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Wed 29/06/05 at 15:43
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For some people it's straight forward, for some they're not bothered and those who can't decide (Agnostics), because I find that each of the topic need more info :

Science
1.The Big Bang Theory - a logical idea, but where does the all the matter in the univrse come from in the first place? Which is compressed in very small space and then exploded.

2.How did the first creatures came into existence out of a stable environment?

3.How did the Big Bang created resources on earth?
e.g metal ores, soil, etc


Religion
1.How did God appear in existence and then create life; perhaps something else created God?

2."God love and care" for people, yet if bad things happen to good people why doesn't God do something about it.

3.How does religion explains the end of life when the sun turns into a red giant and explodes creating a black hole and sucking anything near it?

Which leads me to conclude on my theory that:
God created Earth and all life, then let the people to decide whether they believe in God or not.
Assuming God is in existence, God thought about what life materials life would need and created them within Earth?
The end of life when the sun enlarges and the explodes, perhaps too many people sinned? God did not intend for life to carry on?

Any ideas?
Thu 30/06/05 at 20:17
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God is a big naked man standing on the edge of the universe. One day He experimented tugging His bulbous appendage and - whoops-a-daisy: the Universe was er, released. The Universe is in fact the Almighty's expanding ejaculate: a gargantuan cumshot containing all cosmic life.

I'm right, aren't I.
Thu 30/06/05 at 19:33
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FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> Hurrah, end of debate.

Ah yes, I did say that after all.
Go team.

Although ... (why am I doing this? I just can't help myself) ... I must say that space wasn't created with the Big Bang (if you like that theory) - matter was supposedly created, not space.

So before it ... it's perfectly feasible for there to be just space, not some mystery substance into which the universe is supposedly expanding. There was nothingness before - and nothingness, void of substance, is space.

Maybe I'm missing something really obvious ... but isn't that just the obvious answer?

And also, if one big bang happened, why couldn't another one have happened elsewhere in the pre-explosion space or whatever this amazing thing is we're expanding into?

Two things I've just always thought really obvious, but there we go.
Thu 30/06/05 at 18:35
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Haha, Ant for teh win.
Thu 30/06/05 at 18:35
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Nor does that supposed penis between your legs.
Thu 30/06/05 at 18:25
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Sorry to break this to you Ant, but god doesn't exist sry cheers np!
Thu 30/06/05 at 18:24
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"mate? where did all the dinos go?"
"dunno"
"oh right"
Thu 30/06/05 at 18:22
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Memorandum! wrote:
> If dinosaurs were around at the time I'd expect something more along
> the lines of "a brachiosaurus stepped on my hut. Again.
> However! When I woke up this morning and looked into the distance,
> not a single long-necked beast was to be seen! God realised the
> terror they brought, and rid us of them. Cheers mate."

Well maybe that's exactly what he did. {:)
Thu 30/06/05 at 18:20
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Ant wrote:
> Well basically, the world after Noah's Ark was a very different place,
> which is why humans only live to around 100 now when they used to live
> to 300/400 etc.

Well, in that case it presumably became like it is now, and the current environment could still support a dinosaur so...

> And so through much less food

the carnivores could have ate people/other animals. Why are there no stories of people being eaten by dinosaurs in the Bible? I reckon that'd make it a bit more exciting.

, more competition, the increasing
> ability of men to kill animals,

What did they do? Point a stick at the giant fire-breathing dinosaurs and say "lie down! leave me alone!"?
Also, surely a fight between a person and a dinosaur would have been remembered or noted by someone, at least once? Or 'my nan went off to fight a dinosaur but never came back - it probably ate her'.

> other planetary changes and
> catastrophes etc. many species of animal died out, including the
> dinosaur.

Yet these didn't affect humans at all!

> General, I understand, but it's all I know really. But the argument
> is that the world was such a different place, that the dinosaurs just
> slowly but surely couldn't cope and died out. Animals still become
> extinct nowadays, so perhaps that's what happened to the dinosaurs.

That's true, but given the nature of dinosaurs, I think their existence would have created enough problems for them to be remembered in more than a tiny passing reference to what may possibly be something slightly resembling a dinosaur, and their extinction would probably have been seen as a good thing by the people at the time, so would also have been remembered?

If dinosaurs were around at the time I'd expect something more along the lines of "a brachiosaurus stepped on my hut. Again. However! When I woke up this morning and looked into the distance, not a single long-necked beast was to be seen! God realised the terror they brought, and rid us of them. Cheers mate."
Thu 30/06/05 at 18:16
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This is a bit woe, let's just end the thread with the generic "you believe what you want to, and I will with what I want to" post.
Thu 30/06/05 at 18:09
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J Nash wrote:
> I've read this several times and I still can't understand what you're
> saying.

I don't think it makes sense. I've just been injected with many things.

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