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"Forest Fan: Some advice"

Right let me explain something to you about people.

People don't like to be told what to do. You may be right, you may be wrong, but endlessly forcing your beliefs on people is going to force away more people than it 'saves'.
Don't think of us as the 'children of God' think of us as the 'Adolescents of God' now apply all the cliches that go with adolescence: The more you tell us to do something the more likely we are to go against what you say, we aren't going to listen to you when we can think for ourselves, we are making the most of our freedom and anyone who is seeking to limit that freedom is biting off more than they can chew.
What we want is actions NOT words if you can show people what good you or your faction of christianity actually PHYSICALLY DOES to make the world a better place, you've a much better chance of having people listen to you. If you go around quoting events that 'happened' hundreds of years ago most people will ignore you. You have to be relevant to people for them to listen to you, so what I want you to let us know is what does your particular branch of christianty PHYSICALLY DO to make the world a better place? Do you have schemes that help the poor? Do you try to help areas suffering from disease and famine? If your branch merely focuses it's energy on converting people through word of mouth alone and not through deeds then I'm afraid your branch is destined to wither and die.

Jackus wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
> FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> Well, they obviously don't now, do they?
> So what's the problem. Things change, get over it. Why should
> someone
> not be allowed to share the wonderout word of the Lord simply
> because
> of their gender?
>
> Because the Word of God never changes. Anyway men are the head of
> the
> household and the church, it is exactly the same logic, got it?
>
> No, how is it exactly the same?

Because in the same way men should be head of the household, men should be head of the church.

FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
>
> Are we talking about you or just "a gay"?
>
> You.

Um... no FFF, that doesn't apply to me, however to all the Homo-sexuals out there this verse might help;

"Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor HOMOSEXUALS, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God." 1 Corinthians 9&10

Forest Fan wrote:
> FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> Well, they obviously don't now, do they?
> So what's the problem. Things change, get over it. Why should
> someone
> not be allowed to share the wonderout word of the Lord simply
> because
> of their gender?
>
> Because the Word of God never changes. Anyway men are the head of the
> household and the church, it is exactly the same logic, got it?

No, how is it exactly the same?

Forest Fan wrote:
> FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> Well, they obviously don't now, do they?
> So what's the problem. Things change, get over it. Why should
> someone
> not be allowed to share the wonderout word of the Lord simply
> because
> of their gender?
>
> Because the Word of God never changes. Anyway men are the head of the
> household and the church, it is exactly the same logic, got it?

The same lame, moronic logic as 3000 years ago, yes.
And the Word of God has changed, many times.

Forest Fan wrote:
> ßora† §agdiyeV wrote:
> women don't need to be ministers to get power over men
>
> But some of them do.

Oh, and Men would never commit such a hanust crime.

(yes, I can't spell hanust)

Forest Fan wrote:
> The sagacious one wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
>
> It is only up to the Lord to decide the eternal state of someone, I
> would expect any people who are homo-sexuals AFTER asking Jesus into
> their heart, not repenting until death would go to Hell. As for
> women
> ministers they would probably not go to Hell, but God would be very
> angry with them, for ignoring His Word.
>
> Have you got a flowchart with this on? It would be so much easier to
> understand than the Bible.
>
> Are you a gay?
>
> Yes
>
> Are you a good gay?
>
> Yes
>
> Do you give and receive?
>
> Yes
>
> Are you repentent for being gay?
>
> No
>
> GO TO HELL
>
> Are we talking about you or just "a gay"?

You.

FinalFantasyFanatic wrote:
> Well, they obviously don't now, do they?
> So what's the problem. Things change, get over it. Why should someone
> not be allowed to share the wonderout word of the Lord simply because
> of their gender?

Because the Word of God never changes. Anyway men are the head of the household and the church, it is exactly the same logic, got it?

Jackus wrote:
> We should really stop posting topics asking him to come and quote
> bigoted bible phrases at us. It won't get beter if you pick it.

Didn't quote any Bible verses, yet.

The sagacious one wrote:
> Forest Fan wrote:
>
> It is only up to the Lord to decide the eternal state of someone, I
> would expect any people who are homo-sexuals AFTER asking Jesus into
> their heart, not repenting until death would go to Hell. As for
> women
> ministers they would probably not go to Hell, but God would be very
> angry with them, for ignoring His Word.
>
> Have you got a flowchart with this on? It would be so much easier to
> understand than the Bible.
>
> Are you a gay?
>
> Yes
>
> Are you a good gay?
>
> Yes
>
> Do you give and receive?
>
> Yes
>
> Are you repentent for being gay?
>
> No
>
> GO TO HELL

Are we talking about you or just "a gay"?

ßora† §agdiyeV wrote:
> women don't need to be ministers to get power over men

But some of them do.