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"Driver 3 amongst others canned on Cube...."

Taken from cube-europe.com

"Today at the SEGA event in Rotterdam, The Netherlands, we had a litte chat with Atari. Atari representatives were at the event because Atari distributes the SEGA titles in the Benelux. Unfortunately, Atari brought us some bad news.

Some of you may have already heard of these Cube cancellations. Today Atari confirmed the rumours...

Mission Impossible: Operation Surma, Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines, and Driver 3 will not be released for the Nintendo GameCube.

Fortunately, Atari said we will probably see the sequel to Dragonball Z: Budokai on the Nintendo GameCube. And the following titles are also still on for a release on the GameCube: XGRA, The Powerpuff Girls, Beyblade, Dexter's Laboratory, Carmen San Diego, Kero Kero King, and Digimon Rumble Arena 2. "


So we loose the games that would have sold and we're left with kiddy crap like Dexters Laboratory and The Powerpuff girls.

WTF?

No wonder Cube gets labelled as a kiddy machine when developers treat it like this.

But if you look at when those increase it is most likely on the release of a game. Over the coming months though its worrying how little in the way of top exclusive titles due for release though on the PS2.

Manhunt and Pro Evolution 3 are my top gamblers for the PS2. Can't wait to play either.

Sony need to make sure that Nintendo and Microsoft don't gain too much ground with the PS2...

But they failed.

Christmas 2002 Nintendo's Gamecube is a couple of hundred systems from the PS2 in a weekly sales chart.

September 2003 Nintendo's Gamecube overtakes sony for just one week.

This is VERY WORRYING.

Microsoft are the number 2 selling console in the west and their sales are going up faster than Sony's e.g.

Week 1: Microsoft 2 consoles Sony: 18 consoles
week 2: Microsoft 5 consoles Sony: 19 consoles.

Most likely next time around however for now there is no cathing the PS2. Sont can sit back and work towards the PS3. Lets just hope they have some more killer apps lined up because with Tenchu, GTA, Metal Gear amongst others heading to the Cube and Xbox within 12 months it won't be long before it will start to collapse. Personally it won't in the PS2's life time and thats what I am saying. The PS2 will continue to dominate the market.

> Thats the point I am making. Sony can do fack all with something yet
> still sell more units than something of higher quality from a better
> developer/producer.

Just remember that in time... Microsoft will destroy Sony.

You seem to be trying to make the point that the PS2 is no longer selling as well. However one of the biggest games on the Cube probably won't shift half the units of yet ANOTHER multi million selling PS2 game.

Thats the point I am making. Sony can do fack all with something yet still sell more units than something of higher quality from a better developer/producer.

ÂLŠ†ÂÎR wrote:
> So the 70 million quickly goes back to 69 million as a total? That
> figure doesn't change and no one will catch it.

That's overall my friend... when the next round comes you'll see the sales split a little more. And ignoring the fact that Sony aren't making as much profit as you think.

> Dringo do you seriously think Twin Snakes will shift more units than
> Metal Gear 3? Of come on thats hilarious.

*Dringo reads his post* doesn't look like i said that no and no I don't think it either.

Just because it doesn't sell AS well doesn't mean it won't sell well.

Do you honestly expect Konami to say "Well Twin Snakes made a bomb and hit high in the charts making more money than it cost to make... but it didn't sell as well as MGS2 on the PS2 so stuff the potential money making idea by making it multiformat".

Come on that's hilarious.

So the 70 million quickly goes back to 69 million as a total? That figure doesn't change and no one will catch it.

Dringo do you seriously think Twin Snakes will shift more units than Metal Gear 3? Of come on thats hilarious. One giant title for Nintendo just becomes another massive selling game for Sony. Regardless of the quality of the title the PS2 installment will shift more units and more consoles.

Sony used to have half this games completley exclusive to their system! What do you think Konami will do when MGS: Twin Snakes sells bucket loads which it will? That's right they'll start releasing the second, then third and then eventually simultaneously. What about when GTA rips a whole in the X-box sales charts? Yep Rockstarr will realize Sony don't have enough money to compensate for that.

Sony have lost GTA, Metal Gear Solid, Resident Evil, Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, final fantasy etc...

These games have all reached number 1 for Sony in the past.

ÂLŠ†ÂÎR wrote:
> So sales figures are going to start going backwards then?

Yes, thats what tends to happen when people dont buy stuff...

So sales figures are going to start going backwards then? You can't take away the fact that Sony have pis*ed on the console market this time around in a massive way up to press. They still have Pro Evolution, future GTA titles before any other platform, Devil May Cry, Rockstar exclusive titles that sell sheet loads plus Metal Gear 3 which is a definite PS2 exclusive along side Killzone and Syphon Filter and GT4 which will shift a tonne of consoles between them. These games will shift consoles regardless. There is no catching up with the PS2, it will all start next time around.