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Wed 14/04/04 at 10:15
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Being a die-hard Nintendo fan is not easy you know. Every morning I get up, bow to my Gamecube, kiss all my joy pads and religiously study the manuals of all my Nintendo games (SNES. NES, N64, Gamecube and Gameboy). Every piece of negative news I spin into a positive light, I do it so well, Nintendo should hire me as their PR wizard.

But I’ve had enough. Nintendo you are one ******* stupid bloody piece of ****. That’s right it is I, the legendary Dringo, he who can not be slain by Playstation and starves off the threat of the X-box who is saying this you proud ******. What the hell are you playing at? I’m a WESTERN NINTENDO FAN, I don’t get all those ******* titles from Japan with the words Giftipia or Animal Forest printed on the side. And the ones I do get, Doshin the ******* Giant, turns out to be a pile of utter toss.

Every time I spin some negative news article into a positive light but why? Who’s the idiot now ah? You cut second party ties with a certain Left Field, Left Field (NBA courtside and Excitebike 64) are your sports developer; they make your sports games. But oh look you don’t REALLY need them now SEGA has gone multi-format with their sports range. So remove them, who cares. Oh well look at that, less than a year later and SEGA cancel all their sports titles for the Gamecube. WOOPS! Now whom can you turn to? That’s right NO ONE, I have noticed you are now making your own mature sports games (the upcoming Legend of Golfer) but it’s too late.

Ah yes Nintendo, now onto Rare Ware. My previous status was that “they’re crap anyway” and that “they lost Nintendo money”. ********, you ARE dumb aren’t you Nintendo? Want to know why they didn’t make you much money in the year before you sold them? Because they didn’t ACTUALLY release any bloody games! Rare Ware are an unresponsive developer but they were your other half, they are more than Silicon Knights, Left Field, HAL etc... put together. They made Banjo, Conker, Killer Instinct, Donkey Kong and Perfect Dark… all of these are BIG Nintendo releases, well they would have been if you hadn’t ******* sold them! Look at this, your sales aren’t up to scratch! Could this be down to a certain absence of a company that made half your AAA titles? It nearly forced me away, but then that was okay, at least you have Retro Studios and Silicon Knights.

Oh Sympathy where have you gone.

First off you crush Retro Studio’s. A bit of a re-shuffle was needed, EAD’s help was appreciated on Metroid Prime. BUT did you really need to destroy the 4 teams that were there into 1? Raven Blade, that racer and that football game WAS exactly what Nintendo Gamecube lacks. A decent footy game, a decent exclusive racing title and a mature action RPG. But you cancelled them. Did you really have to scrap all those games?

And now modern day. The one that made me snap. I love Silicon Knights. True they are hardly a true example of Nintendo (prefer cinematic gameplay and adult games) but that was the point. Nintendo you’ve told me time and time again how you want to be more “adult” and Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes are YOUR most mature games. And you cut ties with the company behind them? Too Human can now return to the PS2, which it was originally coded for, and you’ve lost yet another special western developer.

I know Nintendo. You have loads of second parties, some I never even knew about including that new sports developer SETA (ever heard of them? No neither have I). But Rare, Silicon Knights, the full Retro team and Left Field could have all pushed Nintendo in both Europe and America. You would have defeated Microsoft and competed more fiercely. But instead you try to get exclusives from other companies that simply do not sell. Capcom are having to cancel their plans to keep Viewtiful Joe and Killer 7 exclusive and cannot wait for the Resident Evil deal to expire. Namco are doing okay but that’s because they hardly support Nintendo as much as they support Sony. SEGA have been drifting away ever so slowly, remember the Virtual Fighter RPG and the sonic series were once exclusive to Nintendo. They are both now lost.

So tell me Nintendo, who do you have left to sell your product to the western world? You don’t have Rare, you don’t have Silicon Knights, you don’t have Left field. Christ you don’t even have Capcom anymore. And in fact you’ve even lost Dringo, your most avid supporter. Sure I love Zelda and Mario, but I’m a western gamer, I have western needs and the only western game you actually make is Metroid Prime, and I don’t even like it.

Maybe one day you’ll acquire some killer, high profile companies such as Capcom, Midway or Free Radical Design. But in the mean time I need to raise funds for an X-box. After all a western Nintendo fan needs his Rare.

Dringo.
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Wed 14/04/04 at 12:09
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SETA -

8 Eyes - Nintendo Entertainment System
Adventures of Tom Sawyer - Nintendo Entertainment System
Battle Bull - GameBoy
Castle Dragon - Nintendo Entertainment System
Chopper Attack - Nintendo 64
F1-ROC II: Race of Champions - Super Nintendo
Kendo Rage - Super Nintendo
Musya - Super Nintendo
Nosferatu - Super Nintendo
Qbillion - GameBoy
The Wizard of Oz - Super Nintendo
Torpedo Range - GameBoy

More recently they are famed for a collection of Japanese style dating titles called Super Real.

They are VERY Eastern, have been around for ages and supported Nintendo avidly during the N64 era... joint with Konami.

Interesting.
Wed 14/04/04 at 12:10
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Chopper Attack is the only one I remember in there. If I'm right then I think N64 Magazine liked it - got about 80% on an import review. Obviously none of those games have come out over here, and I doubt this one will.
Wed 14/04/04 at 12:17
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gerrid! wrote:
> If cut scenes made games then Square-Enix would be the best developer
> on the planet. They're not.

No they don't. However when a game is damn near perfect in the first place it was all they could really do to it without tampering with the technical side. There are plenty of companies who would have gone either too far or not far enough with the cut scene editing, Silicon Knights though seemed to hit the nail on the head with every cut scene.
Wed 14/04/04 at 12:20
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They also made Tetris 64, Legend of Golfer is there first Gamecube game and they've released a load of fishing/golfing games for the Playstation as a part of the "perfect" series including "Perfect Golf" and "Perfect Fishing".

Thrilling stuff.

But as it turns out even Dringo didn't think properly. There are more than just Retro left in Nintendo's western camp. NST is an american based company that makes a whole host of Nintendo software including the below list. Apparently their building is adjacent to Nintendo of America. They've developed:

Game Boy Advance
Mario vs. Donkey Kong

Game Boy Color
Crystalis

GameCube
1080 Avalanche
Nintendo Puzzle Collection
Wave Race: Blue Storm

Nintendo 64
Pokemon Puzzle League
Ridge Racer 64

co-developer
GameCube
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time / Master Quest


And Nintendo also have second party Camelot, HAL and old Legends Intelligent Studios.
Wed 14/04/04 at 12:22
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gerrid! wrote:
> If cut scenes made games then Square-Enix would be the best developer
> on the planet. They're not.

Cut scenes? :\
Wed 14/04/04 at 12:22
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1080 and Wave Race are decent games but they are hardly top whack games that you rush out to buy, well they could've been but they didn't turn out that way.
Wed 14/04/04 at 12:27
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ÂLŠ†ÂÎR wrote:
> 1080 and Wave Race are decent games but they are hardly top whack
> games that you rush out to buy, well they could've been but they
> didn't turn out that way.

Wouldn't you think?

I know Blue Storm wasn't perfect but it was a nice title and 1080 avalanche, despite short, is utterly amazing.

Also Ridge Racer 64 was the best Racer on the N64.
Wed 14/04/04 at 12:28
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Dringo wrote:
> ÂLŠ†ÂÎR wrote:
> 1080 and Wave Race are decent games but they are hardly top whack
> games that you rush out to buy, well they could've been but they
> didn't turn out that way.
>
> Wouldn't you think?
>
> I know Blue Storm wasn't perfect but it was a nice title and 1080
> avalanche, despite short, is utterly amazing.
>
> Also Ridge Racer 64 was the best Racer on the N64.

Excitebike was so much better! :O
Wed 14/04/04 at 12:30
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I remember NST, they're the EAD of NOA. Ridge Racer 64 was excellent and one of my favourite racing games. There you go Dringo there's your sports developer, and they're better than Left Field as well.
Courtside 2002 was decent but when compared with NBA Live, or NBA Street, or the best sports game/genre on the planet - Madden 2004, it was pretty poor, and little more than a ported arcade b-ball game.
Wed 14/04/04 at 12:30
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They were enjoyable but they could've been so much more. Especially in terms of character animations, tricks and overall environmental/character texture levels on Wave Race. At times (despite awesome water effects) the game fealt a little ridged and clumpy to play.
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