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I heard two people talking about this the other night, and was wondering what you guys thought. Is being gay in your DNA, or is it 'acquired' through your life?
So yeh, enlighten me...
So yeh, enlighten me...
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Forest Fan wrote:
> lighter than your average White
Ha.
> lighter than your average White
Ha.
Light wrote:
> I think you're white. However, I think Jews (the semetic race) are (if
> you wanna get technical) brown. Ergo, I do not think you are a jew in
> the racial sense. You are claiming to be a jew in the religious
> sense, are you not? In which case (to drag you back to the original
> point) you have to obey the Old Covenant. Which you don't. You don't
> even obey the New one for that matter (thanks to that tasty and
> bloody steak you eat).
Light, when have I ever eaten blood? Don't I know? I can tell you I have never eaten blood and don't intend to anytime soon.
> Now; let us think for a minute about cowardice . Are you
> going to keep on this particular point and ignore all the others? I'm
> happy to expose your hypocrisy purely on this matter, but I'd prefer
> to comprehensively destroy your little Messiah fantasy on every
> single point I've raised.
Patience, Light. Like I have previously stated we will work through every issue before moving on to the next one. Our first issue is still unresolved about Semitics and them being followers of Christ.
I'll leave you with a question Light, how is it possible for Jews to keep the Old Covenant when both their temples have been destroyed and the Dome (Muslim Mosque) has been built over the site?
> I think you're white. However, I think Jews (the semetic race) are (if
> you wanna get technical) brown. Ergo, I do not think you are a jew in
> the racial sense. You are claiming to be a jew in the religious
> sense, are you not? In which case (to drag you back to the original
> point) you have to obey the Old Covenant. Which you don't. You don't
> even obey the New one for that matter (thanks to that tasty and
> bloody steak you eat).
Light, when have I ever eaten blood? Don't I know? I can tell you I have never eaten blood and don't intend to anytime soon.
> Now; let us think for a minute about cowardice . Are you
> going to keep on this particular point and ignore all the others? I'm
> happy to expose your hypocrisy purely on this matter, but I'd prefer
> to comprehensively destroy your little Messiah fantasy on every
> single point I've raised.
Patience, Light. Like I have previously stated we will work through every issue before moving on to the next one. Our first issue is still unresolved about Semitics and them being followers of Christ.
I'll leave you with a question Light, how is it possible for Jews to keep the Old Covenant when both their temples have been destroyed and the Dome (Muslim Mosque) has been built over the site?
Forest Fan wrote:
> Light: [URL]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Semitic%20[/URL]
>
> Nothing about Semitic being a colour, just a type of people.
Yup; an 'afro-asiatic' people. NOT a caucasian people. Or are you now saying that asians are white, and native africans are white? Thanks for that link; helps further undermine your ludicrous claim to be a white jewish christian.
>
> Semitics also range from extremely light colours - lighter than your
> average White in some places in Eastern Europe to extremely dark in
> some places of the Middle East. Semetics could even be Black - so
> there is absolutely no defined 'Semitic' colour.
And where do you get that definition from? It's not mentioned on the site. That's because it's YOUR definition of semetic, isn't it?
Eastern Europe? Tell me; how would an afro-asian people be native to Europe? I'm looking forward to hearing your lies on this one....
> Light: [URL]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Semitic%20[/URL]
>
> Nothing about Semitic being a colour, just a type of people.
Yup; an 'afro-asiatic' people. NOT a caucasian people. Or are you now saying that asians are white, and native africans are white? Thanks for that link; helps further undermine your ludicrous claim to be a white jewish christian.
>
> Semitics also range from extremely light colours - lighter than your
> average White in some places in Eastern Europe to extremely dark in
> some places of the Middle East. Semetics could even be Black - so
> there is absolutely no defined 'Semitic' colour.
And where do you get that definition from? It's not mentioned on the site. That's because it's YOUR definition of semetic, isn't it?
Eastern Europe? Tell me; how would an afro-asian people be native to Europe? I'm looking forward to hearing your lies on this one....
I think you're white. However, I think Jews (the semetic race) are (if you wanna get technical) brown. Ergo, I do not think you are a jew in the racial sense. You are claiming to be a jew in the religious sense, are you not? In which case (to drag you back to the original point) you have to obey the Old Covenant. Which you don't. You don't even obey the New one for that matter (thanks to that tasty and bloody steak you eat).
Now; let us think for a minute about cowardice . Are you going to keep on this particular point and ignore all the others? I'm happy to expose your hypocrisy purely on this matter, but I'd prefer to comprehensively destroy your little Messiah fantasy on every single point I've raised.
Now; let us think for a minute about cowardice . Are you going to keep on this particular point and ignore all the others? I'm happy to expose your hypocrisy purely on this matter, but I'd prefer to comprehensively destroy your little Messiah fantasy on every single point I've raised.
Light: [URL]http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Semitic%20[/URL]
Nothing about Semitic being a colour, just a type of people.
Semitics also range from extremely light colours - lighter than your average White in some places in Eastern Europe to extremely dark in some places of the Middle East. Semetics could even be Black - so there is absolutely no defined 'Semitic' colour.
Nothing about Semitic being a colour, just a type of people.
Semitics also range from extremely light colours - lighter than your average White in some places in Eastern Europe to extremely dark in some places of the Middle East. Semetics could even be Black - so there is absolutely no defined 'Semitic' colour.
Light wrote:
> so now we're moving the goalposts again? Suddenly, Jews are
> white? Yet you've tried to distinguish yourself as racially Jewish.
> And Jews are not a caucasian race; they're a semetic people of the
> middle east.
Light, let us think for a moment about colours.
The colours used to describe skin colours like Black, White or Brown.
Is Semetic a colour? No. Is White a colour? Yes - by the way I know the arguement about Black and White not being colours, but let us consider them so for this purpose.
I am in colour - White. Light - what colour do you think I am - baring in mind Semetic is not a colour?
> so now we're moving the goalposts again? Suddenly, Jews are
> white? Yet you've tried to distinguish yourself as racially Jewish.
> And Jews are not a caucasian race; they're a semetic people of the
> middle east.
Light, let us think for a moment about colours.
The colours used to describe skin colours like Black, White or Brown.
Is Semetic a colour? No. Is White a colour? Yes - by the way I know the arguement about Black and White not being colours, but let us consider them so for this purpose.
I am in colour - White. Light - what colour do you think I am - baring in mind Semetic is not a colour?
Icaruss wrote:
> Light wrote:
> attempt to convince the posters on a webboard
Wha...?
> >
> Light wrote:
> attempt to convince the posters on a webboard
Wha...?
> >
Forest Fan wrote:
>
> I want to get every issue sorted out before we move on to the next
> one - otherwise we'll have to continually go back to previous ones.
No; you want to concentrate on one issue out of the many I've cornered you on, stick with that until the original post has been bumped off the front page, then ignore all the other questions. Then, if someone asks you to answer the other questions, you'll post "What questions?". If someone refers to the original post, you'll say "Which post?" You know; like you've done since the moment you started posting here.
Your excuses don't wash. You're a coward and a hypocrite who is running away from answering questions. What's more, you're getting increasingly desperate in your attempts to evade them. I estimate that it won't be long until you decide that "I won't answer you any more Light because you don't [insert excuse here, the actuality of which is 'you keep asking me questions that I don't like'].
So; answer all of the points I put to you please. Your misdirection is wasted on me.
>
> Jesus could never stop being Jewish - no-one can.
Then in that case, he would have had to follow the Old Covenant. Which, if that were the case, renders the New Covenant meaningless. Like I say, your ridiculous argument is a theological impossibility. And now that you're faced with being exposed as a total hypocrite in that you don't follow the Law of Moses (as all Jews MUST) yet you keep saying you're Jewish, because Jesus was a Jew and how else could you maintain your fantasy of being the next messiah?
>
> Light - can you stop being White - and I don't mean by changing the
> colour of your skin, I mean by following a different belief?
No I can't. And I couldn't stop being semetic either if I were, but now you're saying that you're not semetic, you're white. So if you're white, your only tie to Judaism is by faith alone rather than by race. Ergo, to maintain your claims of being a jew you have to follow the Old Covenant. And you've already admitted that you don't. Yet you keep saying you're a jew as well as a christian. I've detailed, in easy to follow stages, just why this is simply not possible.
>
> One more thing; if you're Jewish, why did you claim to be white and
> english in this post;
>
> Light - I gave you credit before. Seriously I thought you understood
> what I was. But I'll have to break it down for you.
I do understand what you are; a lying, lonely little hypocrite who wants to believe that he's the next messiah because that's the only way he can get anything appraoching joy in his miserable and fearful existence.
>
> Skin Colour: White
> Background: Jewish
> Nationality: English (born in England as were parents and
> grandparents)
>
> Does that make sense?
Nope. It reads like you're trying to tell me that 2 contradictory lies you've told are both simoultaneously true. I'm afraid that you've entirely failed to address the issues I have with your claims of judaism and Christianity. All you've done is said, over and over again, "I'm a jew and a christian, but I don't have to follow the Law of Moses as all jews have to, and racially I'm a jew...oops, except I'm not but I am because I'm now a white jewish christian". Your lies are spiralling out of control Gump, and you're having to twist reality a little further with each one, aren't you?
>
> Listen Light - most - most not all, but most Jewish people in England
> would be like me - White, Jewish and English.
Ahh, so now we're moving the goalposts again? Suddenly, Jews are white? Yet you've tried to distinguish yourself as racially Jewish. And Jews are not a caucasian race; they're a semetic people of the middle east.
Most Jewish people in England would point at you and laugh until you cried. Let me make this clear;
Jewish and christian? Theologically and physically impossible, for all the reasons I've stated.
Semetic and Christian? Entirely possible, but you don't want to admit to being a mere semite as that wouldn't make you special enough for your liking.
White and Jewish? Yup, totally possible through the Jewish faith.
White and Jewish and Christian? See Jewish and Christian.
So this is your 'debate' is it? You deal with points by simply ignoring them and restating what you've already said? You ignore all the masses of evidence put in front of you to demonstrate why your logic is flawed, and you simply state the same logic as if repetition will make me go "Yeah, you're right really..."
So; by all means carry on 'debating' this point. But answer the others as well, rather than running and hiding like a mewling little boy.
Oh, and I haven't forgotten about the fact that you've broken the New Covenant as well by eating blood; I hope the medium done steak was worth it...
>
> I want to get every issue sorted out before we move on to the next
> one - otherwise we'll have to continually go back to previous ones.
No; you want to concentrate on one issue out of the many I've cornered you on, stick with that until the original post has been bumped off the front page, then ignore all the other questions. Then, if someone asks you to answer the other questions, you'll post "What questions?". If someone refers to the original post, you'll say "Which post?" You know; like you've done since the moment you started posting here.
Your excuses don't wash. You're a coward and a hypocrite who is running away from answering questions. What's more, you're getting increasingly desperate in your attempts to evade them. I estimate that it won't be long until you decide that "I won't answer you any more Light because you don't [insert excuse here, the actuality of which is 'you keep asking me questions that I don't like'].
So; answer all of the points I put to you please. Your misdirection is wasted on me.
>
> Jesus could never stop being Jewish - no-one can.
Then in that case, he would have had to follow the Old Covenant. Which, if that were the case, renders the New Covenant meaningless. Like I say, your ridiculous argument is a theological impossibility. And now that you're faced with being exposed as a total hypocrite in that you don't follow the Law of Moses (as all Jews MUST) yet you keep saying you're Jewish, because Jesus was a Jew and how else could you maintain your fantasy of being the next messiah?
>
> Light - can you stop being White - and I don't mean by changing the
> colour of your skin, I mean by following a different belief?
No I can't. And I couldn't stop being semetic either if I were, but now you're saying that you're not semetic, you're white. So if you're white, your only tie to Judaism is by faith alone rather than by race. Ergo, to maintain your claims of being a jew you have to follow the Old Covenant. And you've already admitted that you don't. Yet you keep saying you're a jew as well as a christian. I've detailed, in easy to follow stages, just why this is simply not possible.
>
> One more thing; if you're Jewish, why did you claim to be white and
> english in this post;
>
> Light - I gave you credit before. Seriously I thought you understood
> what I was. But I'll have to break it down for you.
I do understand what you are; a lying, lonely little hypocrite who wants to believe that he's the next messiah because that's the only way he can get anything appraoching joy in his miserable and fearful existence.
>
> Skin Colour: White
> Background: Jewish
> Nationality: English (born in England as were parents and
> grandparents)
>
> Does that make sense?
Nope. It reads like you're trying to tell me that 2 contradictory lies you've told are both simoultaneously true. I'm afraid that you've entirely failed to address the issues I have with your claims of judaism and Christianity. All you've done is said, over and over again, "I'm a jew and a christian, but I don't have to follow the Law of Moses as all jews have to, and racially I'm a jew...oops, except I'm not but I am because I'm now a white jewish christian". Your lies are spiralling out of control Gump, and you're having to twist reality a little further with each one, aren't you?
>
> Listen Light - most - most not all, but most Jewish people in England
> would be like me - White, Jewish and English.
Ahh, so now we're moving the goalposts again? Suddenly, Jews are white? Yet you've tried to distinguish yourself as racially Jewish. And Jews are not a caucasian race; they're a semetic people of the middle east.
Most Jewish people in England would point at you and laugh until you cried. Let me make this clear;
Jewish and christian? Theologically and physically impossible, for all the reasons I've stated.
Semetic and Christian? Entirely possible, but you don't want to admit to being a mere semite as that wouldn't make you special enough for your liking.
White and Jewish? Yup, totally possible through the Jewish faith.
White and Jewish and Christian? See Jewish and Christian.
So this is your 'debate' is it? You deal with points by simply ignoring them and restating what you've already said? You ignore all the masses of evidence put in front of you to demonstrate why your logic is flawed, and you simply state the same logic as if repetition will make me go "Yeah, you're right really..."
So; by all means carry on 'debating' this point. But answer the others as well, rather than running and hiding like a mewling little boy.
Oh, and I haven't forgotten about the fact that you've broken the New Covenant as well by eating blood; I hope the medium done steak was worth it...
Light wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> Jesus was still Jewish - I am still Jewish. Light, if you can't
> accept
> this - then the other questions won't be answered any time soon.
>
> Mwah ha ha haaaa! Typical cowardly Forest Fan; ignore the fact that
> his rather elementary attempt to shut me up has been thoroughly
> eviscerated. Simply repeat what was said, and pretend it hasn't been
> discredited. I can't say as I'm surprised you've made a post like
> this;
> "Unless you stop pointing out all the gaping flaws in my poor
> excuses for arguments, I'm going to stop arguing with you".
> Pathetic.
I want to get every issue sorted out before we move on to the next one - otherwise we'll have to continually go back to previous ones.
The simple fact is that your comparison to Christ is borne
> entirely of your own messianic complex, and you don't like that it
> was insultingly easy to answer your ridiculous attempt to sustain
> your "I'm Jewish and Christian but I don't have to follow the
> Old Covenant of the Jews". Do you have any other arguments to
> add, or are you just going to repeat that one and hope I'll leave you
> alone?
Jesus could never stop being Jewish - no-one can.
Light - can you stop being White - and I don't mean by changing the colour of your skin, I mean by following a different belief?
>
> One more thing; if you're Jewish, why did you claim to be white and
> english in this post;
Light - I gave you credit before. Seriously I thought you understood what I was. But I'll have to break it down for you.
Skin Colour: White
Background: Jewish
Nationality: English (born in England as were parents and grandparents)
Does that make sense?
>
> [URL]http://ukchatforums.reserve.co.uk/display_messages.php?threadid=98688&forumid=423&offset=0¤tsort=desc[/URL]
>
> It's almost as if you've lost track of the lies you're telling in a
> deeply contemptible attempt to convince the posters on a webboard
> that you're as special as you hope your abusive God thinks you are...
Listen Light - most - most not all, but most Jewish people in England would be like me - White, Jewish and English.
> Forest Fan wrote:
> Jesus was still Jewish - I am still Jewish. Light, if you can't
> accept
> this - then the other questions won't be answered any time soon.
>
> Mwah ha ha haaaa! Typical cowardly Forest Fan; ignore the fact that
> his rather elementary attempt to shut me up has been thoroughly
> eviscerated. Simply repeat what was said, and pretend it hasn't been
> discredited. I can't say as I'm surprised you've made a post like
> this;
> "Unless you stop pointing out all the gaping flaws in my poor
> excuses for arguments, I'm going to stop arguing with you".
> Pathetic.
I want to get every issue sorted out before we move on to the next one - otherwise we'll have to continually go back to previous ones.
The simple fact is that your comparison to Christ is borne
> entirely of your own messianic complex, and you don't like that it
> was insultingly easy to answer your ridiculous attempt to sustain
> your "I'm Jewish and Christian but I don't have to follow the
> Old Covenant of the Jews". Do you have any other arguments to
> add, or are you just going to repeat that one and hope I'll leave you
> alone?
Jesus could never stop being Jewish - no-one can.
Light - can you stop being White - and I don't mean by changing the colour of your skin, I mean by following a different belief?
>
> One more thing; if you're Jewish, why did you claim to be white and
> english in this post;
Light - I gave you credit before. Seriously I thought you understood what I was. But I'll have to break it down for you.
Skin Colour: White
Background: Jewish
Nationality: English (born in England as were parents and grandparents)
Does that make sense?
>
> [URL]http://ukchatforums.reserve.co.uk/display_messages.php?threadid=98688&forumid=423&offset=0¤tsort=desc[/URL]
>
> It's almost as if you've lost track of the lies you're telling in a
> deeply contemptible attempt to convince the posters on a webboard
> that you're as special as you hope your abusive God thinks you are...
Listen Light - most - most not all, but most Jewish people in England would be like me - White, Jewish and English.
Light wrote:
attempt to convince the posters on a webboard
>
attempt to convince the posters on a webboard
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