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Wed 21/01/04 at 12:32
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Sorry sorry sorry for that horrible title... but I had to think of something.

All I can say is wow, this seems an amazing Idea... Before Rickoss harps on about the Virtual Boy and 64DD may I point out that the VB enduced headaches which was why it failed and the 64DD was released too late.

This new DS probably means Nintendo are to abandon their GBA connectivity feature as this essentially does the same thing!!!!! For those who haven't read the press release I will put it down below, but this is a really fantastic original and pure fun idea.

In a shocking announcement which is set to rock the gaming world, Nintendo have released details of their forthcoming DS Portable gaming system. Rumours began flying a few weeks ago after mysterious words were uttered from Nintendo spokes people regarding a new machine. Some thought the machine would be the fabled “Game Boy Enhanced” with the mighty power to play Game Boy Advance AND Gamecube games, however this is not the case.


This surprising move from Nintendo sees them releasing a third stand-alone portable system to take games playing and interactivity to a completely different plane of existence! This new machine will feature not one but two 3” TFT LCD screens to allow for greater scope and perspective on the games. The two screens will be backlit to allow for poor-light play. The main processor is pparently an "ARM 9" with the Sub-processor an "ARM 7".

Here’s the official word from Nintendo:

”Players can look forward to being able to manage their game progress from two different perspectives, enhancing both the speed and strategy of the challenge. For example in a football game, you can view the whole game on one screen, while simultaneously focusing on an individual footballer's tackle or goal on the other screen. Players will no longer be forced to interrupt game play to shift perspective, such as moving from a wide shot to a close up, or alternating between a character's ongoing battle and a map of their environment. Nintendo DS makes it possible to perform the tasks in real time by simply glancing from one screen to the other.”

Self-styled “Funny Man of Gaming” and Nintendo president Satoru Iwata had this to say on the new product:

"We have developed Nintendo DS based upon a completely different concept from existing game devices in order to provide players with a unique entertainment experience for the 21st century"

The Nintendo DS will feature two separate screens, separate processors and a semiconductor memory of up to 1 gigabit. It will be marketed and sold as a separate entity to Game Boy Advance and the Gamecube systems. More information will be available at E3 when the system will be fully unveiled for the first time. Nintendo says we can expect a world-wide launch before the end of the year!

Cube-Europe.

DUDE!
Sat 24/01/04 at 17:15
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Yukikaze, I am going to keep this short unless you force me to do otherwise:

You know very little about what you're talking about. Your last post in here clealy demonstrates that.
Fri 23/01/04 at 23:52
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What do you mean WAS a big industry... Pokemon Ruby and Pokemon Sapphire are the number 1 and 2 biggest selling games of 2003.
Fri 23/01/04 at 22:59
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Cube Europe has the latest info: it should retail for just over £100, and have about three first party games ready for launch (this Xmas, in Japan anyway), one called "Buzz" by Miyamoto. Dev kits go out to developers right after E3.
Fri 23/01/04 at 21:31
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FantasyMeister wrote:
> The PSP hasn't even been made yet, let alone advertised.
> Pokemon has been a multibillion industry since it hit the Gameboy 8
> years ago.

Exactly. A machine that most people have barely seen yet, we know nothing about the games (though the new Edge has a few details about there being one game each at least from Namco, Koei, Konami, Capcom, Sega and Square, as well as first party titles all at launch) and people want it, magazines are talking about it. You don't go into any forum and see any criticism of it. Then compare to this new Nintendo thing. Also Pokemon HAS been a great industry. HAS. Not is. HAS.

>think about it this way, the Gameboy
> series of handhelds has been out there for years. If people haven't
> bought one by now, the chances are they're never going to anyway.

Which leaves one hell of a lot of people who play and buy games but have not been sold a handheld. Think about it this way. Kids grow up (shock horror), and most kids change in what they like. If you bought the original Pokemon there are pretty good odds you now despise Pokemon. You, as a consumer, will not buy something because of Pokemon anymore.

> And for future handhelds, which would you prefer for your gaming on
> the go?
> £50 handheld that plays Pokemon and other neat titles?
> £250 device that plays games, movies, online compatibility, PS2
> ports, MP3's etc.

The one with the best games and the best features from a company which has a record of success - waste of time buying a £50 machine if I am bored of it after a while and the games are crap or not varied enough. As it is not even the SP retails at £50 and the PSP is going to be about £200, I see the DS going for £129 probably, certainly not £50 unless Nintendo are prepared to make mass losses on hardware.

> I know which one the parents would go for for their kids, the
> £50 handheld that concentrates on games is always going to be
> the Christmas seller.

Well, from rather limited experience, I can say parents on the whole buy what their kids ask for and not just the cheapest thing. Yes some will, but most know that if littly Billy asks for console X and receives console Y then Christmas Day will be a living hell and console Y will be returned to the store on Boxing Day.

> PSP is a whole different market, therefore Nintendo shouldn't be
> worried. Their DS system just seems to be a panic reaction, as
> someone said earlier there's nothing wrong with the existing Nintendo
> handheld systems.

They should though. Nintendo needs new markets to expand its appeal and survive. People said the same when the Playstation launched. It was going after different markets at first, now people from age 5 onwards have them. Nintendo has sold less Cubes than N64 consoles, so either that many people stopped gaming altogether in large numbers, or they went elsewhere. I'll bet they have a Sony now, or an Xbox. The same could happen with handhelds quite easily, and rapidly because Nintendo do not seem to realise the situation and they do not seem capable of reacting convincingly to competition.
Fri 23/01/04 at 21:21
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I just prefer it on PS2, that's all.

The Dual Shock is a great controller for it, it runs perfectly, it's an incredible multiplayer game and it's just more accessable.

For me, the PS2 version's best.
Fri 23/01/04 at 20:38
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http://www.nintendojo.com/infocus/view_item.php?1074879344
Fri 23/01/04 at 19:59
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With what? Have you played the PC version on top resolution with all settings on high? Whats there to disagree with, the PC version looks and sounds better and people are doing free roster updates for download.
Fri 23/01/04 at 19:33
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Nah, I disagree.
Fri 23/01/04 at 18:10
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But the PC version looks better, sounds better and has free player updates. Who cares where the home of it is, its better on PC.
Fri 23/01/04 at 17:50
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ÂLІÂÎR wrote:
> Do people forget that there are game pads for the PC? Ones that make
> the Dual Shock 2 controller look like a prehistoric dil*o.

Nah, Pro Evo's just MADE for the PlayStation. It is its home.

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