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Sat 16/04/05 at 18:34
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A few mixed emotions with Nintendo at the moment:

The Good:

A: Nintendo DS sells out in Europe, 500,000 consoles shipped!
B: PSP sales are down in Japan with new DS colours defeating them, PSP only selling half its shipment in America.
C: Resident Evil 4 charts at a respectible Number 5.

The Bad:

A: Worst march ever in America for Nintendo, hardware sales and software sales down. Due to stiff competiton.
B: Resident Evil 4 would have charted higher if Nintendo had decided to supply enough games. Selling out very quickly and then not renewing the demand! Dropped to number 19 in a week and then dropped out the charts, wouldn't have happened if Nintendo supplied the demand.
C: Exact same problem with the DS, Wario Ware Touched! STILL missing from most major retailers with Mario 64 DS just coming back into stock. DS is still selling out in places. Both a good AND bad thing.

So mixed emotions.

Oh and maybe, just maybe... I was right:

[URL]http://gamesradar.msn.co.uk/news/default.asp?pagetypeid=2&articleid=35046&subsectionid=1587[/URL]
Sun 17/04/05 at 18:55
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To be honest, I think Ninty are developing a bad habit for throwing good money after bad flogging dead horses.
(Cliché-o-meter: ****)

I have a horrible feeling that when cetrain people get an idea in their heads, they want too much to have found a great idea, they manage to convince themselves that they can make something work. They become too emotionally attached to their ideas, and their desire to be right, that they can't take a step back and re-assess a situation, acknowledge their mistakes or limitations, and change.

They gave touch screen a spin, and got some benefit from it with the DS.
But they do need to do something to change their fortunes with the next home console they release. They want to believe touch screen is their great innovation, their saviour. I fear there's a real risk they'll become too emotionally attached to the idea, too desperate to believe it's true, and they'll fail to objectively view the limitations on what they can viably achieve with the touch screen, and will ultimately shaft themselves trying to force it to work.

Hopefully someone in Ninty HQ will wake up and b****-slap some sense into the rest of them.
Sun 17/04/05 at 18:30
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"The mighty GE90-115"
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Dringo wrote:

> I expect Revolution will introduce a controller addition, such as a gyro
> control system, that will be fantastic for racing games in particular
> and perhaps a built in mic as well. Here Nintendo are encouraging
> developers to use these new systems and build games around them.
> Games based almost entirely on controller movement will be simple
> games but it doesn't mean they won't be deep.
>
>

I have to agree, a gyroscopic controller in racing games would be superb, powerslide corrections in the likes of burnout would be a pleasure to execute... and would undoubtedly appeal to the general public, gaming IS supposed to be fun after all.

*Dreams
Sun 17/04/05 at 18:25
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They're are making a Mario Bros. game for DS apparently.
Sun 17/04/05 at 17:56
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"0228"
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To be honest, I'd be happy with a nice new Mario platform game. The problem is that 98% of the people that buy video games wouldn't be so Nintendo do have to take the risk of doing something new. It's a sort of double or quits situation.
Sun 17/04/05 at 17:31
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You need to note that there is increasingly less and less profit in the video game industry. Nintendo need to do to the game industry what Apple did for MP3 players. Make a killing.

Complicated games are very different to deep games. A game could be deep and simple, I enjoyed the simplicity of Jungle Beat far more than the complexity of Prince of Persia 2. I agree there are potential pitfalls with a touch pad controller, I can see it being an issue. But then it might work.

Gyro controllers could be a fantastic new revolution and it wouldn't alienate third party support either as a traditional controller can be built along side that.

After the unbelievable success of the DS I can actually see Nintendo take the industry by storm. I could not forsee such a response to a console that lacks any real killer software. The DS is not a novalty, a novalty wears off in time whilst the DS will just become stronger and stronger.

The DS is a revolution in gaming but also allows for traditional games to be played, I'm sure that is what Iwata meant when he said "Look at the DS for the hint to Revolution". I expect Revolution will introduce a controller addition, such as a gyro control system, that will be fantastic for racing games in particular and perhaps a built in mic as well. Here Nintendo are encouraging developers to use these new systems and build games around them. Games based almost entirely on controller movement will be simple games but it doesn't mean they won't be deep.

I can see Nintendo saving themselves here, yes a potential disaster is around the corner but Nintendo have got the response they wanted with their "test" their "DS". The consumer is interested in a new style of gaming. It is possible that this refreshing approach to the next generation will gain Nintendo some fans and maybe, just maybe, we will get a Revolution/PS3 fight as close as the DS/PSP.

But hey, always the optimist me.
Sun 17/04/05 at 03:15
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Hopefully it'll be just for arcade machines or something.
Sat 16/04/05 at 23:25
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"thursdayton!"
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The biggest Cube game so far and probably the second biggest there will ever be and NoE or whoever buggers up the shipment amount..
Sat 16/04/05 at 23:19
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"The mighty GE90-115"
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Talking about supply and demand there are STILL no known copies of Resi 4 available in York.

That is all.
Sat 16/04/05 at 23:14
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"thursdayton!"
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gerrid wrote:
> But don't forget that it will be GC compatible, so obviously you'll
> still be able to play standard games with a standard joypad if you
> want.

Or they'll find some way of mapping the old controls onto this new "no button" controller.

If it even exists.
Sat 16/04/05 at 22:51
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Strafio wrote:
> I guess it's just a completely different type of games machine.
> I can see ways it could be used for good, but it alienates most
> current console games.
>
> So long as they keep it cheap so people don't have to make the choice
> between it and a PS3/Xbox2 then it could do well. I mean, it's the
> revolution for people who have played "classic" games to
> death, but that catagory doesn't include the mass market casual
> gamer.
>
> Nintendo will have to do something REALLY special with it to pull in
> the punters.
>
>
> Oh, and welcome back.
> We missed you! :-)

i missed you to my love.

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