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Being a die-hard Nintendo fan is not easy you know. Every morning I get up, bow to my Gamecube, kiss all my joy pads and religiously study the manuals of all my Nintendo games (SNES. NES, N64, Gamecube and Gameboy). Every piece of negative news I spin into a positive light, I do it so well, Nintendo should hire me as their PR wizard.
But I’ve had enough. Nintendo you are one ******* stupid bloody piece of ****. That’s right it is I, the legendary Dringo, he who can not be slain by Playstation and starves off the threat of the X-box who is saying this you proud ******. What the hell are you playing at? I’m a WESTERN NINTENDO FAN, I don’t get all those ******* titles from Japan with the words Giftipia or Animal Forest printed on the side. And the ones I do get, Doshin the ******* Giant, turns out to be a pile of utter toss.
Every time I spin some negative news article into a positive light but why? Who’s the idiot now ah? You cut second party ties with a certain Left Field, Left Field (NBA courtside and Excitebike 64) are your sports developer; they make your sports games. But oh look you don’t REALLY need them now SEGA has gone multi-format with their sports range. So remove them, who cares. Oh well look at that, less than a year later and SEGA cancel all their sports titles for the Gamecube. WOOPS! Now whom can you turn to? That’s right NO ONE, I have noticed you are now making your own mature sports games (the upcoming Legend of Golfer) but it’s too late.
Ah yes Nintendo, now onto Rare Ware. My previous status was that “they’re crap anyway” and that “they lost Nintendo money”. ********, you ARE dumb aren’t you Nintendo? Want to know why they didn’t make you much money in the year before you sold them? Because they didn’t ACTUALLY release any bloody games! Rare Ware are an unresponsive developer but they were your other half, they are more than Silicon Knights, Left Field, HAL etc... put together. They made Banjo, Conker, Killer Instinct, Donkey Kong and Perfect Dark… all of these are BIG Nintendo releases, well they would have been if you hadn’t ******* sold them! Look at this, your sales aren’t up to scratch! Could this be down to a certain absence of a company that made half your AAA titles? It nearly forced me away, but then that was okay, at least you have Retro Studios and Silicon Knights.
Oh Sympathy where have you gone.
First off you crush Retro Studio’s. A bit of a re-shuffle was needed, EAD’s help was appreciated on Metroid Prime. BUT did you really need to destroy the 4 teams that were there into 1? Raven Blade, that racer and that football game WAS exactly what Nintendo Gamecube lacks. A decent footy game, a decent exclusive racing title and a mature action RPG. But you cancelled them. Did you really have to scrap all those games?
And now modern day. The one that made me snap. I love Silicon Knights. True they are hardly a true example of Nintendo (prefer cinematic gameplay and adult games) but that was the point. Nintendo you’ve told me time and time again how you want to be more “adult” and Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes are YOUR most mature games. And you cut ties with the company behind them? Too Human can now return to the PS2, which it was originally coded for, and you’ve lost yet another special western developer.
I know Nintendo. You have loads of second parties, some I never even knew about including that new sports developer SETA (ever heard of them? No neither have I). But Rare, Silicon Knights, the full Retro team and Left Field could have all pushed Nintendo in both Europe and America. You would have defeated Microsoft and competed more fiercely. But instead you try to get exclusives from other companies that simply do not sell. Capcom are having to cancel their plans to keep Viewtiful Joe and Killer 7 exclusive and cannot wait for the Resident Evil deal to expire. Namco are doing okay but that’s because they hardly support Nintendo as much as they support Sony. SEGA have been drifting away ever so slowly, remember the Virtual Fighter RPG and the sonic series were once exclusive to Nintendo. They are both now lost.
So tell me Nintendo, who do you have left to sell your product to the western world? You don’t have Rare, you don’t have Silicon Knights, you don’t have Left field. Christ you don’t even have Capcom anymore. And in fact you’ve even lost Dringo, your most avid supporter. Sure I love Zelda and Mario, but I’m a western gamer, I have western needs and the only western game you actually make is Metroid Prime, and I don’t even like it.
Maybe one day you’ll acquire some killer, high profile companies such as Capcom, Midway or Free Radical Design. But in the mean time I need to raise funds for an X-box. After all a western Nintendo fan needs his Rare.
Dringo.
But I’ve had enough. Nintendo you are one ******* stupid bloody piece of ****. That’s right it is I, the legendary Dringo, he who can not be slain by Playstation and starves off the threat of the X-box who is saying this you proud ******. What the hell are you playing at? I’m a WESTERN NINTENDO FAN, I don’t get all those ******* titles from Japan with the words Giftipia or Animal Forest printed on the side. And the ones I do get, Doshin the ******* Giant, turns out to be a pile of utter toss.
Every time I spin some negative news article into a positive light but why? Who’s the idiot now ah? You cut second party ties with a certain Left Field, Left Field (NBA courtside and Excitebike 64) are your sports developer; they make your sports games. But oh look you don’t REALLY need them now SEGA has gone multi-format with their sports range. So remove them, who cares. Oh well look at that, less than a year later and SEGA cancel all their sports titles for the Gamecube. WOOPS! Now whom can you turn to? That’s right NO ONE, I have noticed you are now making your own mature sports games (the upcoming Legend of Golfer) but it’s too late.
Ah yes Nintendo, now onto Rare Ware. My previous status was that “they’re crap anyway” and that “they lost Nintendo money”. ********, you ARE dumb aren’t you Nintendo? Want to know why they didn’t make you much money in the year before you sold them? Because they didn’t ACTUALLY release any bloody games! Rare Ware are an unresponsive developer but they were your other half, they are more than Silicon Knights, Left Field, HAL etc... put together. They made Banjo, Conker, Killer Instinct, Donkey Kong and Perfect Dark… all of these are BIG Nintendo releases, well they would have been if you hadn’t ******* sold them! Look at this, your sales aren’t up to scratch! Could this be down to a certain absence of a company that made half your AAA titles? It nearly forced me away, but then that was okay, at least you have Retro Studios and Silicon Knights.
Oh Sympathy where have you gone.
First off you crush Retro Studio’s. A bit of a re-shuffle was needed, EAD’s help was appreciated on Metroid Prime. BUT did you really need to destroy the 4 teams that were there into 1? Raven Blade, that racer and that football game WAS exactly what Nintendo Gamecube lacks. A decent footy game, a decent exclusive racing title and a mature action RPG. But you cancelled them. Did you really have to scrap all those games?
And now modern day. The one that made me snap. I love Silicon Knights. True they are hardly a true example of Nintendo (prefer cinematic gameplay and adult games) but that was the point. Nintendo you’ve told me time and time again how you want to be more “adult” and Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes are YOUR most mature games. And you cut ties with the company behind them? Too Human can now return to the PS2, which it was originally coded for, and you’ve lost yet another special western developer.
I know Nintendo. You have loads of second parties, some I never even knew about including that new sports developer SETA (ever heard of them? No neither have I). But Rare, Silicon Knights, the full Retro team and Left Field could have all pushed Nintendo in both Europe and America. You would have defeated Microsoft and competed more fiercely. But instead you try to get exclusives from other companies that simply do not sell. Capcom are having to cancel their plans to keep Viewtiful Joe and Killer 7 exclusive and cannot wait for the Resident Evil deal to expire. Namco are doing okay but that’s because they hardly support Nintendo as much as they support Sony. SEGA have been drifting away ever so slowly, remember the Virtual Fighter RPG and the sonic series were once exclusive to Nintendo. They are both now lost.
So tell me Nintendo, who do you have left to sell your product to the western world? You don’t have Rare, you don’t have Silicon Knights, you don’t have Left field. Christ you don’t even have Capcom anymore. And in fact you’ve even lost Dringo, your most avid supporter. Sure I love Zelda and Mario, but I’m a western gamer, I have western needs and the only western game you actually make is Metroid Prime, and I don’t even like it.
Maybe one day you’ll acquire some killer, high profile companies such as Capcom, Midway or Free Radical Design. But in the mean time I need to raise funds for an X-box. After all a western Nintendo fan needs his Rare.
Dringo.
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Rickoss wrote:
>
> When did I say Cube beats all multiplayer?
Rickoss wrote:
> But multiplayer is always going to go
> to the Cube.
Let's hope you meant just YOUR choice of multiplayer then.
>
> When did I say Cube beats all multiplayer?
Rickoss wrote:
> But multiplayer is always going to go
> to the Cube.
Let's hope you meant just YOUR choice of multiplayer then.
No one's said that at all. I know online is great, as is system link, what I'm saying is that they're not exactly the most accessible of options.
When did I say Cube beats all multiplayer? When it comes to four-player splitscreen, I favour my Cube over PS2 and XBox. Is that so hard to understand? It's what I've been saying throughout the whole thread.
I personally prefer arcade-like play when it comes to multiplayer, as XIII's proved, depth isn't exactly a must for multiplayer. You want something that's easy and fun to play, which you'll be on for hours. That's what Pac-Man, Monkey Ball, Mario Kart and many others offer. If I do want depth, I tend to go for Co-Op games, like Halo, Rebel Strike, and surprisingly enough, Mario Kart.
Oh, and what's wrong with saying Pokemon is the GTA of the last generation, at the time it was the popular video on the market and nearly everyone I knew had it. It didn't matter that it was childish, it mattered that it was addictive and rather brilliant. It's still a hgue franchise but due to mroe adult-orientated series' (a la GTA), not quite as earth-shattering as it was. In terms of unique gameplay and huge popularity, yes it was last generation's GTA.
So the Cube hasn't found its Halo, its GTA, its Goldeneye, does that make it a bad console? Nope, we've already seen in the form of Mario Sunshine, Zelda, Prime, that this can certainly cut it in terms of games, but has yet to find a truly remarkable game that everyone wants. Although I have a feeling that may change soon.... Resident Evil 4, anyone...?
When did I say Cube beats all multiplayer? When it comes to four-player splitscreen, I favour my Cube over PS2 and XBox. Is that so hard to understand? It's what I've been saying throughout the whole thread.
I personally prefer arcade-like play when it comes to multiplayer, as XIII's proved, depth isn't exactly a must for multiplayer. You want something that's easy and fun to play, which you'll be on for hours. That's what Pac-Man, Monkey Ball, Mario Kart and many others offer. If I do want depth, I tend to go for Co-Op games, like Halo, Rebel Strike, and surprisingly enough, Mario Kart.
Oh, and what's wrong with saying Pokemon is the GTA of the last generation, at the time it was the popular video on the market and nearly everyone I knew had it. It didn't matter that it was childish, it mattered that it was addictive and rather brilliant. It's still a hgue franchise but due to mroe adult-orientated series' (a la GTA), not quite as earth-shattering as it was. In terms of unique gameplay and huge popularity, yes it was last generation's GTA.
So the Cube hasn't found its Halo, its GTA, its Goldeneye, does that make it a bad console? Nope, we've already seen in the form of Mario Sunshine, Zelda, Prime, that this can certainly cut it in terms of games, but has yet to find a truly remarkable game that everyone wants. Although I have a feeling that may change soon.... Resident Evil 4, anyone...?
Oh and Biggles I wouldn't bother if I were you.
I've seen desperation before in this forum, but some of the replies in this thread are platinum style desperation.
Yes online gaming sucks: that's why so many people play it.
Yes splitscreen is the only good multiplayer experience: that's why the alternatives sell well.
Yes the more money you spend on a multiplayer setup the worse it gets: that's why people still buy gaming PC's etc.
Yes not having to use memory cards is a real hassel when you've got 40 self-designed deathmatch levels, custom soundtracks and downloadable content.
Yes shortlived arcade-style games will always beat games that have enough depth to go on for years.
*Stabs forum repeatedly with chiselled bananas*
I've seen desperation before in this forum, but some of the replies in this thread are platinum style desperation.
Yes online gaming sucks: that's why so many people play it.
Yes splitscreen is the only good multiplayer experience: that's why the alternatives sell well.
Yes the more money you spend on a multiplayer setup the worse it gets: that's why people still buy gaming PC's etc.
Yes not having to use memory cards is a real hassel when you've got 40 self-designed deathmatch levels, custom soundtracks and downloadable content.
Yes shortlived arcade-style games will always beat games that have enough depth to go on for years.
*Stabs forum repeatedly with chiselled bananas*
Dringo wrote:
> Pokemon was the GTA of the last generation.
>
Oh dear, this is worse than the quote on Morrowind claiming it's the GTA of the Xbox.
Yes and Monkey Ball is the Halo of the Cube.
Honest, no really.
> Pokemon was the GTA of the last generation.
>
Oh dear, this is worse than the quote on Morrowind claiming it's the GTA of the Xbox.
Yes and Monkey Ball is the Halo of the Cube.
Honest, no really.
ÂLŠ†ÂÎR wrote:
> Dringo wrote:
> Living proof the PSP will fall.
>
> Ho ho.
>
> That is a tres stupid thing to say after the success of the
> PSONE/PS2.
I think the PSP will have a tougher time than some think, purely because the Gameboy IS the Playstation of handhelds. It has the brand name, the games, the backwards compatibility and the largest share of the market.
> Dringo wrote:
> Living proof the PSP will fall.
>
> Ho ho.
>
> That is a tres stupid thing to say after the success of the
> PSONE/PS2.
I think the PSP will have a tougher time than some think, purely because the Gameboy IS the Playstation of handhelds. It has the brand name, the games, the backwards compatibility and the largest share of the market.
Rickoss wrote:
>
> You don't need to be able to snap necks on a sperate screen to make a
> good game (Hedfix ;-)).
I never said that.
What I said was you can't say the cube owns ALL multiplayer if it can't replicate PC-style multiplayer or something which needs online/splitscreen stealth/both combined.
*Stabs repeatedly*
>
> You don't need to be able to snap necks on a sperate screen to make a
> good game (Hedfix ;-)).
I never said that.
What I said was you can't say the cube owns ALL multiplayer if it can't replicate PC-style multiplayer or something which needs online/splitscreen stealth/both combined.
*Stabs repeatedly*
I will say this on the subject of the PSP.
Wait and see.
Wait and see.
I suppose that is a valid point for some people. For me it isn't though, as amongst my group of friends, ages around something like 20 - 35 years old, the Xbox is the most popular by far. Followed by the Dreamcast, then PS2 then Cube last. I also have more than one TV, as do most of them. So if I go to Algy's I just dump the Xbox in a hold all and take it with me.
But I suppose everyone plays differently.
But I suppose everyone plays differently.
I have to say, System Link is the most unfeasible rubbish ever.
I know.... 2 other people with Xboxs - One is about 23 and I hardly ever see him, the other wouldn't even know or want to know what System Link is.
Plus the fact the Xbox is actually a huge ugly brick, and that TVs, aren't exactly pocket sized, it's a pretty exclusive mode.
I know.... 2 other people with Xboxs - One is about 23 and I hardly ever see him, the other wouldn't even know or want to know what System Link is.
Plus the fact the Xbox is actually a huge ugly brick, and that TVs, aren't exactly pocket sized, it's a pretty exclusive mode.
Rickoss wrote:
> You don't need to be able to snap necks on a sperate screen to make a
> good game (Hedfix ;-)).
It certainly helps though! I await the day when I can put other people's faces in games with joy...
On to the PSP being a flop thing...
Not a chance. The point Dringo(?) made about the parents not being happy buying to fork out £200 for a PSP when they could get a GBA for £80 is flawed.
1) Chances are that the PSP will be less than that. Sony want to win, they'll take the hit on hardware to shift units. 2) Parents cave in. My sister nagged my Dad to get her a kitten. He was determined not to. A month of "Dad, can you pass the salt and get me a kitten" eventually pushed him far enough that he bought two. If a kid wants a PSP for his birthday, chances are he'll get it.
You see the GBA has been a success not because it is a Nintendo product, but because it is the only serious handheld there is. Sheer weight of numbers kept the Neo Geo Pocket out of the market pretty much. In the same way that most 12 year olds get PS2s because all their mates have one.
But what you are forgetting is that Sony are "cool", Nintendo aren't. If Nintendo were "cool" to 12 year olds, they would all have Gamecubes, but they don't. Most of the people who buy Gamecubes are not first time console buyers.
Kids will want the PSP because it is a Sony. First time hand held owners will wait on it rather than the DS, because it is "cool". And the DS will lose out like the Dreamcast did. It will probably be the better system, at least games wise, but it won't be the cool one. The GBA will remain popular, mainly because so many people have them already. But the GBA2 will have to fight against "cool" Sony, and it will lose a lot of ground.
Sony aren't going after adults. They never have. They go after everyone by spewing rubbish in all genres. They'll blanket the handheld market with games and licenses and adverts until people equate handheld gaming with the PSP. They did it with the Playstation. They'll do it again. They are the kings of that. Hell, my mother knows of the Playstation. In fact, as far as she is concerned all consoles are Playstations, apart from the Sega (Master System that I had a million years ago).
Nintendo will have to play Sony at their own game or else the DS will lose out the most and the PSP will capture a fair bit of the next generation of handheld sales. I predict 10 - 15% DS, 35 - 40 %PSP and around 50% GBA2.
> You don't need to be able to snap necks on a sperate screen to make a
> good game (Hedfix ;-)).
It certainly helps though! I await the day when I can put other people's faces in games with joy...
On to the PSP being a flop thing...
Not a chance. The point Dringo(?) made about the parents not being happy buying to fork out £200 for a PSP when they could get a GBA for £80 is flawed.
1) Chances are that the PSP will be less than that. Sony want to win, they'll take the hit on hardware to shift units. 2) Parents cave in. My sister nagged my Dad to get her a kitten. He was determined not to. A month of "Dad, can you pass the salt and get me a kitten" eventually pushed him far enough that he bought two. If a kid wants a PSP for his birthday, chances are he'll get it.
You see the GBA has been a success not because it is a Nintendo product, but because it is the only serious handheld there is. Sheer weight of numbers kept the Neo Geo Pocket out of the market pretty much. In the same way that most 12 year olds get PS2s because all their mates have one.
But what you are forgetting is that Sony are "cool", Nintendo aren't. If Nintendo were "cool" to 12 year olds, they would all have Gamecubes, but they don't. Most of the people who buy Gamecubes are not first time console buyers.
Kids will want the PSP because it is a Sony. First time hand held owners will wait on it rather than the DS, because it is "cool". And the DS will lose out like the Dreamcast did. It will probably be the better system, at least games wise, but it won't be the cool one. The GBA will remain popular, mainly because so many people have them already. But the GBA2 will have to fight against "cool" Sony, and it will lose a lot of ground.
Sony aren't going after adults. They never have. They go after everyone by spewing rubbish in all genres. They'll blanket the handheld market with games and licenses and adverts until people equate handheld gaming with the PSP. They did it with the Playstation. They'll do it again. They are the kings of that. Hell, my mother knows of the Playstation. In fact, as far as she is concerned all consoles are Playstations, apart from the Sega (Master System that I had a million years ago).
Nintendo will have to play Sony at their own game or else the DS will lose out the most and the PSP will capture a fair bit of the next generation of handheld sales. I predict 10 - 15% DS, 35 - 40 %PSP and around 50% GBA2.
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