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Sorry sorry sorry for that horrible title... but I had to think of something.
All I can say is wow, this seems an amazing Idea... Before Rickoss harps on about the Virtual Boy and 64DD may I point out that the VB enduced headaches which was why it failed and the 64DD was released too late.
This new DS probably means Nintendo are to abandon their GBA connectivity feature as this essentially does the same thing!!!!! For those who haven't read the press release I will put it down below, but this is a really fantastic original and pure fun idea.
In a shocking announcement which is set to rock the gaming world, Nintendo have released details of their forthcoming DS Portable gaming system. Rumours began flying a few weeks ago after mysterious words were uttered from Nintendo spokes people regarding a new machine. Some thought the machine would be the fabled “Game Boy Enhanced” with the mighty power to play Game Boy Advance AND Gamecube games, however this is not the case.
This surprising move from Nintendo sees them releasing a third stand-alone portable system to take games playing and interactivity to a completely different plane of existence! This new machine will feature not one but two 3” TFT LCD screens to allow for greater scope and perspective on the games. The two screens will be backlit to allow for poor-light play. The main processor is pparently an "ARM 9" with the Sub-processor an "ARM 7".
Here’s the official word from Nintendo:
”Players can look forward to being able to manage their game progress from two different perspectives, enhancing both the speed and strategy of the challenge. For example in a football game, you can view the whole game on one screen, while simultaneously focusing on an individual footballer's tackle or goal on the other screen. Players will no longer be forced to interrupt game play to shift perspective, such as moving from a wide shot to a close up, or alternating between a character's ongoing battle and a map of their environment. Nintendo DS makes it possible to perform the tasks in real time by simply glancing from one screen to the other.”
Self-styled “Funny Man of Gaming” and Nintendo president Satoru Iwata had this to say on the new product:
"We have developed Nintendo DS based upon a completely different concept from existing game devices in order to provide players with a unique entertainment experience for the 21st century"
The Nintendo DS will feature two separate screens, separate processors and a semiconductor memory of up to 1 gigabit. It will be marketed and sold as a separate entity to Game Boy Advance and the Gamecube systems. More information will be available at E3 when the system will be fully unveiled for the first time. Nintendo says we can expect a world-wide launch before the end of the year!
Cube-Europe.
DUDE!
All I can say is wow, this seems an amazing Idea... Before Rickoss harps on about the Virtual Boy and 64DD may I point out that the VB enduced headaches which was why it failed and the 64DD was released too late.
This new DS probably means Nintendo are to abandon their GBA connectivity feature as this essentially does the same thing!!!!! For those who haven't read the press release I will put it down below, but this is a really fantastic original and pure fun idea.
In a shocking announcement which is set to rock the gaming world, Nintendo have released details of their forthcoming DS Portable gaming system. Rumours began flying a few weeks ago after mysterious words were uttered from Nintendo spokes people regarding a new machine. Some thought the machine would be the fabled “Game Boy Enhanced” with the mighty power to play Game Boy Advance AND Gamecube games, however this is not the case.
This surprising move from Nintendo sees them releasing a third stand-alone portable system to take games playing and interactivity to a completely different plane of existence! This new machine will feature not one but two 3” TFT LCD screens to allow for greater scope and perspective on the games. The two screens will be backlit to allow for poor-light play. The main processor is pparently an "ARM 9" with the Sub-processor an "ARM 7".
Here’s the official word from Nintendo:
”Players can look forward to being able to manage their game progress from two different perspectives, enhancing both the speed and strategy of the challenge. For example in a football game, you can view the whole game on one screen, while simultaneously focusing on an individual footballer's tackle or goal on the other screen. Players will no longer be forced to interrupt game play to shift perspective, such as moving from a wide shot to a close up, or alternating between a character's ongoing battle and a map of their environment. Nintendo DS makes it possible to perform the tasks in real time by simply glancing from one screen to the other.”
Self-styled “Funny Man of Gaming” and Nintendo president Satoru Iwata had this to say on the new product:
"We have developed Nintendo DS based upon a completely different concept from existing game devices in order to provide players with a unique entertainment experience for the 21st century"
The Nintendo DS will feature two separate screens, separate processors and a semiconductor memory of up to 1 gigabit. It will be marketed and sold as a separate entity to Game Boy Advance and the Gamecube systems. More information will be available at E3 when the system will be fully unveiled for the first time. Nintendo says we can expect a world-wide launch before the end of the year!
Cube-Europe.
DUDE!
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I find the DS a console idea that has been in the works for years and that Nintendo is releasing earlier to counter the PSP.
The DS has a lot of potential, designers will be working round the clock on how to implement a dual screen game... it's a very smart idea even if you lot don't think so.
As for Nintendo's fear of the PSP I actually 100% agree with FM...
I mean how many adults do you see playing handheld games? On their mobile maybe but handheld games? A bit much.
The handheld market sells mainly to 12's or under and, surprisingly, girls... something the GB really appeals to.
The Dual Screen is a new gaming idea which could well be the next big thing if the games come out for it right.
The DS has a lot of potential, designers will be working round the clock on how to implement a dual screen game... it's a very smart idea even if you lot don't think so.
As for Nintendo's fear of the PSP I actually 100% agree with FM...
I mean how many adults do you see playing handheld games? On their mobile maybe but handheld games? A bit much.
The handheld market sells mainly to 12's or under and, surprisingly, girls... something the GB really appeals to.
The Dual Screen is a new gaming idea which could well be the next big thing if the games come out for it right.
Yukikaze wrote:
> Wrong. Nintendo need to expand into that market - what do you think
> the PSP was about eh? It was advertised far wider than any other
> Nintendo machine with late night tv ads, ads in FHM, Arena, T3 etc
>
> They don't know how long Pokemon can remain a winner outside of Japan
> in terms of a mass market appeal because trends outside Japan are
> less predictable and stable. One years craze is often the following
> years bargain bin title.
The PSP hasn't even been made yet, let alone advertised.
Pokemon has been a multibillion industry since it hit the Gameboy 8 years ago.
The PSP isn't just a handheld, therefore would never encroach on the Gameboy/GBA/GBA SP market. Think about it this way, the Gameboy series of handhelds has been out there for years. If people haven't bought one by now, the chances are they're never going to anyway.
And for future handhelds, which would you prefer for your gaming on the go?
£50 handheld that plays Pokemon and other neat titles?
£250 device that plays games, movies, online compatibility, PS2 ports, MP3's etc.
I know which one the parents would go for for their kids, the £50 handheld that concentrates on games is always going to be the Christmas seller.
PSP is a whole different market, therefore Nintendo shouldn't be worried. Their DS system just seems to be a panic reaction, as someone said earlier there's nothing wrong with the existing Nintendo handheld systems.
> Wrong. Nintendo need to expand into that market - what do you think
> the PSP was about eh? It was advertised far wider than any other
> Nintendo machine with late night tv ads, ads in FHM, Arena, T3 etc
>
> They don't know how long Pokemon can remain a winner outside of Japan
> in terms of a mass market appeal because trends outside Japan are
> less predictable and stable. One years craze is often the following
> years bargain bin title.
The PSP hasn't even been made yet, let alone advertised.
Pokemon has been a multibillion industry since it hit the Gameboy 8 years ago.
The PSP isn't just a handheld, therefore would never encroach on the Gameboy/GBA/GBA SP market. Think about it this way, the Gameboy series of handhelds has been out there for years. If people haven't bought one by now, the chances are they're never going to anyway.
And for future handhelds, which would you prefer for your gaming on the go?
£50 handheld that plays Pokemon and other neat titles?
£250 device that plays games, movies, online compatibility, PS2 ports, MP3's etc.
I know which one the parents would go for for their kids, the £50 handheld that concentrates on games is always going to be the Christmas seller.
PSP is a whole different market, therefore Nintendo shouldn't be worried. Their DS system just seems to be a panic reaction, as someone said earlier there's nothing wrong with the existing Nintendo handheld systems.
Wrong. Nintendo need to expand into that market - what do you think the PSP was about eh? It was advertised far wider than any other Nintendo machine with late night tv ads, ads in FHM, Arena, T3 etc
They don't know how long Pokemon can remain a winner outside of Japan in terms of a mass market appeal because trends outside Japan are less predictable and stable. One years craze is often the following years bargain bin title.
They don't know how long Pokemon can remain a winner outside of Japan in terms of a mass market appeal because trends outside Japan are less predictable and stable. One years craze is often the following years bargain bin title.
Yukikaze wrote:
> FantasyMeister wrote:
> ßulle††™ wrote:
> Maybe they actually do feel threatened or intimidated by the PSP...
>
> PSP hasn't got Pokemon, never will have, therefore Nintendo
> shouldn't
> really feel threatened.
>
> You miss a point. There are a legion of people out there who do not
> give a toss about Pokemon. They own (generally) Xbox and PS2
> consoles. They do not own a handheld. Yet. They buy games regularly
> and at release. They have money to spend and they want something
> which is more than a handheld.
>
> That is Sony's market. Sony are not chasing the Pokemon kids, they're
> going to outflank them and Nintendo.
Therefore, Nintendo shouldn't really feel threatened.
> FantasyMeister wrote:
> ßulle††™ wrote:
> Maybe they actually do feel threatened or intimidated by the PSP...
>
> PSP hasn't got Pokemon, never will have, therefore Nintendo
> shouldn't
> really feel threatened.
>
> You miss a point. There are a legion of people out there who do not
> give a toss about Pokemon. They own (generally) Xbox and PS2
> consoles. They do not own a handheld. Yet. They buy games regularly
> and at release. They have money to spend and they want something
> which is more than a handheld.
>
> That is Sony's market. Sony are not chasing the Pokemon kids, they're
> going to outflank them and Nintendo.
Therefore, Nintendo shouldn't really feel threatened.
FantasyMeister wrote:
> ßulle††™ wrote:
> Maybe they actually do feel threatened or intimidated by the PSP...
>
> PSP hasn't got Pokemon, never will have, therefore Nintendo shouldn't
> really feel threatened.
You miss a point. There are a legion of people out there who do not give a toss about Pokemon. They own (generally) Xbox and PS2 consoles. They do not own a handheld. Yet. They buy games regularly and at release. They have money to spend and they want something which is more than a handheld.
That is Sony's market. Sony are not chasing the Pokemon kids, they're going to outflank them and Nintendo.
> ßulle††™ wrote:
> Maybe they actually do feel threatened or intimidated by the PSP...
>
> PSP hasn't got Pokemon, never will have, therefore Nintendo shouldn't
> really feel threatened.
You miss a point. There are a legion of people out there who do not give a toss about Pokemon. They own (generally) Xbox and PS2 consoles. They do not own a handheld. Yet. They buy games regularly and at release. They have money to spend and they want something which is more than a handheld.
That is Sony's market. Sony are not chasing the Pokemon kids, they're going to outflank them and Nintendo.
FantasyMeister wrote:
> Prototype:
>
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clareeller/nintendobs.jpg
It's funny because that actually looks like a better design job than the PSP :-P
> Prototype:
>
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/clareeller/nintendobs.jpg
It's funny because that actually looks like a better design job than the PSP :-P
Dringo, a few of your ideas wouldn't work without two sets of controls as well as two screens, and the others are just as easily accomplished with a button push (since you can't focus on two screens simultaneously anyway).
In the case of the controls, is a button push to switch controls any better than a button push to switch the camera?
Its totally irrelevant.
In the case of the controls, is a button push to switch controls any better than a button push to switch the camera?
Its totally irrelevant.
But is there really anything wrong with the 'SP??? NO!
All it would need is some kind of "little push" around the time of the PSP's release, and Nintendo's consistency would be kept in that number-one spot.
An all-new Mario adventure. Another Zelda. Maybe something that actually makes the GC-connectivity feature "appealing" to all...
Don't you see?
I'm not trying to say this is a bad idea, I just feel the timing could be all wrong, if it is to be used as to how we all think.
But, the thing we must remember is, 'we still don't know for sure'.
I mean, they haven't "confirmed" anything, as of yet. For all we know, they could plan on releasing it away from the mass-market; away from the "hand-held console-war"... We just don't know yet.
And, if that is the case, I think it'll work for the better.
All it would need is some kind of "little push" around the time of the PSP's release, and Nintendo's consistency would be kept in that number-one spot.
An all-new Mario adventure. Another Zelda. Maybe something that actually makes the GC-connectivity feature "appealing" to all...
Don't you see?
I'm not trying to say this is a bad idea, I just feel the timing could be all wrong, if it is to be used as to how we all think.
But, the thing we must remember is, 'we still don't know for sure'.
I mean, they haven't "confirmed" anything, as of yet. For all we know, they could plan on releasing it away from the mass-market; away from the "hand-held console-war"... We just don't know yet.
And, if that is the case, I think it'll work for the better.
This could be the biggest success, or the biggest failure for Nintendo, speaking from a NEUTRAL point of view. With the amount of money the industry costs/is worth these days, the big N must be pretty sure of this big step they're taking.
I'm going to wait until E3 before I start judging this and the PSP.
Right now I am going to focus on my GP32 - because it rocks.
I'm going to wait until E3 before I start judging this and the PSP.
Right now I am going to focus on my GP32 - because it rocks.
Solskjær wrote:
> It's the fact that they want it out by the end of the year that
> really confuses me. Yes, it is "revolutionary" and
> everything - and, before long, SONY and Micro$oft or someone will
> have nicked it - but why so soon?
Well let me think...
I wonder if there is some other handheld device released at the end of the year for Nintendo to compete with.
Can't think what it is though.
> It's the fact that they want it out by the end of the year that
> really confuses me. Yes, it is "revolutionary" and
> everything - and, before long, SONY and Micro$oft or someone will
> have nicked it - but why so soon?
Well let me think...
I wonder if there is some other handheld device released at the end of the year for Nintendo to compete with.
Can't think what it is though.
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