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Yes, they're at it again. The Daily Mail have taken their crusade against all things they don't understand by condemning the decision to put Japanese Manga in schools.
The books are vetted by the School's councils, but the Mail once again shows their ignorance of everything by not undertanding the difference between comic books and Japanese Manga.
Only a fool would suggest that reading an adaption of Spirited Away (to give a well known example) would lead to 'harder' material which is often read by adults in Japan. It would be like suggesting children shouldn't read books, in case it gets them involved in horror or porn based reading material, or not watching Bambi on video, because it will eventually lead the kids to something by Ron Jeremy.
Daily Mail, well done, you've done it again...
The books are vetted by the School's councils, but the Mail once again shows their ignorance of everything by not undertanding the difference between comic books and Japanese Manga.
Only a fool would suggest that reading an adaption of Spirited Away (to give a well known example) would lead to 'harder' material which is often read by adults in Japan. It would be like suggesting children shouldn't read books, in case it gets them involved in horror or porn based reading material, or not watching Bambi on video, because it will eventually lead the kids to something by Ron Jeremy.
Daily Mail, well done, you've done it again...
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Bejam wrote:
> it's like thinking that every film
> to roll out of the Hollywood muuuuh machine is filled with explict
> sex and gore, which isn't the case as we all know.
Don’t be so sure. What about Disney’s latest offering? It’s about a baby dear that loses it’s mother and so grows up without a female role model. Soon after the death the youngster turns to drugs and prostitution to support herself. Coming soon, “Bangbi”
> it's like thinking that every film
> to roll out of the Hollywood muuuuh machine is filled with explict
> sex and gore, which isn't the case as we all know.
Don’t be so sure. What about Disney’s latest offering? It’s about a baby dear that loses it’s mother and so grows up without a female role model. Soon after the death the youngster turns to drugs and prostitution to support herself. Coming soon, “Bangbi”
Daily Mail researching into a subject and actually getting facts before going off on one of their right-on rants? Will never happen. Let them live in the ignorance they're obviously very happy with it.
Ha. I love these kinds of things, where "journalists" get completely out of their depth talking about things they obviously have no clue about, and that seems to happen quite a bit with anime, Manga and also video games as we well know. All Manga is evil!!!123. Ha.
It doesn't take a genuis to do a small bit of research into the world of Manga, and then to discover that there are plenty of family-friendly titles to be the Ying to the violent sordid titles' Yang. But, it seems the ever reliable Mail can conduct such journalism by ignoring the facts and fanning the flames of hatred and moral outrage by implying that kids are going to be exposed to this sick filth.
The main thing about people's dislike or even mistrust of anime and Manga all comes about mainly from cultural misunderstandings really, that and people's fear of the unknown. Anime and Magna are Japanese, an alien culture to those of us outside it; their world looks interesting to the outside world, with people fascinated with their culture of high-tech living mixed with ancient traditions, moral codes, strict work ethic etc etc, but anime and manga convey even weirder cultural ideologies; schoolgirls, panties, rape, and many other strange fetishes and perversions are part and parcel of adult anime and manga, things that make something like Viz magazine look tame and family friendly, and to quote Winston out of the Ghostbusters, "S£*t that'll turn you white". But to think that every Manga comic or anime film/show is vile and filled with evil material is just wrong, it's like thinking that every film to roll out of the Hollywood muuuuh machine is filled with explict sex and gore, which isn't the case as we all know.
There are plenty of good wholesome Manga comics to read and there are some sick ones. I'm pretty sure that anything allowed into schools are the harmless ones, but will letting them read some innocent Manga lead to to seek out more adult orientated Manga? No. But, if some pupils do decide to read some more adult Manga, then it's their own choice, nobody will be forcing them, and it certainly won't be the fault of the Manga industry.
It doesn't take a genuis to do a small bit of research into the world of Manga, and then to discover that there are plenty of family-friendly titles to be the Ying to the violent sordid titles' Yang. But, it seems the ever reliable Mail can conduct such journalism by ignoring the facts and fanning the flames of hatred and moral outrage by implying that kids are going to be exposed to this sick filth.
The main thing about people's dislike or even mistrust of anime and Manga all comes about mainly from cultural misunderstandings really, that and people's fear of the unknown. Anime and Magna are Japanese, an alien culture to those of us outside it; their world looks interesting to the outside world, with people fascinated with their culture of high-tech living mixed with ancient traditions, moral codes, strict work ethic etc etc, but anime and manga convey even weirder cultural ideologies; schoolgirls, panties, rape, and many other strange fetishes and perversions are part and parcel of adult anime and manga, things that make something like Viz magazine look tame and family friendly, and to quote Winston out of the Ghostbusters, "S£*t that'll turn you white". But to think that every Manga comic or anime film/show is vile and filled with evil material is just wrong, it's like thinking that every film to roll out of the Hollywood muuuuh machine is filled with explict sex and gore, which isn't the case as we all know.
There are plenty of good wholesome Manga comics to read and there are some sick ones. I'm pretty sure that anything allowed into schools are the harmless ones, but will letting them read some innocent Manga lead to to seek out more adult orientated Manga? No. But, if some pupils do decide to read some more adult Manga, then it's their own choice, nobody will be forcing them, and it certainly won't be the fault of the Manga industry.
Do they forget that there british and american movies that do this and that reading american or british comics could lead them into darker material they seem to forget there is terminator jeepers creepers halloween and gore fest movies such as chain saw massacer manga and anime is just no diffrent from all this just more things are possible with anime and manga.
Bigots the lot of them.
its not these things that cause these problems the problem is already there the person that is sick enough to do such thing only searches for them doesnt lead to it.
Bigots the lot of them.
its not these things that cause these problems the problem is already there the person that is sick enough to do such thing only searches for them doesnt lead to it.
The incident they are referring to (Gang rape) this guy on the forum said this;
"On 19-06-2003, Shinichiro Wada a 28-year-old sophomore student of renowned Waseda University, was arrested for raping and other charges, along with four of his underlings, all full-time students of famous universities. Their fraternity-like club "SuperFree" held several large rave parties with hundreds (sometimes even thousands) participants every year. They would then focus on good-looking but naive freshman girls (usually from rural prefectures and first time in Tokyo) for a second party with <100 members, then feed the girls with self-prepared liquor mixture with >90% alcohol (note: no illegal drugs were used). Surely no one could stay conscious with that drink, and the girl would be sexually assulted.
These guys are rich (6000 Yen (~US$60) for party admission fee) party animals, and judging from their looks I'd say they were the anti-otaku type: people who would never read manga on a regular basis and would laugh at otaku's inability to attract girls (Wada claimed to have raped over 500 girls). Therefore, it is almost impossible for manga had attributed to their criminal actions."
"On 19-06-2003, Shinichiro Wada a 28-year-old sophomore student of renowned Waseda University, was arrested for raping and other charges, along with four of his underlings, all full-time students of famous universities. Their fraternity-like club "SuperFree" held several large rave parties with hundreds (sometimes even thousands) participants every year. They would then focus on good-looking but naive freshman girls (usually from rural prefectures and first time in Tokyo) for a second party with <100 members, then feed the girls with self-prepared liquor mixture with >90% alcohol (note: no illegal drugs were used). Surely no one could stay conscious with that drink, and the girl would be sexually assulted.
These guys are rich (6000 Yen (~US$60) for party admission fee) party animals, and judging from their looks I'd say they were the anti-otaku type: people who would never read manga on a regular basis and would laugh at otaku's inability to attract girls (Wada claimed to have raped over 500 girls). Therefore, it is almost impossible for manga had attributed to their criminal actions."
That's true :) a pity they didn't mention yaoi, girls reading manga that contain graphic gay sex.
M@rk wrote:
> Yeah I posted about this when I read the articlethis morning onto
> Anime News Network forum. Here I'll copy and apste it. It's sad that
> every time anime is talked about in the UK media they always focus on
> this kind of thing despite it representing a tiny fraction. Leading
> to darker material? I've been reading manga for 10 years now, I've
> not turned to the dark side yet.
>
> Child murder, incest and rape... is this really how our schools
> should be encouraging boys to read? by Glen Owen
>
Tsk. Girls read it too.
> Yeah I posted about this when I read the articlethis morning onto
> Anime News Network forum. Here I'll copy and apste it. It's sad that
> every time anime is talked about in the UK media they always focus on
> this kind of thing despite it representing a tiny fraction. Leading
> to darker material? I've been reading manga for 10 years now, I've
> not turned to the dark side yet.
>
> Child murder, incest and rape... is this really how our schools
> should be encouraging boys to read? by Glen Owen
>
Tsk. Girls read it too.
Yeah I posted about this when I read the articlethis morning onto Anime News Network forum. Here I'll copy and apste it. It's sad that every time anime is talked about in the UK media they always focus on this kind of thing despite it representing a tiny fraction. Leading to darker material? I've been reading manga for 10 years now, I've not turned to the dark side yet.
Child murder, incest and rape... is this really how our schools should be encouraging boys to read? by Glen Owen
GRAPHIC Japanese comic books infamous for the violent and pornographic content of their adult versions, are being sent to schools by the Government-funded agency.
The Manga Cartoons are vividly realistic 'good versus evil' fantasy strips read by all age groups in Japan. In their adult forms, they show the rape, increst and murder of schoolgirls, and depict Lolita-like figures in lewd poses.
Now the Reading Agency, a charity funded by arts, library and Government bodies to promote literacy, has drawn up a list of 150 Manga titles to send to all libraries and schools.
The agency says the books have been vetted to make sure that they are suitable for 13-16 year olds but critics dear that once booked on the comics, teenagers will seek out the more violent and pornographic titles.
The prevalence of Manga comic books in Japan has been blamed by some lobby groups for a rise in sexual violence against women, including a gang-rape by four students at the country's top university last year.
Even children's comics, such as Shonen Jump, which has an English language edition, include characters like Weirdo Mask, a schoolboy who acquires special powers when he puts women's underwear on his face.
Nick Seaton, of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "I really don't think they should invite teenagers to read a series like this. It seems inevitable they will be led into the darker materials".
But the Reading Agency's Ruth Harrison said: "Mangas have the reputation of being about sex and violence but I don't think that's justified. There is a huge range of storylines, covering relationships, football, fantasy horror and sci-fi.
"A lot of the stories are quite sophiisticated, with complicated storylines and development of characters, It's more subtle than just a hero going out to battle evil. The main thing is to get teenagers interested in reading"
Child murder, incest and rape... is this really how our schools should be encouraging boys to read? by Glen Owen
GRAPHIC Japanese comic books infamous for the violent and pornographic content of their adult versions, are being sent to schools by the Government-funded agency.
The Manga Cartoons are vividly realistic 'good versus evil' fantasy strips read by all age groups in Japan. In their adult forms, they show the rape, increst and murder of schoolgirls, and depict Lolita-like figures in lewd poses.
Now the Reading Agency, a charity funded by arts, library and Government bodies to promote literacy, has drawn up a list of 150 Manga titles to send to all libraries and schools.
The agency says the books have been vetted to make sure that they are suitable for 13-16 year olds but critics dear that once booked on the comics, teenagers will seek out the more violent and pornographic titles.
The prevalence of Manga comic books in Japan has been blamed by some lobby groups for a rise in sexual violence against women, including a gang-rape by four students at the country's top university last year.
Even children's comics, such as Shonen Jump, which has an English language edition, include characters like Weirdo Mask, a schoolboy who acquires special powers when he puts women's underwear on his face.
Nick Seaton, of the Campaign for Real Education, said: "I really don't think they should invite teenagers to read a series like this. It seems inevitable they will be led into the darker materials".
But the Reading Agency's Ruth Harrison said: "Mangas have the reputation of being about sex and violence but I don't think that's justified. There is a huge range of storylines, covering relationships, football, fantasy horror and sci-fi.
"A lot of the stories are quite sophiisticated, with complicated storylines and development of characters, It's more subtle than just a hero going out to battle evil. The main thing is to get teenagers interested in reading"
What are they trying to do?
They'll only lose readers.
That, I hope!!!! ;VD
They'll only lose readers.
That, I hope!!!! ;VD
umm
Can we lead a crusade against the Daily Mail?
Can we lead a crusade against the Daily Mail?
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