing. The person reading wants an honest opinion of the game, if yuo just sugarcoat it so as not to be overly critical then you're just lying.
> Emmmm common sense? If you enquire to a competent careers advisor
> (which I have done) you can easily get into any kind of work if you
> have the proper skills required.
And with your sparkling intelligence, superior writing ability and wonderful spelling you'll just waltz right into Future Publishing and edit Edge magazine.
> Program development is one of the most skilled stages of gaming. You
> really need to have qualification in other fields to even talk about
> them so ofcourse I wouldn't.
You said you knew about the games industry. That is the INDUSTRY. You didn't say you knew how to get into reviewing games for a living.
> As for your *ehem* adaption of what I
> said you've missed the point on so many levels. I said I know about
> the games industry through research, reading etc
No you didn't. You just said you knew about it.
> and I know about the
> qualifications needed, I have met NOM and talked to them and know
> about what they look for in a new member of staff. That is entirely
> different to "I met NOM lolol"...
So, you met NOM and talked to them is entirely different to "I met NOM"?
Memorandum's right; I'm right. You're wrong. Drop it, and Lazarou, may I advise you to check out Edge magazine's official forum when it comes back up - they have a specific forum for advise on getting into the industry, and many people who work in it frequent the board.
> Yes but that's a point you brought up that I don't care about.
You don't care that I'm saying you're not being helpful at all?
> As I
> said I know people in the media
1. You met some people who write for NOM once, you don't "know people in the media"
2. Video gaming is a very different industry to doing the telly listings
> The problem isn't that it's hard to find out
> were the jobs are, what qualifications you need etc. You can easily
> get interviews if you are qualified it is availability of the jobs
> that's the problem.
So if jobs aren't available, why are they taking interviews? To get an interview you need qualifications. But just being clever won't get you into a magazine, you'll need examples of your work.
> I said you were older I didn't say anything about membership to SR.
> You are older than me, you have been writing on and of SR longer than
> me even if you were just writing at school. Oh yeah and you were the
> one who said earlier on that you were almost twice as good as me.
My quote: "which is about twice as good". ABOUT. Not almost. So, we've established I'm a better reviewer, yes? So there's me, who knows little to nothing about getting a job writing for a magazine, and I can do better reviews than you. So before you start blowing your own trumpet consider which other trumpet players are in the room.
> I did that ages ago and you were deffinetly
Definately. I hope you'll use spell checker when drafting your CV
> It may not have been great
Understatement, perhaps? I ripped it to pieces, line by line. It was terrible.
> but most people
> liked it
SFone isn't 'most people', he's one person.
> and I if I don't know how to make it better then what do you
> expect me to do?
Not act like it was the best review ever and keep going round in circles by saying you've voided all my arguments.
> Well I could do that...or I could stick to reviewing good items etc. I
> prefer not to be critical.
That's a great asset...I bet you think The Getaway is good too, right?
> That's why magazines hire more than one
> person to do all their reviews. With all those different people
> writting reviews one person doesn't have to be critical and positive
> about things. There are other reasons too ofcourse but I'm not going
> to go into them.
1. Because you don't know, you're just guessing
2. You have to be OBJECTIVE when reviewing. The person reading wants an honest opinion of the game, if yuo just sugarcoat it so as not to be overly critical then you're just lying.
> Emmmm common sense? If you enquire to a competent careers advisor
> (which I have done) you can easily get into any kind of work if you
> have the proper skills required.
And with your sparkling intelligence, superior writing ability and wonderful spelling you'll just waltz right into Future Publishing and edit Edge magazine.
> Program development is one of the most skilled stages of gaming. You
> really need to have qualification in other fields to even talk about
> them so ofcourse I wouldn't.
You said you knew about the games industry. That is the INDUSTRY. You didn't say you knew how to get into reviewing games for a living.
> As for your *ehem* adaption of what I
> said you've missed the point on so many levels. I said I know about
> the games industry through research, reading etc
No you didn't. You just said you knew about it.
> and I know about the
> qualifications needed, I have met NOM and talked to them and know
> about what they look for in a new member of staff. That is entirely
> different to "I met NOM lolol"...
So, you met NOM and talked to them is entirely different to "I met NOM"?
Memorandum's right; I'm right. You're wrong. Drop it, and Lazarou, may I advise you to check out Edge magazine's official forum when it comes back up - they have a specific forum for advise on getting into the industry, and many people who work in it frequent the board.
Memorandum wrote:
> I wasn't trying to provoke you, just making a statement. If you read
> El Blokey's first statement before you started arguing with him, what
> he said was a valid point.
I see but I thought I voided that argument. He's just so arrogant, he thinks he's better than me just because he's smarter. You must admit I've made some valid points to but he keeps on making allterations of what I've said, branches of into different topics and I keep telling him that that's not what I said or meant. Sigh ohwell.
> I wasn't trying to provoke you, just making a statement. If you read
> El Blokey's first statement before you started arguing with him, what
> he said was a valid point.
I see but I thought I voided that argument. He's just so arrogant, he thinks he's better than me just because he's smarter. You must admit I've made some valid points to but he keeps on making allterations of what I've said, branches of into different topics and I keep telling him that that's not what I said or meant. Sigh ohwell.
I wasn't trying to provoke you, just making a statement. If you read El Blokey's first statement before you started arguing with him, what he said was a valid point.
*slaps everyone round the forehead*
Memorandum wrote:
> Even though he's right and you're wrong.
*sigh* fine I'll fight with you now as well. So how am I wrong?
> Even though he's right and you're wrong.
*sigh* fine I'll fight with you now as well. So how am I wrong?
Even though he's right and you're wrong.
gerrid wrote:
> Oooh keep going guys, you might win an Oscar.
I don't like confrontation but when El Blokey is making argument with you you can't help but sit and correct him.
> Oooh keep going guys, you might win an Oscar.
I don't like confrontation but when El Blokey is making argument with you you can't help but sit and correct him.
Cubist, Blokey - just flop the packages out on the desk and we'll get this over nice and quick.
Oooh keep going guys, you might win an Oscar.
lol apparently so
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