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Tue 19/06/01 at 22:33
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Recently, Religion has come up in a number of discussions and it would be good to discuss them. EVERYONE has a belief. This topic has some effect in a lot of lifes.
Sun 22/07/01 at 08:48
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how is alcohol worse than drugs?
Sun 22/07/01 at 00:12
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i think heaven would be daunting if it were a place were everybody just looked back at your life and laughed at all your embassaring and private moments. that would truly suck.
Sun 22/07/01 at 00:08
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just one more thing i want to add to this. I have been a vegetarian all my life, i have never eaten meat and i am completly healty. I havnt been to the docters in 7 years. what does that tell ya?

oh yeah and some one was saying drugs are worse than alcohol, i honestly think that alcohol is worse than drugs.
Sat 21/07/01 at 23:54
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Goatboy you lead a strange life you know that?
Heavy Metal rock rap listener.
Reader of religous texts/philosopher the next?

You know what would be really funny to invite a jehova in and convert him to a different religion
or just undo his beliefs. An eye for an eye no less?
Sat 21/07/01 at 23:41
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Rakuga wrote:
> I think therefore I am. Therefore I'm not part of someones dream.

True.
But if someone has dreamed you to think that and in the dream you have these thoughts as part of the dream.
how can you be so sure that your not part of a dream?
What is "real" is all a matter of perspective.
Sat 21/07/01 at 21:03
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I think Veron said that the Devil is a servant of God.

In the Bible (which is what I believe in,) it says that the Devil is a fallen angel, who wanted to be as powerful as God (something like that, anyway,) and sorted started his own little thing in Hell.

The Devil's mission is to stop people being Christians. Once we are, he leaves us alone most of the time, occasionally tempting us, trying to make us feel bad when we've done it.

He mostly tempts non-christians, hoping that they won't become one of God's followers.

The Devil is very dangerous. A couple of nights before I was baptised I had a really bad night. I felt really bad about myself, and thought I was hopeless at everything. It really got me down, and I believe this was the Devil's final attempt to stop me getting baptised.
Sat 21/07/01 at 20:49
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I think therefore I am. Therefore I'm not part of someones dream.
Sat 21/07/01 at 18:05
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Tis a strange old world.
I dont think that in order to get into heaven you need to
Not have pre-marital shenanigans but you shouldnt give in to your impulses every five minutes.
Self-control should be shown.
Consume alcohol.
You can go out and get drunk just not every night of the week and again show some self control.
I do agree that you shouldnt take drugs.
A mother finding her son in the bath dead is not worth any kind of out of body experience.
you can eat whatever you want.
Everything else on the planet does.
How can you place so much value on a animals life but not a plants life. It too is alive i spose its ok because itsfurther down the food chain than most animals.....
If you respect others and there views
and treat others as you wish to be treated then you will get into "heaven".
Sometimes your passion for your own views does cloud your ability to make rational thought but we are creatures governed by our emotions.

I dont believe in God.
I hope there is such a being.
I think heaven is the eternal oblivion we get when we die when we no longer have to think and worry about it all.

Who cares where the universe comes from where did the matter that makes it up come from (same question i know really but a bit more accurate).
I dont where it come from maybe we are a sleepers dream and one day he/she will wake up
Sat 21/07/01 at 13:31
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Oh yes.. why I feel so strongly. My sister is a vegetarian and has been for a very long time. I feel she has missed out on some of the most wonderful foods in the world. Now she doesn't feel as strongly about it because I have explained why its unnecessary. The main reason I believe she doesn't want to eat meat now is that she thinks people will be annoyed at her for not keeping it up. Vegetarianism is a commitment NOT something you can that easily give up.

If it wasn't for her mixing with vegetarians she would still eat meat today. And I think vegetarianism is completely unnecessary and a stupid concept. Sorry but that's my opinion.
Sat 21/07/01 at 13:25
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Veron 4 wrote:
Everything on
> earth is put here for a meaning, just dont forget that

Yes it is. Many things are put on this earth to be eaten or to eat others.

> fish doesnt feel much pain when it dies, maybe it doesnt but it is a
> living creature that lives a happy life.

An average fish has a memory of 5 seconds (and so why they swim around a bowl). So when it dies all it can remember is 5 seconds of its happy life.

> this is true. BUt its all like a hierarcy. killing a human being
> at the top, and killing a plant at the bottom.

Some big fish eat smaller fish. I'm eating the big fish who killed the small fish so he's getting his comeuppance. Humans are omnivores who need both meat and plants. We are at the top of the food chain. If the sheep start getting really annoyed that they are being eaten by us they should adapt and start devouring us.

another
> thing, i didnt say everyone who eats meat goes to hell. we are
> already living in hell.

Nah this place ain't hell. Hells much worse I'm sure of it. This is just a challenge.

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