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Machie wrote:
> Someone local? Not sure I found any UK perl sites, got any
> recommendations?
*groan* Forget UK perl sites, find a freelancer/business in your local town/area.
> Ah the guy has got back to me
>
> Oops, I'm not good with technical stuff and I dont even know how
> I want it to interact with a database. I've just been told by you
> guys, if I want 100s of something that it'll need to be run with
> a database.
And here is the single best reason to try to find somebody local, ie someone you can sit down with and explain to them what you want to achieve.
Actually this stage is also a very good indicator of whether you're hiring the right person for the job. You shouldnt really need to get too technical (thats their job :P). Tell them what you want to achieve, and they should come back with questions helping to clarify your requirements. If they arent, then perhaps its a warning sign that maybe they arent the right person to hire.
Once you've talked it through with them, before agreeing to anything ask them for their specification of what they are going to do as well.
Irs often the biggest problem with those kind of sites and where the risk I mentioned comes from. They may well have the technical knowledge/skill but its only half the battle. If they cant gather the requirements properly and understand whats needed, then you've lost before they've even started.
> Someone local? Not sure I found any UK perl sites, got any
> recommendations?
*groan* Forget UK perl sites, find a freelancer/business in your local town/area.
> Ah the guy has got back to me
"Just give me your
> requirements in details, technically speaking how you need this
> system to work? and how it will interact with database,
> website?">
> Oops, I'm not good with technical stuff and I dont even know how
> I want it to interact with a database. I've just been told by you
> guys, if I want 100s of something that it'll need to be run with
> a database.
And here is the single best reason to try to find somebody local, ie someone you can sit down with and explain to them what you want to achieve.
Actually this stage is also a very good indicator of whether you're hiring the right person for the job. You shouldnt really need to get too technical (thats their job :P). Tell them what you want to achieve, and they should come back with questions helping to clarify your requirements. If they arent, then perhaps its a warning sign that maybe they arent the right person to hire.
Once you've talked it through with them, before agreeing to anything ask them for their specification of what they are going to do as well.
Irs often the biggest problem with those kind of sites and where the risk I mentioned comes from. They may well have the technical knowledge/skill but its only half the battle. If they cant gather the requirements properly and understand whats needed, then you've lost before they've even started.
Garin wrote:
> If I were in your position, I'd look for somebody local. If
> something from scratch is too expensive then consider asking for
> a modification of an existing script as it may well work out much
> cheaper.
I'm all up for modifying existing scripts, only I havent come across any that use a MySQL database. I wonder if they're difficult to setup.
Someone local? Not sure I found any UK perl sites, got any recommendations?
Ah the guy has got back to me
Oops, I'm not good with technical stuff and I dont even know how I want it to interact with a database. I've just been told by you guys, if I want 100s of something that it'll need to be run with a database.
I feel a little out of my depth. =/
> If I were in your position, I'd look for somebody local. If
> something from scratch is too expensive then consider asking for
> a modification of an existing script as it may well work out much
> cheaper.
I'm all up for modifying existing scripts, only I havent come across any that use a MySQL database. I wonder if they're difficult to setup.
Someone local? Not sure I found any UK perl sites, got any recommendations?
Ah the guy has got back to me
"Just give me your requirements in details, technically speaking how you need this system to work? and how it will interact with database, website?"Oops, I'm not good with technical stuff and I dont even know how I want it to interact with a database. I've just been told by you guys, if I want 100s of something that it'll need to be run with a database.
I feel a little out of my depth. =/
Machie wrote:
> Well to be honest I dont really know, so maybe you are right =)
No maybe about it. I've spec'ed enough projects to know what you're asking for. Its possible to churn out something in half a days work no doubt. Not something I'd want to use though. :)
> oh dear I was hoping this would save me a lot of time from
> searching. Do you have any other suggestions where I can get
> this made then Garin? That site I got the quote from was a bit
> out of date so I'd probably feel less safe than using
> rentacoder.
If I were in your position, I'd look for somebody local. If something from scratch is too expensive then consider asking for a modification of an existing script as it may well work out much cheaper.
> Well to be honest I dont really know, so maybe you are right =)
No maybe about it. I've spec'ed enough projects to know what you're asking for. Its possible to churn out something in half a days work no doubt. Not something I'd want to use though. :)
> oh dear I was hoping this would save me a lot of time from
> searching. Do you have any other suggestions where I can get
> this made then Garin? That site I got the quote from was a bit
> out of date so I'd probably feel less safe than using
> rentacoder.
If I were in your position, I'd look for somebody local. If something from scratch is too expensive then consider asking for a modification of an existing script as it may well work out much cheaper.
Garin wrote:
> Well, as I say believe anything you like. You're not alone in
> having a somewhat twisted view of these kinds of jobs and what
> people are paid.
Well to be honest I dont really know, so maybe you are right =)
> I'm not saying you cant get what you want from these kind of
> places. But its fair to say the risks are significantly higher.
oh dear I was hoping this would save me a lot of time from searching. Do you have any other suggestions where I can get this made then Garin? That site I got the quote from was a bit out of date so I'd probably feel less safe than using rentacoder.
=( if this carries on I might have to use PHP afterall. *gulps*
I'm just messing ;)
> Well, as I say believe anything you like. You're not alone in
> having a somewhat twisted view of these kinds of jobs and what
> people are paid.
Well to be honest I dont really know, so maybe you are right =)
> I'm not saying you cant get what you want from these kind of
> places. But its fair to say the risks are significantly higher.
oh dear I was hoping this would save me a lot of time from searching. Do you have any other suggestions where I can get this made then Garin? That site I got the quote from was a bit out of date so I'd probably feel less safe than using rentacoder.
=( if this carries on I might have to use PHP afterall. *gulps*
I'm just messing ;)
Machie wrote:
> Garin wrote:
> Believe anything you like.
>
> Bob_The_Moose agrees with me =) and from my experiences with
> hiring Perl programmers I know what they can do. I dont feel
> like paying someone a months wage for something they can do in
> half a day.
Well, as I say believe anything you like. You're not alone in having a somewhat twisted view of these kinds of jobs and what people are paid.
> Also whats wrong with this rentacoder? You've had bad
> experiences there?
I'm not saying you cant get what you want from these kind of places. But its fair to say the risks are significantly higher.
> Garin wrote:
> Believe anything you like.
>
> Bob_The_Moose agrees with me =) and from my experiences with
> hiring Perl programmers I know what they can do. I dont feel
> like paying someone a months wage for something they can do in
> half a day.
Well, as I say believe anything you like. You're not alone in having a somewhat twisted view of these kinds of jobs and what people are paid.
> Also whats wrong with this rentacoder? You've had bad
> experiences there?
I'm not saying you cant get what you want from these kind of places. But its fair to say the risks are significantly higher.
Okay maybe more than half a day =)
Bob_The_Moose wrote:
> I think he means he just wants to know if you'll store the ad
> data in your MySQL database, and the script will just have to
> retrieve it.
Cheers bob, I'll reply back.
> Writing something like that in PHP would be a few hours
> (excluding time hunting for tiny typing errors). The only
> complicated bit as far as I can see would be securing the
> advertiser login. I don't know about Perl, but I don't suppose
> it'd be a whole lot harder.
Well to be honest it doesnt need to be too secure. I mean as long as they can login and see the number of impressions and clicks that's all really. =)
> I think he means he just wants to know if you'll store the ad
> data in your MySQL database, and the script will just have to
> retrieve it.
Cheers bob, I'll reply back.
> Writing something like that in PHP would be a few hours
> (excluding time hunting for tiny typing errors). The only
> complicated bit as far as I can see would be securing the
> advertiser login. I don't know about Perl, but I don't suppose
> it'd be a whole lot harder.
Well to be honest it doesnt need to be too secure. I mean as long as they can login and see the number of impressions and clicks that's all really. =)
Garin wrote:
> Believe anything you like.
Bob_The_Moose agrees with me =) and from my experiences with hiring Perl programmers I know what they can do. I dont feel like paying someone a months wage for something they can do in half a day.
Also whats wrong with this rentacoder? You've had bad experiences there?
> Exactly what it says, hes asking if the databases already exist.
Ah I see.
> Believe anything you like.
Bob_The_Moose agrees with me =) and from my experiences with hiring Perl programmers I know what they can do. I dont feel like paying someone a months wage for something they can do in half a day.
Also whats wrong with this rentacoder? You've had bad experiences there?
> Exactly what it says, hes asking if the databases already exist.
Ah I see.
Machie wrote:
> Why do you say that Garin? And come on, I've looked at the
> scripts, doing this is just a few hours work, not a week that
> would justify $750 to $1,500 =/
Believe anything you like.
> Had someone ask back "Are we talking about writing a cgi
> script to be a front end to your databases"
>
> What's that mean Garin?
Exactly what it says, hes asking if the databases already exist.
> Why do you say that Garin? And come on, I've looked at the
> scripts, doing this is just a few hours work, not a week that
> would justify $750 to $1,500 =/
Believe anything you like.
> Had someone ask back "Are we talking about writing a cgi
> script to be a front end to your databases"
>
> What's that mean Garin?
Exactly what it says, hes asking if the databases already exist.
I think he means he just wants to know if you'll store the ad data in your MySQL database, and the script will just have to retrieve it.
Writing something like that in PHP would be a few hours (excluding time hunting for tiny typing errors). The only complicated bit as far as I can see would be securing the advertiser login. I don't know about Perl, but I don't suppose it'd be a whole lot harder.
Writing something like that in PHP would be a few hours (excluding time hunting for tiny typing errors). The only complicated bit as far as I can see would be securing the advertiser login. I don't know about Perl, but I don't suppose it'd be a whole lot harder.
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