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I have very mixed feelings about this.
I'm looking forward to it, because it's a Final Fantasy and I lvoe FF games. However, X and X-2 were a huge disappointment to me (Especially compared to VII and VIII). The story's have been weaker, the FMVs at the end (which I found were really rewarding in VII and VIII) were short and uninteresting, and the soundtracks (X was pretty good, but X-2 was disgusting!) have been poorer.
I was disappoiinted as well to hear Nobuo Uematsu won't be doing FFXII apart from 1 song, so we can expect not to hear the tunes that have become symbolic of FF (the Victory Fanfare for instace). The other thing that worries me is the absence of Random Battles. Real Time is good, but I come to associate Random Battles with Final Fantasy, and I loved them!
What do you think? Another scratch on the name of Final Fantasy? Or are we going to see a triumphant return to form for Sakaguchi and his team?
(also...release date anyone?)
I'm looking forward to it, because it's a Final Fantasy and I lvoe FF games. However, X and X-2 were a huge disappointment to me (Especially compared to VII and VIII). The story's have been weaker, the FMVs at the end (which I found were really rewarding in VII and VIII) were short and uninteresting, and the soundtracks (X was pretty good, but X-2 was disgusting!) have been poorer.
I was disappoiinted as well to hear Nobuo Uematsu won't be doing FFXII apart from 1 song, so we can expect not to hear the tunes that have become symbolic of FF (the Victory Fanfare for instace). The other thing that worries me is the absence of Random Battles. Real Time is good, but I come to associate Random Battles with Final Fantasy, and I loved them!
What do you think? Another scratch on the name of Final Fantasy? Or are we going to see a triumphant return to form for Sakaguchi and his team?
(also...release date anyone?)
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Umm...I HAVE Rai, that's why I can present a decent argument!
Roll on FFXII!
Roll on FFXII!
Lukeman wrote:
> This is why CC failed for me. This is why I feel the Sony Final
> Fantasy games are the true definitive games. FFXII understands these
> points, and is going back to what made the classics like VII and VIII
> so successful.
Don't knock it until you've tried it.
> This is why CC failed for me. This is why I feel the Sony Final
> Fantasy games are the true definitive games. FFXII understands these
> points, and is going back to what made the classics like VII and VIII
> so successful.
Don't knock it until you've tried it.
Rai wrote:
> Screw the series! Accept new ideas! It's a little thing named
> innovation.
Final Fantasy XII is innovation. Getting rid of the random battles is a HUGE change.
But they are trying to keep the single player game the focus. Final Fantasy is known for being a role-playing game with deep storylines. When the best thing you can offer in a game is multiplayer monster bashing, where is the deep involving storyline? How can you enjoy it properly without a horde of friends crammed into the room?
This is why CC failed for me. This is why I feel the Sony Final Fantasy games are the true definitive games. FFXII understands these points, and is going back to what made the classics like VII and VIII so successful.
> Screw the series! Accept new ideas! It's a little thing named
> innovation.
Final Fantasy XII is innovation. Getting rid of the random battles is a HUGE change.
But they are trying to keep the single player game the focus. Final Fantasy is known for being a role-playing game with deep storylines. When the best thing you can offer in a game is multiplayer monster bashing, where is the deep involving storyline? How can you enjoy it properly without a horde of friends crammed into the room?
This is why CC failed for me. This is why I feel the Sony Final Fantasy games are the true definitive games. FFXII understands these points, and is going back to what made the classics like VII and VIII so successful.
Lukeman wrote:
> I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying it shouldn't have been released
> as a "Final Fantasy", because it doesn't keep with the
> systems etc of the series. For example, if "Pro Evoloution
> Soccer 6" was made into a cricket game, would you say it was a
> game that was well suited to that series?
Screw the series! Accept new ideas! It's a little thing named innovation.
> I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying it shouldn't have been released
> as a "Final Fantasy", because it doesn't keep with the
> systems etc of the series. For example, if "Pro Evoloution
> Soccer 6" was made into a cricket game, would you say it was a
> game that was well suited to that series?
Screw the series! Accept new ideas! It's a little thing named innovation.
Fair play...
Still didn't like it though! XD This one's on the pile with Spirits Within..... this is the pile that doesn't get mentioned when I'm arguing that FF is the best series of all time! lol
Still didn't like it though! XD This one's on the pile with Spirits Within..... this is the pile that doesn't get mentioned when I'm arguing that FF is the best series of all time! lol
That's even less logical! Pro Evo as a cricket game is entirely different. That change would be turning FF into a game based on King Arthur with 3rd person combat etc.
FF: CC had magic, similar themes, music etc to the other Final Fantasys. FF in itself changes everyime - so what, they made it 4 player, that doesn't make it 'not' Final Fantasy, considering Square made it and they decide.
FF: CC had magic, similar themes, music etc to the other Final Fantasys. FF in itself changes everyime - so what, they made it 4 player, that doesn't make it 'not' Final Fantasy, considering Square made it and they decide.
Cycloon wrote:
> That's like saying a band that is traditionally folk releases a rock
> album and it's bad simply because it's rock, not because it's bad
> music.
>
> Irrational.
I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying it shouldn't have been released as a "Final Fantasy", because it doesn't keep with the systems etc of the series. For example, if "Pro Evoloution Soccer 6" was made into a cricket game, would you say it was a game that was well suited to that series?
> That's like saying a band that is traditionally folk releases a rock
> album and it's bad simply because it's rock, not because it's bad
> music.
>
> Irrational.
I'm not saying it's bad, I'm saying it shouldn't have been released as a "Final Fantasy", because it doesn't keep with the systems etc of the series. For example, if "Pro Evoloution Soccer 6" was made into a cricket game, would you say it was a game that was well suited to that series?
That's like saying a band that is traditionally folk releases a rock album and it's bad simply because it's rock, not because it's bad music.
Irrational.
Irrational.
Morbo wrote:
> I only played single once as it bored me.
There ya go Rai...THAT'S why CC is widely considered a poor Final Fantasy. FF is a series BUILT on single player! FFVII didn't BORE people on single player. There's your reason.
> I only played single once as it bored me.
There ya go Rai...THAT'S why CC is widely considered a poor Final Fantasy. FF is a series BUILT on single player! FFVII didn't BORE people on single player. There's your reason.
Rai wrote:
> CC looks fun in multiplayer, and I hope that I'll be Thundering you
> soon.
It is fun in multiplayer, I only played single once as it bored me. But once my mate came round and we played 2 player all my doubts where gone. we completed it in a few days, but that was back in the time of much free time, unlike these days.
> CC looks fun in multiplayer, and I hope that I'll be Thundering you
> soon.
It is fun in multiplayer, I only played single once as it bored me. But once my mate came round and we played 2 player all my doubts where gone. we completed it in a few days, but that was back in the time of much free time, unlike these days.
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