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In light of the recent devastation down in New Orleans, and Bush's slowness in responding with anything other than flying over in a helicopter and hugging a couple of folks in Mississippi, NBC broadcast a benefit/donation show with loads of stars asking for help to be donated.
All goes well, donations come in.
Until Mike Myers & Kanye West do their bit in the studio.
Myers explaining what has happened, the destruction and lives lost.
Kanye West's turn comes up and he deviates from the autocue and delivers an unscripted outburst criticising Bush and the government for not doing anything in a system that "is set up to help the poor and the blacks as slowly as posisble" and pointing out that a third of the National Gaurd are in Iraq anyway, and that "they've given them permission to go down and shoot us"
Myers looking off-camera with a "Help" expression before attempting to steer it back on course, before West delivers his final statement. Cameras cut away to Chris Rock looking unprepared.
This segment was cut from the repeated broadcast by NBC who felt that "one persons comments shouldn't overshadow this tragedy"
Bear in mind that Kanye West was the biggest selling rap/RnB artist of last year and has a new album out to promote.
And he's risked that to deliver a genuinely angry, outraged statement that an awful lot of people are thinking but nobody is saying on the television.
Watch, enjoy and pass along as the largest selling recording Artist of 2004 alienates the Christian right-wing element of America by simply refusing to play along and speaking from his heart.
Outstanding and I'm buying his album purely to support somebody willing to risk **EDITED FOR THE BONUS OF BLANK** minor financial loss in the short term but possible gain when balanced against the projected earnings from previously unaware members of the public who wish to support somebody speaking out on National Television*** because they cant sit back and say nothing
[URL]http://gorillamask.net/kanyebush.shtml[/URL]
All goes well, donations come in.
Until Mike Myers & Kanye West do their bit in the studio.
Myers explaining what has happened, the destruction and lives lost.
Kanye West's turn comes up and he deviates from the autocue and delivers an unscripted outburst criticising Bush and the government for not doing anything in a system that "is set up to help the poor and the blacks as slowly as posisble" and pointing out that a third of the National Gaurd are in Iraq anyway, and that "they've given them permission to go down and shoot us"
Myers looking off-camera with a "Help" expression before attempting to steer it back on course, before West delivers his final statement. Cameras cut away to Chris Rock looking unprepared.
This segment was cut from the repeated broadcast by NBC who felt that "one persons comments shouldn't overshadow this tragedy"
Bear in mind that Kanye West was the biggest selling rap/RnB artist of last year and has a new album out to promote.
And he's risked that to deliver a genuinely angry, outraged statement that an awful lot of people are thinking but nobody is saying on the television.
Watch, enjoy and pass along as the largest selling recording Artist of 2004 alienates the Christian right-wing element of America by simply refusing to play along and speaking from his heart.
Outstanding and I'm buying his album purely to support somebody willing to risk **EDITED FOR THE BONUS OF BLANK** minor financial loss in the short term but possible gain when balanced against the projected earnings from previously unaware members of the public who wish to support somebody speaking out on National Television*** because they cant sit back and say nothing
[URL]http://gorillamask.net/kanyebush.shtml[/URL]
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Sibs wrote:
> munn wrote:
> I think it all tends to be misunderstood.
>
> Most people won't mind Ms Black America's and Mobo's (Which can
> still
> be won by white people surely as long as the music is of black
> origin?), it's the idea that if there was a Ms White America or
> Mowo's, it would instantly be deemed racist, as politically
> correctness seems to think that anything which involves white
> people,
> but not black is automatically racist.
>
> I wouldn't think these 'white' things necessarily racist, just
> pointless. Surely the point of Ms Black America is (or was
> originally, I'm sure now it's used to advertise beer, or toothpaste
> or cigarettes or something white men make millions from...) that
> black people were oppressed for years and couldn't participate in...
> well, just about anything.
Well, that would explain why it's only "Ms" Black America then, as woman weren't allowed to participate in anything either?
> What would a Ms White America be proving exactly...? And what exactly
> would a MOWO mean...? What genre(s) would MOWOs even encompass for
> that matter?
Ms Black America doesn't prove anything either - it only shows which black woman is the hottest.
As for Mowo's, i didn't say there should be Mowo's, but if there were, all I'm saying is it would instantly be deemed racist, and that's teh problem most people have with things like Mobo's, they're not offended that it's only for music of black origin, they feel as if they're being treated like second class citizens because if they were to do the same thing for white people, it wouldn't be allowed.
>
>
> Woman are AWFUL drivers.
> But (apparently) crash less. But hey, what do I know, I canna drive
> and I'm 19... Just seems like a massive waste of money to me. Once
> you've paid for a car, lessons, insurance, test... Well, think of all
> the other crap you could've got... Then you still have to buy petrol
> (currently at some really high price due to evil 'turrists) every
> time you wanna go somewhere.
It appears like a waste of money, it probably cost me about 500 quid just to pass my test. Then insurance is high, petrol is a lot and it costs money to buy a car (which I didn't do, as I drive my mums), but it's not that bad.
The petrol tank holds about 10-12 gallons, and the car averages about 40 miles to the gallon, go I'm getting 400-500 miles for about 35 quid. It costs me about 3.50 for a train ticket to glasgow (off-peak hours), so I can only get about 10 tickets for the same price as the petrol, then I'm still only limited to where that train can go.
It cost me 1 pound for a single ticket home from the nearest town yesterday by bus. The nearest town is less than a mile away. a pound per mile? No thanks.
I prefer driving a car to public transport any day.
> munn wrote:
> I think it all tends to be misunderstood.
>
> Most people won't mind Ms Black America's and Mobo's (Which can
> still
> be won by white people surely as long as the music is of black
> origin?), it's the idea that if there was a Ms White America or
> Mowo's, it would instantly be deemed racist, as politically
> correctness seems to think that anything which involves white
> people,
> but not black is automatically racist.
>
> I wouldn't think these 'white' things necessarily racist, just
> pointless. Surely the point of Ms Black America is (or was
> originally, I'm sure now it's used to advertise beer, or toothpaste
> or cigarettes or something white men make millions from...) that
> black people were oppressed for years and couldn't participate in...
> well, just about anything.
Well, that would explain why it's only "Ms" Black America then, as woman weren't allowed to participate in anything either?
> What would a Ms White America be proving exactly...? And what exactly
> would a MOWO mean...? What genre(s) would MOWOs even encompass for
> that matter?
Ms Black America doesn't prove anything either - it only shows which black woman is the hottest.
As for Mowo's, i didn't say there should be Mowo's, but if there were, all I'm saying is it would instantly be deemed racist, and that's teh problem most people have with things like Mobo's, they're not offended that it's only for music of black origin, they feel as if they're being treated like second class citizens because if they were to do the same thing for white people, it wouldn't be allowed.
>
>
> Woman are AWFUL drivers.
> But (apparently) crash less. But hey, what do I know, I canna drive
> and I'm 19... Just seems like a massive waste of money to me. Once
> you've paid for a car, lessons, insurance, test... Well, think of all
> the other crap you could've got... Then you still have to buy petrol
> (currently at some really high price due to evil 'turrists) every
> time you wanna go somewhere.
It appears like a waste of money, it probably cost me about 500 quid just to pass my test. Then insurance is high, petrol is a lot and it costs money to buy a car (which I didn't do, as I drive my mums), but it's not that bad.
The petrol tank holds about 10-12 gallons, and the car averages about 40 miles to the gallon, go I'm getting 400-500 miles for about 35 quid. It costs me about 3.50 for a train ticket to glasgow (off-peak hours), so I can only get about 10 tickets for the same price as the petrol, then I'm still only limited to where that train can go.
It cost me 1 pound for a single ticket home from the nearest town yesterday by bus. The nearest town is less than a mile away. a pound per mile? No thanks.
I prefer driving a car to public transport any day.
gerrid wrote:
> Sheesh Light, get a grip. We can discuss whatever the hell we want.
So...in order to express the sentiment "we can say what we want, and you can't stop us", you try to tell me to stop saying what I want?
Ri-ight...
> How do you know we haven't already discussed this topic before and
> are now talking about a new aspect of it (what it will do to his
> career)?
Have you?
> Don't have a fit just because everyone doesn't start
> clapping Kanye on the back in this particular thread.
~sigh~ If you'd like to read it thoroughly, you'll note I didn't resort to insults in any way. Just gave my opinion and debated both it and Blanks. My apologies if you were unable to see that in your keenness to have a go.
> Sheesh Light, get a grip. We can discuss whatever the hell we want.
So...in order to express the sentiment "we can say what we want, and you can't stop us", you try to tell me to stop saying what I want?
Ri-ight...
> How do you know we haven't already discussed this topic before and
> are now talking about a new aspect of it (what it will do to his
> career)?
Have you?
> Don't have a fit just because everyone doesn't start
> clapping Kanye on the back in this particular thread.
~sigh~ If you'd like to read it thoroughly, you'll note I didn't resort to insults in any way. Just gave my opinion and debated both it and Blanks. My apologies if you were unable to see that in your keenness to have a go.
Well like I said it'll make people who agree with him buy his records, and people who don't won't buy them, so in the end I don't think he will suffer too much. He's a rap artist so his career will thrive on this controversy, which is good, because it means he'll still be around to speak his mind on these issues.
I expect his career will be fine.
Even if he becomes unpopular in America I doubt he'll be unpopular elsewhere (a la Cypress Hill).
People drop the latest thing very quickly in America anyway.
Even if he becomes unpopular in America I doubt he'll be unpopular elsewhere (a la Cypress Hill).
People drop the latest thing very quickly in America anyway.
Light wrote:
> What I'm trying to say is, upon reading of an act of singular
> courage, your only response was "Well...I don't think
> he'll be ruined. What do you mean by ruined exactly?". I'm sure
> it didn't mean to come across this way, but it just sounded petty on
> your part. Just my opinion.
Sheesh Light, get a grip. We can discuss whatever the hell we want. How do you know we haven't already discussed this topic before and are now talking about a new aspect of it (what it will do to his career)? Don't have a fit just because everyone doesn't start clapping Kanye on the back in this particular thread.
> What I'm trying to say is, upon reading of an act of singular
> courage, your only response was "Well...I don't think
> he'll be ruined. What do you mean by ruined exactly?". I'm sure
> it didn't mean to come across this way, but it just sounded petty on
> your part. Just my opinion.
Sheesh Light, get a grip. We can discuss whatever the hell we want. How do you know we haven't already discussed this topic before and are now talking about a new aspect of it (what it will do to his career)? Don't have a fit just because everyone doesn't start clapping Kanye on the back in this particular thread.
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munn wrote:
> So then why are you praising him for saying he thinks the Government
> are racist if you think he's wrong?
> Maybe everyone else also thinks he's wrong and that's why no-one else
> said it before him?
Hmm...that must be why Timmargh posted a thread about the newspaper articles referring to black people as "looters", but good ol' white people had merely "found" the goods...Oh, and why debate about whether or not the goverment response is racist got to such a pitch after West said what he said, that Condaleeza Rice had to make a statement denying it.
I'm praising him because he had the balls to say what a lot of people were thinking, when everyone else was happy to tow the line and not say a word about how criminally inept the relief and rescue operation was.
[edit] Was gonna proceed onto a long, loooong rant about the social divide, but I see it's been done already.
> So then why are you praising him for saying he thinks the Government
> are racist if you think he's wrong?
> Maybe everyone else also thinks he's wrong and that's why no-one else
> said it before him?
Hmm...that must be why Timmargh posted a thread about the newspaper articles referring to black people as "looters", but good ol' white people had merely "found" the goods...Oh, and why debate about whether or not the goverment response is racist got to such a pitch after West said what he said, that Condaleeza Rice had to make a statement denying it.
I'm praising him because he had the balls to say what a lot of people were thinking, when everyone else was happy to tow the line and not say a word about how criminally inept the relief and rescue operation was.
[edit] Was gonna proceed onto a long, loooong rant about the social divide, but I see it's been done already.
Azul luvs u wrote:
> Just because they weren't discussing that certain point doesn't mean
> they were missing it. Just because they were talking about another
> related point doesn't mean they missed "THE *(^(ING POINT"
> that you claim they are
And at least they're actually talking about it. Rather than trying to boost his ever-flagging sense of self-esteem by getting enchanted at making what you imagine to be clever jibes.
I've explained why I thought they missed it. ~shrugs~ Ain't my fault you're so stupid that you only bother to read the sentence (or just the word) that enables you to fire off another hilarious comment.
> Just because they weren't discussing that certain point doesn't mean
> they were missing it. Just because they were talking about another
> related point doesn't mean they missed "THE *(^(ING POINT"
> that you claim they are
And at least they're actually talking about it. Rather than trying to boost his ever-flagging sense of self-esteem by getting enchanted at making what you imagine to be clever jibes.
I've explained why I thought they missed it. ~shrugs~ Ain't my fault you're so stupid that you only bother to read the sentence (or just the word) that enables you to fire off another hilarious comment.
Azul luvs u wrote:
> BAhahahahah go figure.
???
> BAhahahahah go figure.
???
Game wrote:
> I was looking through the Daily Mail...
BAhahahahah go figure.
> I was looking through the Daily Mail...
BAhahahahah go figure.
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