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Wed 21/01/04 at 22:12
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Well, the drug is being (or has been) downgraded to class C. What does this mean? The government are keen to point out that it is still illegal, that those in possession will still be arrested.

On the news tonight, they used the phrase "Cannabis, a drug tens of thousands of people choose to smoke each week". I think they are seriously underestimating how widespread its use is. I wager everyone on here knows somebody who smokes it, I certainly do. Could decriminalizing the drug work in this country? There are huge benefits for the government in the way that it would free up a lot of police time, which could be used for catching those dealing/possessing harder drugs.

Is there any point whatsoever in downgrading the drug as they have done?

Do you have any views on the drug, or the questions I have asked above?
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Sun 25/01/04 at 16:06
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Cannabis is smoked by alot of people. I also know people that smoke it too. There is alot of people that do it and no matter how people look at it it's always going to be there. Wether it be for pleasure or for pain relief. I dont care who does what with it as long as they dont do it around me. Those who do however that smoke it for pleasure i personally think are wasters. Those who smoke it as a form of pain relief i have no problem with that.

I knew a woman who had MS and she was always in constant pain. I use to see her day in day out and it hurt me to see her hurting and in pain. Then someone suggested cannabis to her, and its done her the world of good and she is so happy. She feels a little uneasy for smoking the stuff and she doesnt like to do it but if this is releaving her of the pain she went through then i dont see what the problem is.
Sun 25/01/04 at 15:46
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Timmargh wrote:
>  - Nina Booth-Clibborn, executive director, said: "A large
> number of people have reported to us that cannabis helps them to
> manage severe medical conditions, even when prescription medicines
> have failed."

Yukikaze wrote:
> But strangely no official body has reported this conclusively ...

Just because no official body has reported it, it doesn't mean it isn't true. Do you base your entire knowledge and beliefs on what is officially reported?


Yukikaze wrote:
> ... and you've sidestepped the effects of Cannabis.

I haven't side-stepped anything - I was under the impression that we we discussing my choice to smoke cannabis for pain relief and your statement that it made me a 'waster', not the effects of cannabis.
Sun 25/01/04 at 15:41
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Timmargh wrote:
>  - Drug companies have isolated the active ingredients in
> cannabis and made them available in the form of a pill or a spray.

Yukikaze wrote:
> So why are you taking Cannabis?


Because:-

a) the pill and spray mentioned in the article aren't available, only to the people taking part in the trial;

b) I choose to.
Sun 25/01/04 at 15:38
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Yukikaze wrote:
> Why has no one ever manufactured this wonder drug that would have
> massive potential as it would apparently be the only thing to work?

I never said nothing else would work.
Sun 25/01/04 at 15:36
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Yukikaze wrote:
> If it has medicinal uses why has no one developed a legal drug from it?
> Medicine largely comes from plant sources and nature. Why has no one
> ever manufactured this wonder drug that would have massive potential
> as it would apparently be the only thing to work?

Timmargh wrote:
>  - Cannabis-based pain relief drugs could be available on
> prescription from the National Heath Service (NHS) within two years,
> the Department of Health (DoH) has announced.

Yukikaze wrote:
> But not Cannabis.


You asked why no-one was developing a drug and I've shown you evidence that someone is - what's the point in saying "But not Cannabis."? It's obvious it wouldn't cannabis - that would defeat the whole object of developing the drug; it would be easier to simply convert cannabis to pill form.
Sun 25/01/04 at 14:44
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Timmargh wrote:
>  - Cannabis-based pain relief drugs could be available on
> prescription from the National Heath Service (NHS) within two years,
> the Department of Health (DoH) has announced.

But not Cannabis.

>  - "I think it's important to make a distinction between
> the drugs for MS pain relief and the use of cannabis for smoking, for
> pleasure," said Lord Hunt.

Exactly - not cannabis, cannabis based drugs. You're arguing for Cannabis.

>  - Drug companies have isolated the active ingredients in
> cannabis and made them available in the form of a pill or a spray.

So why are you taking Cannabis?

>  - Nina Booth-Clibborn, executive director, said: "A large
> number of people have reported to us that cannabis helps them to
> manage severe medical conditions, even when prescription medicines
> have failed."

But strangely no official body has reported this conclusively, and you've sidestepped the effects of Cannabis.
Sun 25/01/04 at 14:34
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Yeah, agreed.
Sun 25/01/04 at 14:24
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"Puerile Shagging"
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The law isn’t always black and white. But I think it needs to be. It needs to be one law for all, not one law for all apart from a few.
Sun 25/01/04 at 14:17
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Good point. I suppose I phrased it badly.

I'm just saying certain things need to be considered when prosecuting different people. The law shouldn't be so black and white.
Sun 25/01/04 at 14:12
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But the way you said the businessman should know better makes it sound like he deserves to be prosecuted more, just because of his social standing.

Not every tramp is a drug addict, or even takes drugs, so why should one that does get special treatment?
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