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"Sciene and religion"

For some people it's straight forward, for some they're not bothered and those who can't decide (Agnostics), because I find that each of the topic need more info :

Science
1.The Big Bang Theory - a logical idea, but where does the all the matter in the univrse come from in the first place? Which is compressed in very small space and then exploded.

2.How did the first creatures came into existence out of a stable environment?

3.How did the Big Bang created resources on earth?
e.g metal ores, soil, etc


Religion
1.How did God appear in existence and then create life; perhaps something else created God?

2."God love and care" for people, yet if bad things happen to good people why doesn't God do something about it.

3.How does religion explains the end of life when the sun turns into a red giant and explodes creating a black hole and sucking anything near it?

Which leads me to conclude on my theory that:
God created Earth and all life, then let the people to decide whether they believe in God or not.
Assuming God is in existence, God thought about what life materials life would need and created them within Earth?
The end of life when the sun enlarges and the explodes, perhaps too many people sinned? God did not intend for life to carry on?

Any ideas?

Well, the flood of Noah's Ark according to Christian belief happened around 4000 years ago, and it was this massive flooding that caused and formed many of the fossil layers around the Earth. And so because we can assume that most of the dinos died during this flooding, then we can say that their fossils were formed around 4000 years ago, not the millions of years that is commonly believed.

But what the hey, scientists (and therefore most of the general public) will say differently.

Memorandum! wrote:
> Well, dinosaurs obviously aren't in the Bible seeing as they had been
> extinct for a few million years before the time in which it was
> written.

As a concept, that doesn't work, because people are still writing books about things that happened hundreds of years ago.

Ant wrote:
> There's a whole web page there that backs it up,

Wow! A web page! I can make a webpage too, thanks, it doesn't mean that I'm now infallible.

Ant wrote:
> I wouldn't even care if dinosaurs weren't even in the Bible. It still
> wouldn't change my beliefs, and I'm sure it wouldn't change yours even
> if it was proved that they were.

Well, dinosaurs obviously aren't in the Bible seeing as they had been extinct for a few million years before the time in which it was written.

I don't understand why anyone would even bother trying to argue that they are in it.

There's a whole web page there that backs it up, but like I've said, many of my beliefs don't have 'facts' behind them.

And no, you can't prove me wrong.

*slaps forehead*

"I don't care about the things you said I believe what I believe and you can't prove me wrong blahblahblah!"
"yer we can"
"wah I believe what I believe!"

1) Those beetles don't "breathe fire" they "excrete hot liquid"
2) Dinosaurs are a bit different from a beetle.

No, you're right about it doesn't change much about whoever is right, but at least have some backing for your beliefs instead of just "Hmmm something is worded slightly differently to how I might have worded it, so maybe it means something totally different!"

Anyway, so what?

I wouldn't even care if dinosaurs weren't even in the Bible. It still wouldn't change my beliefs, and I'm sure it wouldn't change yours even if it was proved that they were.

In terms of fire-breathing animals, you evidently didn't read the article properly, so here's a much shortened version.

"It is hard to read Job 41:18-21 without realizing that Leviathan breathes fire. There is one animal that can spew fire in today’s world. It is called a bombardier beetle. This beetle has a nozzle in its hind end that acts like a little flame thrower. It sprays a high-temperature jet of gas for protection. Now, if a Central American beetle has a built-in flame thrower, so could Leviathan."
"Many fossil dinosaur skulls contain unexplained, empty passages. Scientists have not been able to guess the reason for these passages. Would it make sense that some dinosaurs used these passages as “gas tanks” for the combustible mixture used to “breathe fire?”"

Okay, so it's only a theory. But what isn't?

Also, if you believe what I believe, then dinosaurs were created a day before us, but were soon extinct after the giant flood (Noah's Ark, etc.)

J Nash wrote:
> Think about it. Don't you think that if dinosaurs were around in
> those days, that they'd have been mentioned a lot more? Instead of
> just once or twice in Job?

Didnt dinosaurs precede 'man' buy a few (hundred) millenia??

Ant wrote:
> Yeah, I've seen loads of hippos with tales like a "tapered tree
> trunk,"

Yer..."tapered" just means it gets smaller at one end than it does at the other. So actually, you have seen lots of hippos with tales like a "tapered tree trunk" becuase that's what shape they are.

> and of course, all crocodiles breathe fire don't they!?

Since when did anything breathe fire? Not even dinosaurs were thought to have breathed fire.

Think about it. Don't you think that if dinosaurs were around in those days, that they'd have been mentioned a lot more? Instead of just once or twice in Job?

Like "And the camp of Israel came accross some dinosaurs which proceeded to chase them" or something.

Come on.

Edit: + Hippos and Crocodiles actually did exist in the Middle East at that time, and dinosaurs apparently didn't :' {