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Sun 23/11/03 at 20:02
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"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Post these suck-ass stories somewhere else.
Somebody needs to say it and I don't care about what you think of me enough to be the one to stand up and say it.

They suck.
Plain and simple.
Harsh but true. Deal with it.
Most of this first page are stories. Bad ones.
A couple are alright, but most are sub-A Level English lit essays on predictability.
"He sat in a big armchair in room. The room was big, he turned on a television. The television was big"
Christ....

"What do you know Goatboy? Who are you to tell us what to post and where? Blah blah blah blah"
I'm me, it's true, shut up.
"Intelligent discussion"
Nothing about the bombs in Turkey, nothing about Dubya's visit to London, nothing about the anniversary of JFK's assasination.
"Well I'm not interested in that stuff"
Well you should be. It's the world, it's what is going on around you, it's what will affect and shape the outcomes of your lives.
Or if you *are* going to write a short story, write one that is
(a) Interesting
(b) Has a point to it
(c) Doesn't involve murder/blood/vampires/war

You want to learn to write?
Great, take a ticket and join the back of line. It stretches waaaaaaay round the corner there, bring a packed lunch cos you'll be there a while.

You want to write seriously, you want it to be what, published?
Go for it.
But please, once you've written something, read it back to see if it can be improved. Give it to somebody that doesn't know you wrote it.
And stop crying when somebody says "That's terrible/sorry not interested/read it before/whatever".

Do me a favour you budding Danielle Steeles:
I'll set you a topic to write about in another thread, write your best attempt in there.
Your very best, re-write it again and then again.
Then submit it.
Write about what you know, something that matters to you. Inject it with yourself and not 5 sentences trying to describe the bloody temperature.

I'll pop back in a couple hours and give you the topic.
Trust me, I'm (in 2 years time) an English Teacher, and y'all are my students.

Just please stop bashing out gore stories with your forehead rods and getting huffy when somebody says "That reeks of ass".
Tue 25/11/03 at 02:45
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"cachoo"
Posts: 7,037
ßora† SagdiyeV wrote:
> Ms NY wrote:
> How is someone supposed to know their own story is crap ?
>
> when you're ranting about 3 legged gerbils and the price of grain in
> taiwan, you know you're talking complete bo**ocks

Haha! That doesn't sound so bad. Would just be using part of the imagination!

I say, let them keep on writing the stories; although there really isn't much choice anyway! I hate seeing the odd posts about Bushy-wushy and Politics, because it's not my thing, but yet, they still get posted. Yes, they're intelligent, but boring. Stories are/can be intelligent, but not boring. *tired*
Tue 25/11/03 at 00:13
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"5 European Cups!!!"
Posts: 5,795
Goatboy wrote:

Post these suck-ass stories somewhere else. Somebody needs to say it and I don't care about what you think of me enough to be the one to stand up and say it.

They suck.
Plain and simple.
Harsh but true. Deal with it.
---------------

You are one whinging tart.

You're meant to be grown up, yet you let yourself type such derogatory comments aimed at age 13+ who are trying to be creative with their time.

And Grix Thraves was spot on.
Mon 24/11/03 at 18:00
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"not dead"
Posts: 11,145
Stop posting stories? No, I don't think so.

There are a few things I shalln't do though:

1) Post every single story I write on these forums.

2) Post the first draft of a story.

3) Post in every thread asking for people to read my story.

At the moment I'm writing a story about an old couple that go horse-riding. Why? I was experimenting with a morphology board. I'll write about murder if I want to. In fact, at the moment I'm also working on a mystery that will involve murder, and cats.

I've got some advice for others too. You want to write? Then read. Read classics. Read contempory. Read everything.

You think the feedback here will improve you as a writer? Depends upon whether you're just getting the good, or if people are willing to take a moment to tell you if you story is full of exposition, if the dialogue doesn't work, if the character has no motivation to do what he does - things like that.

Study grammar, get it right, or nobody that matters will ever read anything you write. Take time out to read articles on writing, see what those that have done it say about it.

One more thing. It doesn't matter if the first few stories you write "reek of arsé". If you can find somebody willing to give you proper critique, and if you're willing to take it on board, you will get better.
Mon 24/11/03 at 17:09
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"+34 Intellect"
Posts: 21,334
Blank wrote:
> A primitive "O" grade?

Yeah, and he could blow through the hole to make circles of smoke wheel their way towards the offender in question.
Mon 24/11/03 at 16:51
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"twothousandandtits"
Posts: 11,024
A primitive "O" grade?
Mon 24/11/03 at 16:48
Regular
"+34 Intellect"
Posts: 21,334
Or Goaty uses the cigarette to burn a hole through the paper.
Mon 24/11/03 at 16:45
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
I have visions of Goatboy receiving a piece of work, reading over it quickly, calling the pupil to his desk while lighting a cigarette (SMOKER!"!"122). When the kid gets close enough, he takes a deep drag and blows the smoke in the kids face.

"Now" he says "re-write this, only this time don't make it crap."

The kid, coughing and sobbing amidst a stream of tears, runs wailing back to the back of the class.
Mon 24/11/03 at 16:42
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"twothousandandtits"
Posts: 11,024
Another great post from the king of diplomacy.

Surely, as you're an English teacher to be, you could come up with something a little more constructive? You can be damn sure that most high school pupil literature will be worse than this. Get some practice in.
Mon 24/11/03 at 15:46
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"Going nowhere fast"
Posts: 6,574
Black Glove wrote:

> I've decided that if I post anything more in here, they will be 'true
> stories/real accounts'. My twitching fingers were moving that way
> anyway.

I read this after reading your 'bully' story. I am now verrry frightened.
Mon 24/11/03 at 15:36
"Darkness, always"
Posts: 9,603
Yes, but nobody posted stories, and those that did didn't hang around to give feedback on other stories, so it was just a stream of one post topics and a lot of tumbleweed.

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