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Sun 23/11/03 at 20:02
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"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Post these suck-ass stories somewhere else.
Somebody needs to say it and I don't care about what you think of me enough to be the one to stand up and say it.

They suck.
Plain and simple.
Harsh but true. Deal with it.
Most of this first page are stories. Bad ones.
A couple are alright, but most are sub-A Level English lit essays on predictability.
"He sat in a big armchair in room. The room was big, he turned on a television. The television was big"
Christ....

"What do you know Goatboy? Who are you to tell us what to post and where? Blah blah blah blah"
I'm me, it's true, shut up.
"Intelligent discussion"
Nothing about the bombs in Turkey, nothing about Dubya's visit to London, nothing about the anniversary of JFK's assasination.
"Well I'm not interested in that stuff"
Well you should be. It's the world, it's what is going on around you, it's what will affect and shape the outcomes of your lives.
Or if you *are* going to write a short story, write one that is
(a) Interesting
(b) Has a point to it
(c) Doesn't involve murder/blood/vampires/war

You want to learn to write?
Great, take a ticket and join the back of line. It stretches waaaaaaay round the corner there, bring a packed lunch cos you'll be there a while.

You want to write seriously, you want it to be what, published?
Go for it.
But please, once you've written something, read it back to see if it can be improved. Give it to somebody that doesn't know you wrote it.
And stop crying when somebody says "That's terrible/sorry not interested/read it before/whatever".

Do me a favour you budding Danielle Steeles:
I'll set you a topic to write about in another thread, write your best attempt in there.
Your very best, re-write it again and then again.
Then submit it.
Write about what you know, something that matters to you. Inject it with yourself and not 5 sentences trying to describe the bloody temperature.

I'll pop back in a couple hours and give you the topic.
Trust me, I'm (in 2 years time) an English Teacher, and y'all are my students.

Just please stop bashing out gore stories with your forehead rods and getting huffy when somebody says "That reeks of ass".
Sun 23/11/03 at 22:32
Regular
"cachoo"
Posts: 7,037
Yep.. but everyone has different opinions. So I could write a short story and love it wheras everyone else might hate it. I enjoy half the stories in Life. Why don't they just bring back the damn Stories forum?! Der!
Sun 23/11/03 at 22:29
"period drama"
Posts: 19,792
Well, if you read it and it's crap then you know. Like it's un-emotive or tedious or badly-stuctured or repetative or cliched or just lame.
It's happened enough times to me, many pieces have been deleted after I read them back.
Sun 23/11/03 at 22:28
"I love yo... lamp."
Posts: 19,577
Well if people want to post stories let them - in the the hopefully reinstated Stories forum. It has been archived, but I'm sure that could be undone. Simple solution that keeps everyone happy.
Sun 23/11/03 at 22:27
Regular
"cachoo"
Posts: 7,037
How is someone supposed to know their own story is crap ?
Sun 23/11/03 at 22:25
"period drama"
Posts: 19,792
Well, it's probably me you're going at.
I've put 4 bits up in the last 5 days.
But now I'm pretty much out of creative and other juices.

But there will be more, because I think I'm quite a good writer. And I want to write. And I want feedback I can't get anywhere else. So .. y'know, tough.
Sun 23/11/03 at 21:18
Regular
"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Goatboy wrote:
> Or if you *are* going to write a short story, write one that is
> (a) Interesting
> (b) Has a point to it
> (c) Doesn't involve murder/blood/vampires/war
--

This is my point.
I'm not trying to dictate to anybody that they shouldn't post stories, but that they shouldn't post crap ones.
I'm not saying they are *all* bad. But I read a couple, then a couple more and thought "Christ" and got the image of a huggy-kissy group of wannabe authors fecklessly applauding every single story written "just because you did it".

It's fantastic that people want to write, it really is. Not enough people do that. But by the same token, some are really really poor and I personally cannot say "Well done!!" and pat them on the head just for trying.
That's false and patronising.
It's the same as...I don't know...watching the special olympics and turning to somebody and saying "They're just so brave!".
Write away,knock yourself out.
But re-read, edit, revise before you hit "submit".

And I'm not saying I'm correct, I could just be a loudmouth knowidall oaf trying to impose his idea of "good" on everyone else.
Sun 23/11/03 at 20:56
Regular
Posts: 302
Er, I don't think I am missing the point. The point is, Goatboy wants everyone to stop posting stories. Fair enough. I just say, stories will always be written, and always posted, and usually here, as there is no where else to put them. If Goatboy wants this problem solved, he should campaign for the return of the story forum.
Sun 23/11/03 at 20:51
Regular
"Which one's pink?"
Posts: 12,152
Mithras wrote:
> Well, were the hell else should stories be posted? There is no set
> forum.

You're missing his point completely.

Just stop pumping out crappy stories in the first place. Because they are just that. Crappy. And they're all the same - man blows other mans head off with shotgun, psychopathic delinquent runs rampage with machete etc etc.

Just stop it.
Sun 23/11/03 at 20:45
Regular
Posts: 302
Well, were the hell else should stories be posted? There is no set forum. General Chat is inhabited by alot of idiots and stories will not be read there and drop quickly down the list of threads. This forum is dominated by political related crap. A bit of variation is not a bad thing. Besides, its not like the stories will go on for ever. And this thread won't change anything. No-one will listen, and you can't effectively stop people posting stories Goatboy unless you go to their house and beat them up.
*hides under bed*
Sun 23/11/03 at 20:20
"slightlyshortertagl"
Posts: 10,759
Goatboy wrote:
> nothing about Dubya's visit to London

http://ukchatforums.reserve.co.uk/display_messages.php? threadid=88856&forumid=423

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