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Right let me explain something to you about people.
People don't like to be told what to do. You may be right, you may be wrong, but endlessly forcing your beliefs on people is going to force away more people than it 'saves'.
Don't think of us as the 'children of God' think of us as the 'Adolescents of God' now apply all the cliches that go with adolescence: The more you tell us to do something the more likely we are to go against what you say, we aren't going to listen to you when we can think for ourselves, we are making the most of our freedom and anyone who is seeking to limit that freedom is biting off more than they can chew.
What we want is actions NOT words if you can show people what good you or your faction of christianity actually PHYSICALLY DOES to make the world a better place, you've a much better chance of having people listen to you. If you go around quoting events that 'happened' hundreds of years ago most people will ignore you. You have to be relevant to people for them to listen to you, so what I want you to let us know is what does your particular branch of christianty PHYSICALLY DO to make the world a better place? Do you have schemes that help the poor? Do you try to help areas suffering from disease and famine? If your branch merely focuses it's energy on converting people through word of mouth alone and not through deeds then I'm afraid your branch is destined to wither and die.
People don't like to be told what to do. You may be right, you may be wrong, but endlessly forcing your beliefs on people is going to force away more people than it 'saves'.
Don't think of us as the 'children of God' think of us as the 'Adolescents of God' now apply all the cliches that go with adolescence: The more you tell us to do something the more likely we are to go against what you say, we aren't going to listen to you when we can think for ourselves, we are making the most of our freedom and anyone who is seeking to limit that freedom is biting off more than they can chew.
What we want is actions NOT words if you can show people what good you or your faction of christianity actually PHYSICALLY DOES to make the world a better place, you've a much better chance of having people listen to you. If you go around quoting events that 'happened' hundreds of years ago most people will ignore you. You have to be relevant to people for them to listen to you, so what I want you to let us know is what does your particular branch of christianty PHYSICALLY DO to make the world a better place? Do you have schemes that help the poor? Do you try to help areas suffering from disease and famine? If your branch merely focuses it's energy on converting people through word of mouth alone and not through deeds then I'm afraid your branch is destined to wither and die.
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Well, they obviously don't now, do they?
So what's the problem. Things change, get over it. Why should someone not be allowed to share the wonderout word of the Lord simply because of their gender?
So what's the problem. Things change, get over it. Why should someone not be allowed to share the wonderout word of the Lord simply because of their gender?
women don't need to be ministers to get power over men
SHEEPY wrote:
> Why does God say women can't be ministers?
Because women would become ministers for the wrong reasons, like wanting to get power over men.
> Why does God say women can't be ministers?
Because women would become ministers for the wrong reasons, like wanting to get power over men.
I know, but I got the answers I was interested in.
We should really stop posting topics asking him to come and quote bigoted bible phrases at us. It won't get beter if you pick it.
SHEEPY wrote:
> Why does God say women can't be ministers?
Because I have my hand up his ass.
> Why does God say women can't be ministers?
Because I have my hand up his ass.
Forest Fan wrote:
> It is only up to the Lord to decide the eternal state of someone, I
> would expect any people who are homo-sexuals AFTER asking Jesus into
> their heart, not repenting until death would go to Hell. As for women
> ministers they would probably not go to Hell, but God would be very
> angry with them, for ignoring His Word.
Have you got a flowchart with this on? It would be so much easier to understand than the Bible.
Are you a gay?
Yes
Are you a good gay?
Yes
Do you give and receive?
Yes
Are you repentent for being gay?
No
GO TO HELL
> It is only up to the Lord to decide the eternal state of someone, I
> would expect any people who are homo-sexuals AFTER asking Jesus into
> their heart, not repenting until death would go to Hell. As for women
> ministers they would probably not go to Hell, but God would be very
> angry with them, for ignoring His Word.
Have you got a flowchart with this on? It would be so much easier to understand than the Bible.
Are you a gay?
Yes
Are you a good gay?
Yes
Do you give and receive?
Yes
Are you repentent for being gay?
No
GO TO HELL
Why does God say women can't be ministers?
Jackus wrote:
> So even if a homosexual was as devout as you, he would be denied entry
> to heaven just because of his sexuality? Why don't you just condemn
> all women who are devout enough to want to become ministers?
It is only up to the Lord to decide the eternal state of someone, I would expect any people who are homo-sexuals AFTER asking Jesus into their heart, not repenting until death would go to Hell. As for women ministers they would probably not go to Hell, but God would be very angry with them, for ignoring His Word.
> So even if a homosexual was as devout as you, he would be denied entry
> to heaven just because of his sexuality? Why don't you just condemn
> all women who are devout enough to want to become ministers?
It is only up to the Lord to decide the eternal state of someone, I would expect any people who are homo-sexuals AFTER asking Jesus into their heart, not repenting until death would go to Hell. As for women ministers they would probably not go to Hell, but God would be very angry with them, for ignoring His Word.
So even if a homosexual was as devout as you, he would be denied entry to heaven just because of his sexuality? Why don't you just condemn all women who are devout enough to want to become ministers?
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