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well, not the ULTIMATE PC, but I would like to know everything I would need to build one of the best PC's going, the CPU, Graphics Card, RAM, everything, so.... what would I need.
P.S. money is not a problem.
P.S. money is not a problem.
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Stevie boy wrote:
> Your average PSU has 5 molex connectors, and that simply wouln't be
> enough. Look at the image
> (http://stevesmiscellany.8bit.co.uk/computercomponents.jpg).
A decent PSU will have 8 or more molex connectors. And you wouldn't use anything less than a decent PSU unless you like the smell of cooked circuitry and the sound of fan bearings.
> Thats your opinion...
I'd take your computer over a £1K machine, but not by much - the returns for your investment once you start spending more than a certain amount on a computer start dropping off drastically. It amuses/dismays me that so many people on this forum shell out so much for high end components, that will have halved in value in six months and be worthless in two years. Most of them are kiddies wowed by ritzy statistics and neon lights. On another forum I frequent there is a saying: "a fool and his parents money are easily parted".
> Your average PSU has 5 molex connectors, and that simply wouln't be
> enough. Look at the image
> (http://stevesmiscellany.8bit.co.uk/computercomponents.jpg).
A decent PSU will have 8 or more molex connectors. And you wouldn't use anything less than a decent PSU unless you like the smell of cooked circuitry and the sound of fan bearings.
> Thats your opinion...
I'd take your computer over a £1K machine, but not by much - the returns for your investment once you start spending more than a certain amount on a computer start dropping off drastically. It amuses/dismays me that so many people on this forum shell out so much for high end components, that will have halved in value in six months and be worthless in two years. Most of them are kiddies wowed by ritzy statistics and neon lights. On another forum I frequent there is a saying: "a fool and his parents money are easily parted".
Turbonutter wrote:
> Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1 THX - Retail (SC-017-CL)
> £71.40 £71.40
>
>
> Nono, you wany a Terratec 24/96 Fire6 DMX.
Fair enough. I was just going for the best card (without a front i/o panel) with 7.1 sound to match the speakers.
> Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1 THX - Retail (SC-017-CL)
> £71.40 £71.40
>
>
> Nono, you wany a Terratec 24/96 Fire6 DMX.
Fair enough. I was just going for the best card (without a front i/o panel) with 7.1 sound to match the speakers.
Notorious Biggles wrote:
>Why not watercooling?
You need a full tower case for a decent system to fit, and those are even more expensive.
>Case badges? Let's get a Da Vinci to glue onto the side...
They are 70p each for gods sake, just stick em on the back panel of the case...
> As for the hard drives... unless you are a proper power user (in
> which case you wouldn't be asking on here) skip the RAID 0 configured
> Raptors, they are noisy, they are expensive, they are fairly small.
> Also skip the external hard drive. Just get the one 160 GB Maxtor
> drive for £70.
He did say money was no object, so I went for RAIDed raptors
> Skip the 16x DVD drive and just buy the one DVD burner. The burner
> listed is rather good though, I use it.
You shound'nt really use burners as defualt drives, as they tend to be slower even at the same spin speed.
>The power supply is
> expensive, but Globalwins are not a patch on say a Antec, or even a
> Fortron; both of which are considerably cheaper. Drop the hard drive
> cooling systems, as they are unnecessary. Also UV cathodes and fans
> are totally pointless - not because I'm against case mods, I'm not,
> but simply because you won't see your rainbow of colours in a case
> with no side window.
You can't buy the windows at overclockers, but I would get one elsewere, and the front fans would glow out the mesh anyway, creating a nice effect.
> I also think the case is rather pricey. "Y" power splitters
> won't be needed at all either, let alone 6 of them.
Your average PSU has 5 molex connectors, and that simply wouln't be enough. Look at the image (http://stevesmiscellany.8bit.co.uk/computercomponents.jpg).
> Bottom line is that is an overloaded, bloated system that is power
> hungry, extremely expensive and won't perform any better than a
> system I could build for a grand.
Thats your opinion...
>Why not watercooling?
You need a full tower case for a decent system to fit, and those are even more expensive.
>Case badges? Let's get a Da Vinci to glue onto the side...
They are 70p each for gods sake, just stick em on the back panel of the case...
> As for the hard drives... unless you are a proper power user (in
> which case you wouldn't be asking on here) skip the RAID 0 configured
> Raptors, they are noisy, they are expensive, they are fairly small.
> Also skip the external hard drive. Just get the one 160 GB Maxtor
> drive for £70.
He did say money was no object, so I went for RAIDed raptors
> Skip the 16x DVD drive and just buy the one DVD burner. The burner
> listed is rather good though, I use it.
You shound'nt really use burners as defualt drives, as they tend to be slower even at the same spin speed.
>The power supply is
> expensive, but Globalwins are not a patch on say a Antec, or even a
> Fortron; both of which are considerably cheaper. Drop the hard drive
> cooling systems, as they are unnecessary. Also UV cathodes and fans
> are totally pointless - not because I'm against case mods, I'm not,
> but simply because you won't see your rainbow of colours in a case
> with no side window.
You can't buy the windows at overclockers, but I would get one elsewere, and the front fans would glow out the mesh anyway, creating a nice effect.
> I also think the case is rather pricey. "Y" power splitters
> won't be needed at all either, let alone 6 of them.
Your average PSU has 5 molex connectors, and that simply wouln't be enough. Look at the image (http://stevesmiscellany.8bit.co.uk/computercomponents.jpg).
> Bottom line is that is an overloaded, bloated system that is power
> hungry, extremely expensive and won't perform any better than a
> system I could build for a grand.
Thats your opinion...
Notorious Biggles wrote:
> Stevie's machine is £2645.50 excluding delivery and is still
> inferior to many.
>
> Athlon 64 FXs are better, by far, but why bother with them? If money
> is no object lets build an 8 way Opteron, because we all need 17.6
> GHz in the one box don't we? And only one graphics card? If we bung
> in several PCI ones we could have more monitors?
>
> Why not watercooling?
>
> Case badges? Let's get a Da Vinci to glue onto the side...
>
> Meanwhile, back on planet earth, I would say either wait until June
> and buy an Athlon 64 3200+ or better on a socket 939 motherboard.
*chuckles*
*chuckles more*
Haha, I know who to note next votable!
> Stevie's machine is £2645.50 excluding delivery and is still
> inferior to many.
>
> Athlon 64 FXs are better, by far, but why bother with them? If money
> is no object lets build an 8 way Opteron, because we all need 17.6
> GHz in the one box don't we? And only one graphics card? If we bung
> in several PCI ones we could have more monitors?
>
> Why not watercooling?
>
> Case badges? Let's get a Da Vinci to glue onto the side...
>
> Meanwhile, back on planet earth, I would say either wait until June
> and buy an Athlon 64 3200+ or better on a socket 939 motherboard.
*chuckles*
*chuckles more*
Haha, I know who to note next votable!
Stevie's machine is £2645.50 excluding delivery and is still inferior to many.
Athlon 64 FXs are better, by far, but why bother with them? If money is no object lets build an 8 way Opteron, because we all need 17.6 GHz in the one box don't we? And only one graphics card? If we bung in several PCI ones we could have more monitors?
Why not watercooling?
Case badges? Let's get a Da Vinci to glue onto the side...
Meanwhile, back on planet earth, I would say either wait until June and buy an Athlon 64 3200+ or better on a socket 939 motherboard.
If you need the system now, then by all means get an Athlon 64 3200+ anyway on the current socket 754, it is still the best readily available platform. I also would avoid that RAM, far too expensive considering there is better faster stuff out there.
As for the hard drives... unless you are a proper power user (in which case you wouldn't be asking on here) skip the RAID 0 configured Raptors, they are noisy, they are expensive, they are fairly small. Also skip the external hard drive. Just get the one 160 GB Maxtor drive for £70.
Skip the 16x DVD drive and just buy the one DVD burner. The burner listed is rather good though, I use it. The power supply is expensive, but Globalwins are not a patch on say a Antec, or even a Fortron; both of which are considerably cheaper. Drop the hard drive cooling systems, as they are unnecessary. Also UV cathodes and fans are totally pointless - not because I'm against case mods, I'm not, but simply because you won't see your rainbow of colours in a case with no side window.
I also think the case is rather pricey. "Y" power splitters won't be needed at all either, let alone 6 of them.
Bottom line is that is an overloaded, bloated system that is power hungry, extremely expensive and won't perform any better than a system I could build for a grand.
Now if you would care to post an actual budget we could give you a decent specification. If you keep some things from your current PC you will save even more. There is no point in spending vast amounts of money just for the sake of it.
Athlon 64 FXs are better, by far, but why bother with them? If money is no object lets build an 8 way Opteron, because we all need 17.6 GHz in the one box don't we? And only one graphics card? If we bung in several PCI ones we could have more monitors?
Why not watercooling?
Case badges? Let's get a Da Vinci to glue onto the side...
Meanwhile, back on planet earth, I would say either wait until June and buy an Athlon 64 3200+ or better on a socket 939 motherboard.
If you need the system now, then by all means get an Athlon 64 3200+ anyway on the current socket 754, it is still the best readily available platform. I also would avoid that RAM, far too expensive considering there is better faster stuff out there.
As for the hard drives... unless you are a proper power user (in which case you wouldn't be asking on here) skip the RAID 0 configured Raptors, they are noisy, they are expensive, they are fairly small. Also skip the external hard drive. Just get the one 160 GB Maxtor drive for £70.
Skip the 16x DVD drive and just buy the one DVD burner. The burner listed is rather good though, I use it. The power supply is expensive, but Globalwins are not a patch on say a Antec, or even a Fortron; both of which are considerably cheaper. Drop the hard drive cooling systems, as they are unnecessary. Also UV cathodes and fans are totally pointless - not because I'm against case mods, I'm not, but simply because you won't see your rainbow of colours in a case with no side window.
I also think the case is rather pricey. "Y" power splitters won't be needed at all either, let alone 6 of them.
Bottom line is that is an overloaded, bloated system that is power hungry, extremely expensive and won't perform any better than a system I could build for a grand.
Now if you would care to post an actual budget we could give you a decent specification. If you keep some things from your current PC you will save even more. There is no point in spending vast amounts of money just for the sake of it.
Stevie boy wrote:
> Intel Pentium 4 "Northwood" 3.4GHz (800FSB) with HT
I recently benched my 2.4ghz Athlon way above this chip. However, you should really be looking at Athlon 64FX chips.
> Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1 THX - Retail (SC-017-CL)
> £71.40 £71.40
Nono, you wany a Terratec 24/96 Fire6 DMX.
> Intel Pentium 4 "Northwood" 3.4GHz (800FSB) with HT
I recently benched my 2.4ghz Athlon way above this chip. However, you should really be looking at Athlon 64FX chips.
> Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1 THX - Retail (SC-017-CL)
> £71.40 £71.40
Nono, you wany a Terratec 24/96 Fire6 DMX.
Stevie boy wrote:
> Intel Pentium 4 "Northwood" 3.4GHz (800FSB) with HT
> Technology - Retail (CP-049-IN)
> £262.00 £262.00
Wouldnt the P4 3.2GHz EE be better? Considering its nearly £700. He did say money is not a problem.
> Intel Pentium 4 "Northwood" 3.4GHz (800FSB) with HT
> Technology - Retail (CP-049-IN)
> £262.00 £262.00
Wouldnt the P4 3.2GHz EE be better? Considering its nearly £700. He did say money is not a problem.
What's your budget? Can we spend, say, a couple of hundred thousand pounds?
Intel Pentium 4 "Northwood" 3.4GHz (800FSB) with HT Technology - Retail (CP-049-IN)
£262.00 £262.00
DFI LanParty Pro875 "Canterwood" (Socket 478) Motherboard (MB-002-DF)
£97.50 £97.50
2 Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200LL Pro TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-025-CS)
£245.00 £490.00
2 Western Digital Raptor 74GB Serial ATA 10000RPM - OEM (HD-015-WD)
£135.00 £270.00
Maxtor OneTouch™ 160GB External Firewire/USB2.0 Hard Drive - Retail (HD-030-MD)
£119.95 £119.95
MSI D16 16x DVD-ROM (Black) - Retail (CD-010-MS)
£18.95 £18.95
MSI DR8-A2 8x DVD±R/±RW (Black) - Retail (CD-016-MS)
£63.00 £63.00
Globalwin Super Silent 22dBA 520W ATX Power Supply (CA-002-GW)
£105.00 £105.00
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1 THX - Retail (SC-017-CL)
£71.40 £71.40
2 Vantec Vortex Hard Drive Cooling System - Black (SY-001-VA)
£29.95 £59.90
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) (AC-000-AC)
£5.75 £5.75
Hyundai ImageQuest L70S 17" TFT Monitor (MO-013-HY)
£274.40 £274.40
Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop v2.0 - OEM (KB-018-MS)
£29.95 £29.95
Microsoft Windows XP Professional - OEM (OS-002-MS)
£83.95 £83.95
Intel Pentium 4 Case Badge (CA-001-IN)
£0.70 £0.70
OcUK Case Badges (CA-002-OC)
£0.70 £0.70
ThermalRight SP-94 (Socket 478) Cooler (HS-011-TR)
£32.00 £32.00
5 Akasa 80mm UV Fan - DAYGLO Orange (FG-018-AK)
£2.90 £14.50
CoolerMaster Praetorian PAC-T01-EK - Black (No PSU) (CA-051-CM)
£82.00 £82.00
2 Akasa AK-178-UV 12" Cold Cathode - Ultra-Violet (CM-011-GE)
£12.50 £25.00
Connect3D ATI Radeon X800 XT 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/DVI - Retail (GX-020-CO)
£307.50 £307.50
Creative GigaWorks 7.1 S750 THX® - Retail (SP-027-CL)
£219.95 £219.95
6 Akasa "Y" Power Splitter - DAYGLO Orange (CB-005-AK)
£1.90 £11.40
All from overclockers.co.uk
All prices exclude vat
The first price is for one of the item, second is the multiple total.
Image: http://stevesmiscellany.8bit.co.uk/computercomponents.jpg
Orange represents power cables.
Blue represents data cables.
£262.00 £262.00
DFI LanParty Pro875 "Canterwood" (Socket 478) Motherboard (MB-002-DF)
£97.50 £97.50
2 Corsair 1GB DDR XMS3200LL Pro TwinX (2x512MB) CAS2 (MY-025-CS)
£245.00 £490.00
2 Western Digital Raptor 74GB Serial ATA 10000RPM - OEM (HD-015-WD)
£135.00 £270.00
Maxtor OneTouch™ 160GB External Firewire/USB2.0 Hard Drive - Retail (HD-030-MD)
£119.95 £119.95
MSI D16 16x DVD-ROM (Black) - Retail (CD-010-MS)
£18.95 £18.95
MSI DR8-A2 8x DVD±R/±RW (Black) - Retail (CD-016-MS)
£63.00 £63.00
Globalwin Super Silent 22dBA 520W ATX Power Supply (CA-002-GW)
£105.00 £105.00
Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS 7.1 THX - Retail (SC-017-CL)
£71.40 £71.40
2 Vantec Vortex Hard Drive Cooling System - Black (SY-001-VA)
£29.95 £59.90
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound (3.5g) (AC-000-AC)
£5.75 £5.75
Hyundai ImageQuest L70S 17" TFT Monitor (MO-013-HY)
£274.40 £274.40
Microsoft Wireless Optical Desktop v2.0 - OEM (KB-018-MS)
£29.95 £29.95
Microsoft Windows XP Professional - OEM (OS-002-MS)
£83.95 £83.95
Intel Pentium 4 Case Badge (CA-001-IN)
£0.70 £0.70
OcUK Case Badges (CA-002-OC)
£0.70 £0.70
ThermalRight SP-94 (Socket 478) Cooler (HS-011-TR)
£32.00 £32.00
5 Akasa 80mm UV Fan - DAYGLO Orange (FG-018-AK)
£2.90 £14.50
CoolerMaster Praetorian PAC-T01-EK - Black (No PSU) (CA-051-CM)
£82.00 £82.00
2 Akasa AK-178-UV 12" Cold Cathode - Ultra-Violet (CM-011-GE)
£12.50 £25.00
Connect3D ATI Radeon X800 XT 256MB DDR3 TV-Out/DVI - Retail (GX-020-CO)
£307.50 £307.50
Creative GigaWorks 7.1 S750 THX® - Retail (SP-027-CL)
£219.95 £219.95
6 Akasa "Y" Power Splitter - DAYGLO Orange (CB-005-AK)
£1.90 £11.40
All from overclockers.co.uk
All prices exclude vat
The first price is for one of the item, second is the multiple total.
Image: http://stevesmiscellany.8bit.co.uk/computercomponents.jpg
Orange represents power cables.
Blue represents data cables.
well, not the ULTIMATE PC, but I would like to know everything I would need to build one of the best PC's going, the CPU, Graphics Card, RAM, everything, so.... what would I need.
P.S. money is not a problem.
P.S. money is not a problem.
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