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highly illigal, but no ones perfect eh?
Has anyone had the mod chip & 80 Gig Hardrive upgrade fitted yet?
apparently you can dump entire games to the drive for faster accsess!
I need more speed! and room for the music i've dumped to disk, only got 32000 Blocks left now! anyone know how much is too much? before it affects the games your playing? may have to buy another XBOX! probably down to a ton by Xmas anyhow
Has anyone had the mod chip & 80 Gig Hardrive upgrade fitted yet?
apparently you can dump entire games to the drive for faster accsess!
I need more speed! and room for the music i've dumped to disk, only got 32000 Blocks left now! anyone know how much is too much? before it affects the games your playing? may have to buy another XBOX! probably down to a ton by Xmas anyhow
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Not the same link, but it's the story
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/ emergingtech/0,39020357,2103206,00.htm
And this should interest you Dr Gonzo in relation to Australia because it reversed the 2001 ruling in Australia that the chips were legal and has returned them to illegal status,
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/ chips/0,39020354,39115402,00.htm
ZDNet is quite good for news like this.
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/ emergingtech/0,39020357,2103206,00.htm
And this should interest you Dr Gonzo in relation to Australia because it reversed the 2001 ruling in Australia that the chips were legal and has returned them to illegal status,
http://news.zdnet.co.uk/hardware/ chips/0,39020354,39115402,00.htm
ZDNet is quite good for news like this.
Dr Gonzo wrote:
> Like I said though, not totally up-to-date on this anymore, if
> Belldandy has a link or reference of any kind for the case he
> mentioned earlier I’d like to look at it.
Someone posted the link in the life forums a while ago because they were doing the topic of piracy for a project, I'll see if I can find it.
> Like I said though, not totally up-to-date on this anymore, if
> Belldandy has a link or reference of any kind for the case he
> mentioned earlier I’d like to look at it.
Someone posted the link in the life forums a while ago because they were doing the topic of piracy for a project, I'll see if I can find it.
Nomino wrote:
> Edgy wrote:
> If it is legal for people to have mod chips in consoles, why is it
> Special Reserve, Game, Gamestation and most other well respected
> retailers in the country wont touch them if they have any suspicion
> of being modified?
>
> Check!
>
> They are large businesses with a lot to lose, and if they want to
> continue selling SONY hardware & software, they had better abide
> by SONYs rules. Whether they are truly illegal or not is irrelevant
> in this case.
>
> Check!
They sell pre-owned consoles and pre-owned games. Surely if selling chipped consoles is gonna pee off Sony (and the other two companies) then selling pre-owned is gonna pee them off just as much. After all, they make NO money out of that, yet the retailers make a huge percentage of profits on it.
> Edgy wrote:
> If it is legal for people to have mod chips in consoles, why is it
> Special Reserve, Game, Gamestation and most other well respected
> retailers in the country wont touch them if they have any suspicion
> of being modified?
>
> Check!
>
> They are large businesses with a lot to lose, and if they want to
> continue selling SONY hardware & software, they had better abide
> by SONYs rules. Whether they are truly illegal or not is irrelevant
> in this case.
>
> Check!
They sell pre-owned consoles and pre-owned games. Surely if selling chipped consoles is gonna pee off Sony (and the other two companies) then selling pre-owned is gonna pee them off just as much. After all, they make NO money out of that, yet the retailers make a huge percentage of profits on it.
ÂLÂ??ÂÎR wrote:
> http://au.playstation.com/piracy/index.jhtml
Doh! That's the link I'm talking about in the first line :)
> http://au.playstation.com/piracy/index.jhtml
Doh! That's the link I'm talking about in the first line :)
While I'm not in a million year's trying to endorse Nomino's rubbish, that's a pretty unfortunate locality to link to as in Australia chipping your PS2 is legally protected (unless something's changed very recently). The basic problem around the world is that you own the console and are free to alter/modify/destroy your property in anyway you choose. In a case against mod chip installers in Aus, the court took the line that if the chip had any possible legitimate use, they'd do nothing. They also agreed with the modders that the region locking system was open to be tampered with as it restricted free trade, so that was the legitimate reason for the chips.
The States are at the other end of the scale where legislature outlaws anything facilitating piracy. UK (unless changed in the last few months) can't decide and have gone to amazing lengths to avoid the problem. A company called Channel Technologies reportedly developed the first mod chip to enable direct booting of copies, but was only shut down because their chip also altered to boot screen to display their logo. The court said to do this they must have tampered with Sony's copyrighted BIOS sequence, so were stopped because of a totally spurious point in relation to piracy. Essentially they were crippled not because their chips allowed you to play pirated software, but because they displayed the company logo during booting!
This was a particularly hollow victory for Sony as it told mod chip developers that all they need to do is bypass the BIOS totally. Since this decision, about three years ago now, Sony haven’t had a major victory against a mod chip developer in the UK.
Like I said though, not totally up-to-date on this anymore, if Belldandy has a link or reference of any kind for the case he mentioned earlier I’d like to look at it.
The States are at the other end of the scale where legislature outlaws anything facilitating piracy. UK (unless changed in the last few months) can't decide and have gone to amazing lengths to avoid the problem. A company called Channel Technologies reportedly developed the first mod chip to enable direct booting of copies, but was only shut down because their chip also altered to boot screen to display their logo. The court said to do this they must have tampered with Sony's copyrighted BIOS sequence, so were stopped because of a totally spurious point in relation to piracy. Essentially they were crippled not because their chips allowed you to play pirated software, but because they displayed the company logo during booting!
This was a particularly hollow victory for Sony as it told mod chip developers that all they need to do is bypass the BIOS totally. Since this decision, about three years ago now, Sony haven’t had a major victory against a mod chip developer in the UK.
Like I said though, not totally up-to-date on this anymore, if Belldandy has a link or reference of any kind for the case he mentioned earlier I’d like to look at it.
Belldandy wrote:
> Nomino wrote:
> Don't have a swimming pool my back garden, it's indoors. And at night
> it slides back and Thunderbird 1 blast off into the night sky. And my
> pool is a secret submarine base. And I designed the software for the
> T1000 so I rule. I sooooooo rule. Eat my 100k biatches. Wait, dont
> leave......
Nearly ;)
> Nomino wrote:
> Don't have a swimming pool my back garden, it's indoors. And at night
> it slides back and Thunderbird 1 blast off into the night sky. And my
> pool is a secret submarine base. And I designed the software for the
> T1000 so I rule. I sooooooo rule. Eat my 100k biatches. Wait, dont
> leave......
Nearly ;)
> Nomino wrote:
> Don't have a swimming pool my back garden, it's indoors. And at night it > slides back and Thunderbird 1 blast off into the night sky. And my pool > is a secret submarine base. And I designed the software for the T1000 so > I rule. I sooooooo rule. Eat my 100k biatches. Wait, dont leave......
> Don't have a swimming pool my back garden, it's indoors. And at night it > slides back and Thunderbird 1 blast off into the night sky. And my pool > is a secret submarine base. And I designed the software for the T1000 so > I rule. I sooooooo rule. Eat my 100k biatches. Wait, dont leave......
Nomino wrote:
> Your so-called respected national retailers never sold them even when
> they where "legal", so that argument is total b*llocks.
> The modding scene has always been "underground", which
> makes a total mockery of SONY getting the sale of them illegal.
Well they were never legal, so that's a nice paradox for you.
> If SONY really are that bothered, why am I able to list the sites of
> several well-known mail-order companies who have been selling (and
> continue to sell) mod-chips and pre-modded consoles for years? So
> easily trackable, but still going strong.
Because trading standards are lazy computer illiterate people for the most part and more concerned with the humongous pile of pirate goods flooding into the UK this Christmas.
> The truth is, in the grand scheme of things, SONY really don't give a
> t*ss.
Which is why the Euro PS2 has no RGB Scart on DVD playback ? Which is why Macrovision was built in? Which is why Sony builds copy protection into the games ?
>To help matters, they go and manufacture a DVD writer with
> which you can copy their games! Hell, they've even gone and made the
> networkable PSX that has a massive HD and a DVD writer built in!! If
> that's not encouraging piracy, I don't know what is.
Considering all consoles are just streamlined PC parts I could probably turn my Xbox into a component in a guided missile given the sufficient time, however that would not mean Microsoft are encouraging people to do that. Idiot.
> *sets up new chess game with the pieces set up as prior to being
> flushed down the toilet*
*leave's Nomino to play Chess with his imaginary friends, sorry, wife and daughter*
Word of advice Nomino, unless you get someone else on side then you'll never out argue the forum, you will provide a little bit of entertainment though, Kind of like a 100K court jester type thing...
> Your so-called respected national retailers never sold them even when
> they where "legal", so that argument is total b*llocks.
> The modding scene has always been "underground", which
> makes a total mockery of SONY getting the sale of them illegal.
Well they were never legal, so that's a nice paradox for you.
> If SONY really are that bothered, why am I able to list the sites of
> several well-known mail-order companies who have been selling (and
> continue to sell) mod-chips and pre-modded consoles for years? So
> easily trackable, but still going strong.
Because trading standards are lazy computer illiterate people for the most part and more concerned with the humongous pile of pirate goods flooding into the UK this Christmas.
> The truth is, in the grand scheme of things, SONY really don't give a
> t*ss.
Which is why the Euro PS2 has no RGB Scart on DVD playback ? Which is why Macrovision was built in? Which is why Sony builds copy protection into the games ?
>To help matters, they go and manufacture a DVD writer with
> which you can copy their games! Hell, they've even gone and made the
> networkable PSX that has a massive HD and a DVD writer built in!! If
> that's not encouraging piracy, I don't know what is.
Considering all consoles are just streamlined PC parts I could probably turn my Xbox into a component in a guided missile given the sufficient time, however that would not mean Microsoft are encouraging people to do that. Idiot.
> *sets up new chess game with the pieces set up as prior to being
> flushed down the toilet*
*leave's Nomino to play Chess with his imaginary friends, sorry, wife and daughter*
Word of advice Nomino, unless you get someone else on side then you'll never out argue the forum, you will provide a little bit of entertainment though, Kind of like a 100K court jester type thing...
Nomino wrote:
> Don't have a swimming pool my back garden, it's indoors.
You crack me up. Seriosuly.
> Don't have a swimming pool my back garden, it's indoors.
You crack me up. Seriosuly.
HálloHowArtThou wrote:
> Nomino,
>
> The fact that you choose to hang around here and attempting to prove
> it's ok to break the law is petty and pathetic.
>
> Shouldn't you be off crusing in your new sportscar and/or swimming in
> your Olympic-size pool in your backgarden?
Don't have a swimming pool my back garden, it's indoors.
> Nomino,
>
> The fact that you choose to hang around here and attempting to prove
> it's ok to break the law is petty and pathetic.
>
> Shouldn't you be off crusing in your new sportscar and/or swimming in
> your Olympic-size pool in your backgarden?
Don't have a swimming pool my back garden, it's indoors.
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