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Pretty much confirmed news:
The Revolution will also be a wireless router for the home, connect broadband to it and it will allow nearby consoles to link and go online. Such as a DS for example.
Rumours:
Revolution will be VERY cheap, will be only a little more powerful than a Gamecube and vastly inferior to X-box 360 and PS3. There will be multiple controllers, touch screen, gyro and camera are all being touted.
If the latter is true then I told you Nintendo are gunning for a different market.
The Revolution will also be a wireless router for the home, connect broadband to it and it will allow nearby consoles to link and go online. Such as a DS for example.
Rumours:
Revolution will be VERY cheap, will be only a little more powerful than a Gamecube and vastly inferior to X-box 360 and PS3. There will be multiple controllers, touch screen, gyro and camera are all being touted.
If the latter is true then I told you Nintendo are gunning for a different market.
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Same as Strafio on this one - read the first few pages then gave up.
I really am dissapointed in Nintendos effort (although, we are really just discussing scattered information and rumours), I very much doubt your average gamer will be moved by an unsuperior console.
Which might be why Dringo is right about the whole aiming for a different market thing.
What market though?
Why go for a different market? Why not just provide gamers what they want?
I really am dissapointed in Nintendos effort (although, we are really just discussing scattered information and rumours), I very much doubt your average gamer will be moved by an unsuperior console.
Which might be why Dringo is right about the whole aiming for a different market thing.
What market though?
Why go for a different market? Why not just provide gamers what they want?
I read the first couple of pages and then couldn't keep up anymore.
Personally, I think it means that Nintendo are finally getting their heads together. The problem with the Gamecube is that Nintendo refused to "compete" with MS and Sony, but didn't quite make the Gamecube "different" enough to have a market. Instead we got a weak watered down jack of all trades.
This time Nintendo seem to be going all the way.
And I think that the idea is that it doesn't compete with the Xbox3/PS3 at all. Yes, people still like traditional games, and you'll be able to get them on the Xbox/Playstation.
Nintendo are going for something different.
Remember what I said that the Gamecube had NO issues with lack of power?
I stand by that.
We had to move on from the Snes because it's 3D performance was AWFUL (anyone played the original Starfox lately?), we had to move on from the N64 because it couldn't handle the more complex games (play Perfect Dark, Conker or Banjo Tooiee. There's some pretty heavy slowdown, isn't there?).
Any issues with the Gamecube hardware?
I reckon there's more to be done with more power (like bringing GTA style cities to life with even more complexity, and games with incredible detail like Fable etc...) but Nintendo don't make games like that. They've never made games that complicated.
So more power = reason to buy an Xbox or Playstation.
Nintendo will have a different market.
If they're smart they'll keep it affordable to anyone.
Now I think you all mis-understood Dringo when he said non-gamers.
It's not people who don't like games. It's people who don't like games that are currently on the market. I know some people who love Snes games but hate anything newer? Why? It might be a bit of a nostalgia thing, but it's also that those older games were instantly playable to almost anyone.
It takes us a lot of playing to get used to the complexity of modern games.
Yes, we with our natural expertise take it all for granted, but hand a non-gamer a Halo pad and see how they do. Hand them a Snes pad with Super Mario World or a Gameboy with Tetris (or a DS with Mario 64's petal game!) and they get hooked as easily as we do.
Nintendo are going back to their roots.
Now, I'm not going as far to say that I'm convinced by all this. It depends on:
a) The games
b) The final ideas (how much of this is rumour?)
c) If the controller is touch screen, if they use that FFF magnet thingamy idea to have buttons pop out of the touchscreen (and not just buttons, anything regarding shape - brail subtitles for blind gamers! ;-)) then it'll be genius.
d) If the controllers are wireless then they'd better not need batteries. If they have a DS style in-built battery that can be charged on the Revolution then that might work. :-)
All the criticisms I saw were about the Revolution not being like an Xbox2 or PS3. Well I bet most of you were going to get the new Xbox anyway for Rare games. Sony and MS are doing what they do best (big technical features and buldozer marketing), so Nintendo should do what they do best.
Not that they've necessarily gotten it right yet, but it sounds like they're off in the right direction! :-)
Personally, I think it means that Nintendo are finally getting their heads together. The problem with the Gamecube is that Nintendo refused to "compete" with MS and Sony, but didn't quite make the Gamecube "different" enough to have a market. Instead we got a weak watered down jack of all trades.
This time Nintendo seem to be going all the way.
And I think that the idea is that it doesn't compete with the Xbox3/PS3 at all. Yes, people still like traditional games, and you'll be able to get them on the Xbox/Playstation.
Nintendo are going for something different.
Remember what I said that the Gamecube had NO issues with lack of power?
I stand by that.
We had to move on from the Snes because it's 3D performance was AWFUL (anyone played the original Starfox lately?), we had to move on from the N64 because it couldn't handle the more complex games (play Perfect Dark, Conker or Banjo Tooiee. There's some pretty heavy slowdown, isn't there?).
Any issues with the Gamecube hardware?
I reckon there's more to be done with more power (like bringing GTA style cities to life with even more complexity, and games with incredible detail like Fable etc...) but Nintendo don't make games like that. They've never made games that complicated.
So more power = reason to buy an Xbox or Playstation.
Nintendo will have a different market.
If they're smart they'll keep it affordable to anyone.
Now I think you all mis-understood Dringo when he said non-gamers.
It's not people who don't like games. It's people who don't like games that are currently on the market. I know some people who love Snes games but hate anything newer? Why? It might be a bit of a nostalgia thing, but it's also that those older games were instantly playable to almost anyone.
It takes us a lot of playing to get used to the complexity of modern games.
Yes, we with our natural expertise take it all for granted, but hand a non-gamer a Halo pad and see how they do. Hand them a Snes pad with Super Mario World or a Gameboy with Tetris (or a DS with Mario 64's petal game!) and they get hooked as easily as we do.
Nintendo are going back to their roots.
Now, I'm not going as far to say that I'm convinced by all this. It depends on:
a) The games
b) The final ideas (how much of this is rumour?)
c) If the controller is touch screen, if they use that FFF magnet thingamy idea to have buttons pop out of the touchscreen (and not just buttons, anything regarding shape - brail subtitles for blind gamers! ;-)) then it'll be genius.
d) If the controllers are wireless then they'd better not need batteries. If they have a DS style in-built battery that can be charged on the Revolution then that might work. :-)
All the criticisms I saw were about the Revolution not being like an Xbox2 or PS3. Well I bet most of you were going to get the new Xbox anyway for Rare games. Sony and MS are doing what they do best (big technical features and buldozer marketing), so Nintendo should do what they do best.
Not that they've necessarily gotten it right yet, but it sounds like they're off in the right direction! :-)
Meh, it's still more appealing than 'coolwow' Xbox 360 and PS3.
Dringo wrote:
> Give it time, Christ, overnight changed demanded by Nintendo fans
> that no longer like their company.
They've also lost a lot of their 3rd party support from N64 years.
Lucas Arts, Midway, Konami and probably others that I haven't noticed. Infact a lot of 3rd parties that began to take interest in Nintendo at the start of the Cubes life have slowly lost interest again.
Codemasters, Eidos, SCI, Team 17, Sega etc etc
By the sounds of it the situation is only going to get much worse for Revolution. Nintendo by the sounds of it are really isolating themselves with their supposed 'innovative' approach.
> Give it time, Christ, overnight changed demanded by Nintendo fans
> that no longer like their company.
They've also lost a lot of their 3rd party support from N64 years.
Lucas Arts, Midway, Konami and probably others that I haven't noticed. Infact a lot of 3rd parties that began to take interest in Nintendo at the start of the Cubes life have slowly lost interest again.
Codemasters, Eidos, SCI, Team 17, Sega etc etc
By the sounds of it the situation is only going to get much worse for Revolution. Nintendo by the sounds of it are really isolating themselves with their supposed 'innovative' approach.
Dringo wrote:
> Donkey Kong has not had a traditional new 3D platformer, so no
> dumbing down there.
Donkey Konga is an easy game. The only thing stopping me finishing it is the pain i get from the amount of hand clapping. Wait.... the bongos are a new form of input and they dont use normal buttons but they hurt after 10 mins. Fun but painful. (link to gyro controller)
> Donkey Kong has not had a traditional new 3D platformer, so no
> dumbing down there.
Donkey Konga is an easy game. The only thing stopping me finishing it is the pain i get from the amount of hand clapping. Wait.... the bongos are a new form of input and they dont use normal buttons but they hurt after 10 mins. Fun but painful. (link to gyro controller)
Dringo wrote:
> Donkey Kong has not had a traditional new 3D platformer, so no
> dumbing down there.
Yeah because putting the licence on a simple drum game really doesn't qualify as dumbing down the licence.
You're deluded.
> Donkey Kong has not had a traditional new 3D platformer, so no
> dumbing down there.
Yeah because putting the licence on a simple drum game really doesn't qualify as dumbing down the licence.
You're deluded.
Bahh, if the Revolution is only slightly more powerfull than the GameCube then I think it's DOOMED!
No gimics are going to save it!
I mean, camera!!!! wooo... haven't seen that before. Oh no. Yes I have. On PS2!
And I'm sure it'll be used on PS3.
XBox360 games are going to look the nuts! PS3 will have good lucking games, and a wide variety of periferals itself. Look at the PS2, EyeToy, SingStar, GameTrak, Dance Mat...
Think Nintendo should just think about going 2nd/3rd party like Sega and just make cracking games, great controllers, and release them on other platforms.
:)
No gimics are going to save it!
I mean, camera!!!! wooo... haven't seen that before. Oh no. Yes I have. On PS2!
And I'm sure it'll be used on PS3.
XBox360 games are going to look the nuts! PS3 will have good lucking games, and a wide variety of periferals itself. Look at the PS2, EyeToy, SingStar, GameTrak, Dance Mat...
Think Nintendo should just think about going 2nd/3rd party like Sega and just make cracking games, great controllers, and release them on other platforms.
:)
Dringo wrote:
>
> Matter of opinion.
Where's my Goldeneye? Or for that matter any sort of quality 4-player that we had on the '64?
>
> Matter of opinion.
Where's my Goldeneye? Or for that matter any sort of quality 4-player that we had on the '64?
Crystal Chronicles is part of the Final Fantasy group of games. Except it's a major step backwards and a real slap in the face to Nintendo.
Hedfix wrote:
> Dringo wrote:
>
> There is more western and third party games for the Gamecube than
> their were for the N64.
>
>
> Shame they're not as good and don't have compelling multiplayer like
> the N64 ones then.
Matter of opinion.
> Dringo wrote:
>
> There is more western and third party games for the Gamecube than
> their were for the N64.
>
>
> Shame they're not as good and don't have compelling multiplayer like
> the N64 ones then.
Matter of opinion.
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