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Banjo Pilot = sh*t
It's Mr Pants = mmmm mediocracy
It's been, what, four years since they released a game worth playing?
It's Mr Pants = mmmm mediocracy
It's been, what, four years since they released a game worth playing?
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Hedfix wrote:
> Goldeneye had a high level of relaism and PD was rated mature because
> of it's realistic deaths (Turok only got a 15 because it was mainly
> against Dinosaurs/creatures and the gore was OTT).
Uh uh! That's why they've got content unsuitable for kids.
Goldeneye is so pick up and play that a 3 year old can give it a go.
10 year olds can give it a good go and beat it on Agent atleast, but the harder settings give a suitable challenge and depth to more mature gamers.
So it's halfway between.
> Metroid Prime doesn't appear to contain a high level of realism.
Realism smealism.
What's that got to do with adultness?!?
Basically, a kid would need exceptional patience to get anything out of Metroid. It takes and adult to appreciate the goodness in such a game.
Incidently, the most notorious games are the ones that capture both scenes. The afore mentioned Goldeneye was a huge hit among all gamers alike. Hardcore Goldeneye fans loved Perfect Dark, but most casual gamers found PD relatively inaccessable.
> Goldeneye had a high level of relaism and PD was rated mature because
> of it's realistic deaths (Turok only got a 15 because it was mainly
> against Dinosaurs/creatures and the gore was OTT).
Uh uh! That's why they've got content unsuitable for kids.
Goldeneye is so pick up and play that a 3 year old can give it a go.
10 year olds can give it a good go and beat it on Agent atleast, but the harder settings give a suitable challenge and depth to more mature gamers.
So it's halfway between.
> Metroid Prime doesn't appear to contain a high level of realism.
Realism smealism.
What's that got to do with adultness?!?
Basically, a kid would need exceptional patience to get anything out of Metroid. It takes and adult to appreciate the goodness in such a game.
Incidently, the most notorious games are the ones that capture both scenes. The afore mentioned Goldeneye was a huge hit among all gamers alike. Hardcore Goldeneye fans loved Perfect Dark, but most casual gamers found PD relatively inaccessable.
How can you not take Metroid Prime as an adult title?
Metroid Prime: Echoes has you stalking an empty series of tunnels with old members of a strike force hung up from the ceiling.
The game is, at times, terrifying! You are given this total feeling of loneliness, you have no friends, no allies. Everyone is dead. You can read their desperate struggle for survival via scanning dead troops.
The game is complex, has a large level of depth and in no way shape of form can be defined as childrens title.
It is Nintendo's premier adult franchise and always will be.
Metroid Prime: Echoes has you stalking an empty series of tunnels with old members of a strike force hung up from the ceiling.
The game is, at times, terrifying! You are given this total feeling of loneliness, you have no friends, no allies. Everyone is dead. You can read their desperate struggle for survival via scanning dead troops.
The game is complex, has a large level of depth and in no way shape of form can be defined as childrens title.
It is Nintendo's premier adult franchise and always will be.
Strafio wrote:
>
> That's why Perfect Dark was an adult title and I'd say Metroid Prime
> is but I'd say Goldeneye and Timesplitters are somewhere in
> between...
Goldeneye had a high level of relaism and PD was rated mature because of it's realistic deaths (Turok only got a 15 because it was mainly against Dinosaurs/creatures and the gore was OTT).
Metroid Prime doesn't appear to contain a high level of realism.
Ubi-soft are pushing realism at the moment with PoP2 going after a more adult feel and Pandora Tomorrow making many americans upset with the likelyhood of an 'M' rating. After Dumbing down GR2 and removing the blood this is a welcome change.
>
> That's why Perfect Dark was an adult title and I'd say Metroid Prime
> is but I'd say Goldeneye and Timesplitters are somewhere in
> between...
Goldeneye had a high level of relaism and PD was rated mature because of it's realistic deaths (Turok only got a 15 because it was mainly against Dinosaurs/creatures and the gore was OTT).
Metroid Prime doesn't appear to contain a high level of realism.
Ubi-soft are pushing realism at the moment with PoP2 going after a more adult feel and Pandora Tomorrow making many americans upset with the likelyhood of an 'M' rating. After Dumbing down GR2 and removing the blood this is a welcome change.
Serious Sam, Red Faction and MoH all appeal to kids with not a speck of gore in them (might be wrong about RF haven't played it in a while) all involve shooting people.
Mabye it's just me but as a kid I was playing Wolfenstein and Doom, the thought of a farming simulation wouldn't have interested me at all.
Mabye it's just me but as a kid I was playing Wolfenstein and Doom, the thought of a farming simulation wouldn't have interested me at all.
Dunno about you but I think shooting people with guns is quite "adult". Or at least it should be. You could hardly say that Metroid appealed to kids, could you? It clearly doesn't.
I'd consider Gran Tourismo an "Adult" title, just because it has a "mature" amount of depth to it, and anyone who isn't old enough to be obsessed with realistic car parts will end up using it to cure insomnia.
That's why Perfect Dark was an adult title and I'd say Metroid Prime is but I'd say Goldeneye and Timesplitters are somewhere in between...
That's why Perfect Dark was an adult title and I'd say Metroid Prime is but I'd say Goldeneye and Timesplitters are somewhere in between...
We all know the level of gameplay isn't in question it's a question of presentation, what your average gamer (if there is such a thing) is now after.
I'd say a level of realism, inclusion of gore and the sort of things that gets a game a 16+ rating. This combined with the title actually being next-gen and good.
Resi 4 is a prime example.
I'd say a level of realism, inclusion of gore and the sort of things that gets a game a 16+ rating. This combined with the title actually being next-gen and good.
Resi 4 is a prime example.
I dunno why you don't see MP as an adult title. It's hardly cartoony, easy, simple or childish. What exactly constitutes an "adult" title, then?
So as far as adult titles go there's currently an MGS rehash and ED? Bringing in DHV seems very desperate as it's hardly a cutting edge title on any front.
I fail to see the MP's as Adult titles.
Temporary exclusivity is a weak point, re-releasing thr Resident Evils was a desperate attempt to grasp the adult market. It's an apalling mess.
Still at least they have franchises to fall back on. A few more adult franchises wouldn't hurt.
Still Rare only managed to fling out 3 adult titles but the success of those really hasn't made much of an impact on Nintendo, and this time there's no enthusiastic Acclaim or THQ to bail them out.
I fail to see the MP's as Adult titles.
Temporary exclusivity is a weak point, re-releasing thr Resident Evils was a desperate attempt to grasp the adult market. It's an apalling mess.
Still at least they have franchises to fall back on. A few more adult franchises wouldn't hurt.
Still Rare only managed to fling out 3 adult titles but the success of those really hasn't made much of an impact on Nintendo, and this time there's no enthusiastic Acclaim or THQ to bail them out.
Hedfix wrote:
> Dringo wrote:
> You mean Nintendo's current adult software line up?
>
> Perhaps Eternal Darkness, Metroid Prime...
>
> These don't look like Rare titles to me.
>
> and 2 titles? Hardly churning them out as much as Rare did are
> they? So 2 adult titles going up to 4 in the future? Is it any wonder
> many choose more balanced consoles?
Well for starters there is Namco developing the Starfox and Donkey Kong games in place of RARE. Also Nintendo's new division was set up on the back of RARE's departure.
So we have Konga 1,2,3, Jungle Beat, Starfox Armada.
Adult software we have Silicon Knights' Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
Retro Studio's: Metroid prime 1 and 2.
Capcom's Resident Evil 0, Product Number 03, Capcom were also given the Mickey Mouse license previously held by RARE. Also the temporary exclusivity of Viewtiful Joe and Resident Evil 4.
N-Space's Geist is coming soon
as is Kuju's Advance Wars.
Die Hard Vendetta was a temporary exclusive title.
NSTC was expanded a little, they developed 1080.
As I say, it has taken Nintendo ages to develop a decent level of exclusive adult software. Retro are better than RARE at the moment. I just wish they were bigger.
Retro have also released more games on the Gamecube than RARE have on the X-box so far.
> Dringo wrote:
> You mean Nintendo's current adult software line up?
>
> Perhaps Eternal Darkness, Metroid Prime...
>
> These don't look like Rare titles to me.
>
> and 2 titles? Hardly churning them out as much as Rare did are
> they? So 2 adult titles going up to 4 in the future? Is it any wonder
> many choose more balanced consoles?
Well for starters there is Namco developing the Starfox and Donkey Kong games in place of RARE. Also Nintendo's new division was set up on the back of RARE's departure.
So we have Konga 1,2,3, Jungle Beat, Starfox Armada.
Adult software we have Silicon Knights' Eternal Darkness and Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
Retro Studio's: Metroid prime 1 and 2.
Capcom's Resident Evil 0, Product Number 03, Capcom were also given the Mickey Mouse license previously held by RARE. Also the temporary exclusivity of Viewtiful Joe and Resident Evil 4.
N-Space's Geist is coming soon
as is Kuju's Advance Wars.
Die Hard Vendetta was a temporary exclusive title.
NSTC was expanded a little, they developed 1080.
As I say, it has taken Nintendo ages to develop a decent level of exclusive adult software. Retro are better than RARE at the moment. I just wish they were bigger.
Retro have also released more games on the Gamecube than RARE have on the X-box so far.
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