The "Freeola Customer Forum" forum, which includes Retro Game Reviews, has been archived and is now read-only. You cannot post here or create a new thread or review on this forum.
The 2 disc set is being released on April 2nd (according to both play and CDWOW)
"Special features include:
Revolutions Recalibrated – A behind-the-scenes overview that drills deep into the groundbreaking work that went into the final chapter.
CG Revolution – Explore the special effects arsenal and take an inside look at the making of the creatures and environs of the CGI-intensive third movie.
Super Burly Brawl – A crash course on the final Neo/Smith showdown with three multiple video streams: storyboards, behind-the-scenes and the final scene all running in sync.
Follow the White Rabbit – Watch the special features and select the White Rabbit icon to go further into the making of the film.
-- Neo Realism: The Evolution of Bullet Time – A closer look at how “Bullet Time” was taken to the next degree of madness.
-- Super Big Mini Models - The intricacies of filming in the world of models and miniatures.
-- Double Agent Smith – A look at what it took to make this incredible scene, including the work to replicate Hugo Weaving, with body doubles, lifelike mannequins, head casts and costumes.
-- Mind Over Matter: The Physicality of The Matrix – A look at what it takes for the actors and stunt people to perform the dramatic stunts of The Matrix.
• Future Gamer The Matrix Online – An introduction to the massive multi-player game The Matrix Online, created by the Wachowski Brothers.
• 3-D Evolution– Transition to different levels of the Matrix to view concept art, storyboards, pre-visualizations and realizations for several elements in Revolutions.
• Before the Revolution – 3-D timeline of the concurrent story development occurring in the Matrix between the Matrix trilogy, The Animatrix, and Enter the Matrix. "
"Special features include:
Revolutions Recalibrated – A behind-the-scenes overview that drills deep into the groundbreaking work that went into the final chapter.
CG Revolution – Explore the special effects arsenal and take an inside look at the making of the creatures and environs of the CGI-intensive third movie.
Super Burly Brawl – A crash course on the final Neo/Smith showdown with three multiple video streams: storyboards, behind-the-scenes and the final scene all running in sync.
Follow the White Rabbit – Watch the special features and select the White Rabbit icon to go further into the making of the film.
-- Neo Realism: The Evolution of Bullet Time – A closer look at how “Bullet Time” was taken to the next degree of madness.
-- Super Big Mini Models - The intricacies of filming in the world of models and miniatures.
-- Double Agent Smith – A look at what it took to make this incredible scene, including the work to replicate Hugo Weaving, with body doubles, lifelike mannequins, head casts and costumes.
-- Mind Over Matter: The Physicality of The Matrix – A look at what it takes for the actors and stunt people to perform the dramatic stunts of The Matrix.
• Future Gamer The Matrix Online – An introduction to the massive multi-player game The Matrix Online, created by the Wachowski Brothers.
• 3-D Evolution– Transition to different levels of the Matrix to view concept art, storyboards, pre-visualizations and realizations for several elements in Revolutions.
• Before the Revolution – 3-D timeline of the concurrent story development occurring in the Matrix between the Matrix trilogy, The Animatrix, and Enter the Matrix. "
Page:
"Sounds like you need to unplug."
Yes, exactly.
Though I wouldn't say the first was simple or basic. I didn't fully understand the plot the first time I saw it, and it admittedly took me three watchings until I was completely sure of it. The great thing about the original is that you can watch it over and over again and each time it seems new and immensely enjoyable. Whatsmore, I'm STILL noticing new things when I watch it through.
e.g.
Stoned man at Neo's door: "You're my saviour man; my very own Jesus Christ"
And he really is.
Though I wouldn't say the first was simple or basic. I didn't fully understand the plot the first time I saw it, and it admittedly took me three watchings until I was completely sure of it. The great thing about the original is that you can watch it over and over again and each time it seems new and immensely enjoyable. Whatsmore, I'm STILL noticing new things when I watch it through.
e.g.
Stoned man at Neo's door: "You're my saviour man; my very own Jesus Christ"
And he really is.
Maverick42 wrote:
> Ah, but it's a fair generalisation to make from my experience.
>
> You'd be surprised at the shocking amount of people I've talked to
> who said Reloaded had a crap plot, yet had no idea what it was.
Too true, sure, only uber fans probably get the whole plot and every intricacy of it, but a hell of a lot of people got not one jot of it.
After my cousin saw it she wanted to know how the cities were rebuilt so fast at the end of the film because everywhere was wrecked in the first film....*groans*
A mate said "the bit on the underground was a waste of time" and I've heard many such comments.
First film has simple plot and won attention with slow mo gun fights, swirling trenchcoats and automatic weapons fire mixed with a touch of Terminator apocalytic vision. Basic storyline as well. Neo lives in fantasy world, Neo rescued by Morpheus, Morpheus captured, Neo and Trinity rescue Morpheus, Neo fight Smith, Win, superman bit. Then we get Reloaded which doesn't go for the mass appeal factor of sfx, adds a bit of complexity, then we get Revolutions when things (for Hollywood) get complicated and people don't get it. But hey, it's not like their is a tradition of films being disliked for making people use a brain eh?
> Ah, but it's a fair generalisation to make from my experience.
>
> You'd be surprised at the shocking amount of people I've talked to
> who said Reloaded had a crap plot, yet had no idea what it was.
Too true, sure, only uber fans probably get the whole plot and every intricacy of it, but a hell of a lot of people got not one jot of it.
After my cousin saw it she wanted to know how the cities were rebuilt so fast at the end of the film because everywhere was wrecked in the first film....*groans*
A mate said "the bit on the underground was a waste of time" and I've heard many such comments.
First film has simple plot and won attention with slow mo gun fights, swirling trenchcoats and automatic weapons fire mixed with a touch of Terminator apocalytic vision. Basic storyline as well. Neo lives in fantasy world, Neo rescued by Morpheus, Morpheus captured, Neo and Trinity rescue Morpheus, Neo fight Smith, Win, superman bit. Then we get Reloaded which doesn't go for the mass appeal factor of sfx, adds a bit of complexity, then we get Revolutions when things (for Hollywood) get complicated and people don't get it. But hey, it's not like their is a tradition of films being disliked for making people use a brain eh?
Mess wrote:
> By taking over Neo, Smith unbalanced the equation and so as the
> opposite, had to be destroyed also. Neo had to be completely removed
> from the Matrix for this to happen and because of his awesome
> 'connection', he was killed. Notice the Jesus-pose as he was carted
> off.
No, Neo LET Smith take over him (as he realised it was the only way) so that the machine could use Neo as a link to destroy Smith. That's what was going on when his body was being "pumped" in the real world.
> By taking over Neo, Smith unbalanced the equation and so as the
> opposite, had to be destroyed also. Neo had to be completely removed
> from the Matrix for this to happen and because of his awesome
> 'connection', he was killed. Notice the Jesus-pose as he was carted
> off.
No, Neo LET Smith take over him (as he realised it was the only way) so that the machine could use Neo as a link to destroy Smith. That's what was going on when his body was being "pumped" in the real world.
By taking over Neo, Smith unbalanced the equation and so as the opposite, had to be destroyed also. Neo had to be completely removed from the Matrix for this to happen and because of his awesome 'connection', he was killed. Notice the Jesus-pose as he was carted off.
When Revolutions comes out I plan to enjoy a mammoth session of back-to-back viewing of the Matrix. Yum.
When Revolutions comes out I plan to enjoy a mammoth session of back-to-back viewing of the Matrix. Yum.
maddmun wrote:
> They never died, they lost the Smith that covered them, this is shown
> when we see the oracle at the end.
Hang on; isn't it a little strange how the Oracle was left and nobody else? Even Neo (who "remains irrevicably human") disappeared, and we presume he's dead when we see his outstretched body in the Matrix. We then also see Saphi lying alone on the stone. My conclusion? They remain because they are programs.
> They never died, they lost the Smith that covered them, this is shown
> when we see the oracle at the end.
Hang on; isn't it a little strange how the Oracle was left and nobody else? Even Neo (who "remains irrevicably human") disappeared, and we presume he's dead when we see his outstretched body in the Matrix. We then also see Saphi lying alone on the stone. My conclusion? They remain because they are programs.
maddmun wrote:
> MoJoJoJo wrote:
> I mean, we already knew Neo could beat Smith - hell, he beat up
> dozens of Smiths in the 2nd film. There was no indication that Smith
> had physically become faster or stronger (or that he could fly...)
>
> It was sorta indicated when he copied himself over the oracle, I
> mean, every other time he copied himself he just copied, but whn he
> copied himself over the oracle it got all windy and stuff.
Indeed. In fact, it's glaringly obvious that Smith's posession of the Oracle is what gave him his supreme power. As somebody who claims to have fully understood the film, I'd have thought you'd have got this MoJo. Or are we reading you wrong?
> MoJoJoJo wrote:
> I mean, we already knew Neo could beat Smith - hell, he beat up
> dozens of Smiths in the 2nd film. There was no indication that Smith
> had physically become faster or stronger (or that he could fly...)
>
> It was sorta indicated when he copied himself over the oracle, I
> mean, every other time he copied himself he just copied, but whn he
> copied himself over the oracle it got all windy and stuff.
Indeed. In fact, it's glaringly obvious that Smith's posession of the Oracle is what gave him his supreme power. As somebody who claims to have fully understood the film, I'd have thought you'd have got this MoJo. Or are we reading you wrong?
Mess wrote:
> Smith was a virus that infected everyone, just how a normal virus
> takes over our cells. So I guess when the virus is destroyed, the
> cell (or the person/program Smith has taken over) is released.
Actually, that can't be done. Once a cell has been infected by a virus, the only thing to do is to kill that cell to stop the virus spreading.
Biological fact.
> Smith was a virus that infected everyone, just how a normal virus
> takes over our cells. So I guess when the virus is destroyed, the
> cell (or the person/program Smith has taken over) is released.
Actually, that can't be done. Once a cell has been infected by a virus, the only thing to do is to kill that cell to stop the virus spreading.
Biological fact.
ßora† SagdiyeV wrote:
> I agree with all that, but there are tonnes of plot holes in the
> series, such as :
>
> What happens to all the people who were took over by smith when the
> matrix is reset? - is the matrix now completely empty, or are those
> people 'brought back to life'?
They never died, they lost the Smith that covered them, this is shown when we see the oracle at the end.
> and they fob you off with crappy none-sensical explanations :
>
> Neo: "Tell me how I stopped 4 sentinels by thinking it..."
> Oracle: "The power of the One extends beyond this world. It
> reaches from here all the way back to where it came from: The
> Source."
Yep, that was retarded.
> plus, what the hell happens to the little girl (sati) and seraph for
> most of revolutions?
Smith copied himself over them, he made it rather obviouswhen he said (Something along the lines of) "I'm a lot nicer once you get to know us"
> I agree with all that, but there are tonnes of plot holes in the
> series, such as :
>
> What happens to all the people who were took over by smith when the
> matrix is reset? - is the matrix now completely empty, or are those
> people 'brought back to life'?
They never died, they lost the Smith that covered them, this is shown when we see the oracle at the end.
> and they fob you off with crappy none-sensical explanations :
>
> Neo: "Tell me how I stopped 4 sentinels by thinking it..."
> Oracle: "The power of the One extends beyond this world. It
> reaches from here all the way back to where it came from: The
> Source."
Yep, that was retarded.
> plus, what the hell happens to the little girl (sati) and seraph for
> most of revolutions?
Smith copied himself over them, he made it rather obviouswhen he said (Something along the lines of) "I'm a lot nicer once you get to know us"
MoJoJoJo wrote:
> Na, I didn't like it. The big robot action scenes were good, but there
> was far too little in-Matrix stuff and the final Neo-Smith fight was
> dreadful compared to their amazing encounter in the first film.
>
> I mean, we already knew Neo could beat Smith - hell, he beat up
> dozens of Smiths in the 2nd film. There was no indication that Smith
> had physically become faster or stronger (or that he could fly...)
It was sorta indicated when he copied himself over the oracle, I mean, every other time he copied himself he just copied, but whn he copied himself over the oracle it got all windy and stuff.
> Na, I didn't like it. The big robot action scenes were good, but there
> was far too little in-Matrix stuff and the final Neo-Smith fight was
> dreadful compared to their amazing encounter in the first film.
>
> I mean, we already knew Neo could beat Smith - hell, he beat up
> dozens of Smiths in the 2nd film. There was no indication that Smith
> had physically become faster or stronger (or that he could fly...)
It was sorta indicated when he copied himself over the oracle, I mean, every other time he copied himself he just copied, but whn he copied himself over the oracle it got all windy and stuff.
Page: