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For some people it's straight forward, for some they're not bothered and those who can't decide (Agnostics), because I find that each of the topic need more info :
Science
1.The Big Bang Theory - a logical idea, but where does the all the matter in the univrse come from in the first place? Which is compressed in very small space and then exploded.
2.How did the first creatures came into existence out of a stable environment?
3.How did the Big Bang created resources on earth?
e.g metal ores, soil, etc
Religion
1.How did God appear in existence and then create life; perhaps something else created God?
2."God love and care" for people, yet if bad things happen to good people why doesn't God do something about it.
3.How does religion explains the end of life when the sun turns into a red giant and explodes creating a black hole and sucking anything near it?
Which leads me to conclude on my theory that:
God created Earth and all life, then let the people to decide whether they believe in God or not.
Assuming God is in existence, God thought about what life materials life would need and created them within Earth?
The end of life when the sun enlarges and the explodes, perhaps too many people sinned? God did not intend for life to carry on?
Any ideas?
Science
1.The Big Bang Theory - a logical idea, but where does the all the matter in the univrse come from in the first place? Which is compressed in very small space and then exploded.
2.How did the first creatures came into existence out of a stable environment?
3.How did the Big Bang created resources on earth?
e.g metal ores, soil, etc
Religion
1.How did God appear in existence and then create life; perhaps something else created God?
2."God love and care" for people, yet if bad things happen to good people why doesn't God do something about it.
3.How does religion explains the end of life when the sun turns into a red giant and explodes creating a black hole and sucking anything near it?
Which leads me to conclude on my theory that:
God created Earth and all life, then let the people to decide whether they believe in God or not.
Assuming God is in existence, God thought about what life materials life would need and created them within Earth?
The end of life when the sun enlarges and the explodes, perhaps too many people sinned? God did not intend for life to carry on?
Any ideas?
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Well basically, the world after Noah's Ark was a very different place, which is why humans only live to around 100 now when they used to live to 300/400 etc.
And so through much less food, more competition, the increasing ability of men to kill animals, other planetary changes and catastrophes etc. many species of animal died out, including the dinosaur.
General, I understand, but it's all I know really. But the argument is that the world was such a different place, that the dinosaurs just slowly but surely couldn't cope and died out. Animals still become extinct nowadays, so perhaps that's what happened to the dinosaurs.
EDIT - and obviously humans survived because we were far more intelligent...supposedly anyway. :P
And so through much less food, more competition, the increasing ability of men to kill animals, other planetary changes and catastrophes etc. many species of animal died out, including the dinosaur.
General, I understand, but it's all I know really. But the argument is that the world was such a different place, that the dinosaurs just slowly but surely couldn't cope and died out. Animals still become extinct nowadays, so perhaps that's what happened to the dinosaurs.
EDIT - and obviously humans survived because we were far more intelligent...supposedly anyway. :P
But then what killed them?
If there were no climate factors/natural disasters to kill humans what happened to the dinosaurs? Did they just suddenly disappear?
If there were no climate factors/natural disasters to kill humans what happened to the dinosaurs? Did they just suddenly disappear?
Eurgh here we go again.
If dinosaurs were around after the flood, then where would they go to afterwards? They won't just have sailed off into the moon.
If dinosaurs were around after the flood, then where would they go to afterwards? They won't just have sailed off into the moon.
Well, if you remember Noah actually SAVES some animals, doesn't he!? And therefore, he would have saved two dinosaurs, probably younger ones so they could actually fit.
Therefore, dinosaurs could still have been walking around during Job's time.
Therefore, dinosaurs could still have been walking around during Job's time.
Dinosaurs were in the book of Job, right?
But the book of Job comes after the flood?
So...the dinosaurs die, then X years later they're wandering around eating people and walking over buildings in the Book of Job?
makes sense to me!
But the book of Job comes after the flood?
So...the dinosaurs die, then X years later they're wandering around eating people and walking over buildings in the Book of Job?
makes sense to me!
Ant wrote:
> But what the hey, scientists (and therefore most of the general
> public) will say differently.
They have reasoning behind their views
I don't see any reasoning behind yours, apart from the fact that there's no evidence refuting what it says in a very old book.
> But what the hey, scientists (and therefore most of the general
> public) will say differently.
They have reasoning behind their views
I don't see any reasoning behind yours, apart from the fact that there's no evidence refuting what it says in a very old book.
Colourless wrote:
> Memorandum! wrote:
> Well, dinosaurs obviously aren't in the Bible seeing as they had
> been
> extinct for a few million years before the time in which it was
> written.
>
> As a concept, that doesn't work, because people are still writing
> books about things that happened hundreds of years ago. Maybe
> practically speaking there's a difference between millions of years
> and hundreds of years, and today's science and technology helps, but
> still that principle isn't really valid.
I've read this several times and I still can't understand what you're saying.
> Memorandum! wrote:
> Well, dinosaurs obviously aren't in the Bible seeing as they had
> been
> extinct for a few million years before the time in which it was
> written.
>
> As a concept, that doesn't work, because people are still writing
> books about things that happened hundreds of years ago. Maybe
> practically speaking there's a difference between millions of years
> and hundreds of years, and today's science and technology helps, but
> still that principle isn't really valid.
I've read this several times and I still can't understand what you're saying.
Well my argument isn't infallible, at all. There ARE flaws, I'm just presenting the other theory, because people seem to assume that it is fact that dinosaurs weren't in the bible, and that it's fact that lived millions of years ago etc. Okay, there is some evidence for it, but there's evidence against it as well.
And yes, I'll admit the Bible has contradictions too, if you take it word for word anyway. But some of it also should be taken word for word, after all, you can't just go and simply change God's word to fit a certain explanation.
Anyways, I appreciate that you're not getting at my belief entirely. Which is why, in reality, this argument is a little stupid. :P
And yes, I'll admit the Bible has contradictions too, if you take it word for word anyway. But some of it also should be taken word for word, after all, you can't just go and simply change God's word to fit a certain explanation.
Anyways, I appreciate that you're not getting at my belief entirely. Which is why, in reality, this argument is a little stupid. :P
Ant wrote:
> Well, the flood of Noah's Ark according to Christian belief happened
> around 4000 years ago, and it was this massive flooding that caused
> and formed many of the fossil layers around the Earth. And so because
> we can assume that most of the dinos died during this flooding, then
> we can say that their fossils were formed around 4000 years ago, not
> the millions of years that is commonly believed.
>
> But what the hey, scientists (and therefore most of the general
> public) will say differently.
You know that fossils are formed over the course of thousands of years?
Things don't just die and then POOF! they're a fossil.
Also, carbon dating isn't 100% accurate, but it isn't inaccurate to the point of being off by 100 million years.
> Well, the flood of Noah's Ark according to Christian belief happened
> around 4000 years ago, and it was this massive flooding that caused
> and formed many of the fossil layers around the Earth. And so because
> we can assume that most of the dinos died during this flooding, then
> we can say that their fossils were formed around 4000 years ago, not
> the millions of years that is commonly believed.
>
> But what the hey, scientists (and therefore most of the general
> public) will say differently.
You know that fossils are formed over the course of thousands of years?
Things don't just die and then POOF! they're a fossil.
Also, carbon dating isn't 100% accurate, but it isn't inaccurate to the point of being off by 100 million years.
oh, and I'm not getting at you, ant, becuase you believe in God, or are a Christian. I'm getting at you because you just seem to blindfold everything that you believe, no matter how vague or how much may be based on no logical reason as a matter of "faith"
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