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Wed 17/08/05 at 20:33
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it just happened the danes scored three in a row in under 5 mins


why.........?
Fri 19/08/05 at 19:32
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QuAgMiRe wrote:
> Yeah but we could switch wright-phillips and cole between downing and
> beckham.

Who would become the defensive midfielder if Beckham moves onto the right flank?
Fri 19/08/05 at 19:32
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Foreman wrote:
> That would be too narrow. Both Wright-Phillips and Cole would have
> nobody overlappng and would get caught out too often. The other team
> can then counter down the flank and with one of the centre backs
> committing it would leave serious gaps for others to explore.
>
> It would also mean all our attacks would have to come from the middle
> with through balls.
>
> It will also be very tiring for both Cole and Wright-Phillips doing
> this for 90 minutes and then having to play like that again 3-4 days
> later.

I see your point but that's why I said that Rooney was the key.

He's the one that needs to make everything click together up front and support either Cole or SWP when needed, sweeping across that final third as he does so effectively for Man Utd. Ashley Cole is probably up there with Cafu in terms of stamina, and SWP was ever-present right the way up and down the right-flank last season at Man City.

Whatsmore, with Beckham behind, Gerrard and Lampard would have free attacking roles and could occasionally stray to the left or right to support on the wing as they often do for their clubs.
Fri 19/08/05 at 19:31
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Kawada wrote:
> Poor mites, 90 minutes of work twice a week plus training. How do
> they ever cope?

They're human just like us and fatigue will start kicking in when playing in the World Cup. They'd be doing twice as much the workload if they had no wingers to overlap.

Don't forget the other team will have 2 widemen on each side, meaning they won't have to put as much effort in come back if they get caught out where England would.
Fri 19/08/05 at 19:27
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Yeah but we could switch wright-phillips and cole between downing and beckham.
Fri 19/08/05 at 19:26
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Foreman wrote:
> It will also be very tiring for both Cole and Wright-Phillips doing
> this for 90 minutes and then having to play like that again 3-4 days
> later.


Poor mites, 90 minutes of work twice a week plus training. How do they ever cope?
Fri 19/08/05 at 19:22
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That would be too narrow. Both Wright-Phillips and Cole would have nobody overlappng and would get caught out too often. The other team can then counter down the flank and with one of the centre backs committing it would leave serious gaps for others to explore.

It would also mean all our attacks would have to come from the middle with through balls.

It will also be very tiring for both Cole and Wright-Phillips doing this for 90 minutes and then having to play like that again 3-4 days later.
Fri 19/08/05 at 19:20
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Mav wrote:
> But Wright-Phillips and Ashley Cole would be helped out defensively
> when they're caught out and can't get back in time. The defender
> closest to the left/right flank would drift over, leaving the other
> two to defend the box. This would actually prove a tougher defence
> against strong wingers than we have currently.
>
> And I think you do still need a holding-role midfielder, as
> this doesn't solve the problem that we will be caught short if
> somebody cuts in behind Gerrard or Lampard.

Oh if only sven was a member of Sr...
Fri 19/08/05 at 19:19
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Stryke wrote:
> Glen Johnson is not good. Sorry to break it to you, and all, but he's
> only just about fit for the U21s, and even then he'll get Carson
> yelling at him.

I know glen johnson is not good, but he's about as good as we have got.
Fri 19/08/05 at 19:12
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But Wright-Phillips and Ashley Cole would be helped out defensively when they're caught out and can't get back in time. The defender closest to the left/right flank would drift over, leaving the other two to defend the box. This would actually prove a tougher defence against strong wingers than we have currently.

And I think you do still need a holding-role midfielder, as this doesn't solve the problem that we will be caught short if somebody cuts in behind Gerrard or Lampard.
Fri 19/08/05 at 19:12
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Glen Johnson is not good. Sorry to break it to you, and all, but he's only just about fit for the U21s, and even then he'll get Carson yelling at him.

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