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When Nintendo revealed little information about Revolution I knew there would be another event, almost certainly Nintendo based, that would reveal the price, the games and the controller. Obviously Spaceworld is the event to do that.
There hasn't been a spaceworld since the Mario Sunshine/Wind Waker announcement. So the reply from a slew of forum users who will remain nameless declared "There has not been a Spaceworld in years, admit it Nintendo have screwed up". "Don't be so optimistic Dringo" and so forth.
Now both Miyamoto and Kaplin has confirmed that Spaceworld is certainly on the cards and Iwata has declared all the revolution info will be released by the end of the year.
And after hardcore reaction it seems almost essential.
I have to admit, that the new Nintendo console looks the best out of all of the rivals, and that makes a change!
There hasn't been a spaceworld since the Mario Sunshine/Wind Waker announcement. So the reply from a slew of forum users who will remain nameless declared "There has not been a Spaceworld in years, admit it Nintendo have screwed up". "Don't be so optimistic Dringo" and so forth.
Now both Miyamoto and Kaplin has confirmed that Spaceworld is certainly on the cards and Iwata has declared all the revolution info will be released by the end of the year.
And after hardcore reaction it seems almost essential.
I have to admit, that the new Nintendo console looks the best out of all of the rivals, and that makes a change!
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Dringo wrote:
> Guardian article this week reads "Microsoft X-box Vs. Sony
> Playstation 3" whilst in September it reads "Nintendo
> Revolution".
That's the thing, though - It won't necessarily have that. The Times ran a main-section report on E3, but they wouldn't run one on Spaceworld, I gaurantee you that. E3 makes the mainstream newspapers because it has LOTS of news to report. Any Ninendo only show won't have that same volume of news or impact, so it won't be as newsworthy. You'll get the stuff in the specialist press, of course - but who reads the specialist press? I'm sure I don't need to explain that.
I see what you're saying and yes I understand that Nintendo want to have the Revolution separate from the other two, and that is one method, and I'm not saying it won't work. They have gone the wrong way about it, though. They didn't completely have a "no-show", they showed a half hearted attempt which seems to be half saying they wanted to compete and half saying they didn't. What we ended up with was a disappointment - and the fact that they've disappointed so many people clearly shows that it was a bad move.
> Guardian article this week reads "Microsoft X-box Vs. Sony
> Playstation 3" whilst in September it reads "Nintendo
> Revolution".
That's the thing, though - It won't necessarily have that. The Times ran a main-section report on E3, but they wouldn't run one on Spaceworld, I gaurantee you that. E3 makes the mainstream newspapers because it has LOTS of news to report. Any Ninendo only show won't have that same volume of news or impact, so it won't be as newsworthy. You'll get the stuff in the specialist press, of course - but who reads the specialist press? I'm sure I don't need to explain that.
I see what you're saying and yes I understand that Nintendo want to have the Revolution separate from the other two, and that is one method, and I'm not saying it won't work. They have gone the wrong way about it, though. They didn't completely have a "no-show", they showed a half hearted attempt which seems to be half saying they wanted to compete and half saying they didn't. What we ended up with was a disappointment - and the fact that they've disappointed so many people clearly shows that it was a bad move.
They will run one for Spaceworld.
gerrid wrote:
> I didn't say they were doomed, I said the mistakes they made with the
> N64 and the GC impacted on us in that we missed out on a lot of top
> quality games that we otherwise could have had. I don't want the same
> thing to happen again, but I think Nintendo are making the same
> mistakes again. Don't reel out you "Nintendo have 6 billion in
> liquid assets" ballhats, I don't care about that. I know the
> Revolution will have Nintendo games, I'm not not complaining
> about that. At least read what I'm saying before you dismiss it.
*yawn*
> I didn't say they were doomed, I said the mistakes they made with the
> N64 and the GC impacted on us in that we missed out on a lot of top
> quality games that we otherwise could have had. I don't want the same
> thing to happen again, but I think Nintendo are making the same
> mistakes again. Don't reel out you "Nintendo have 6 billion in
> liquid assets" ballhats, I don't care about that. I know the
> Revolution will have Nintendo games, I'm not not complaining
> about that. At least read what I'm saying before you dismiss it.
*yawn*
Dringo, are you in a debating society?
Good one Dringo.
You're almost as bad as Hedfix at this.
You're almost as bad as Hedfix at this.
Answer the points.
gerrid wrote:
> That's the thing, though - It won't necessarily have that. The Times
> ran a main-section report on E3, but they wouldn't run one on
> Spaceworld, I gaurantee you that. E3 makes the mainstream newspapers
> because it has LOTS of news to report. Any Ninendo only show won't
> have that same volume of news or impact, so it won't be as
> newsworthy. You'll get the stuff in the specialist press, of course -
> but who reads the specialist press? I'm sure I don't need to explain
> that.
No, Spaceworld does appear in the main press. I can guarentee that.
> I see what you're saying and yes I understand that Nintendo want to
> have the Revolution separate from the other two, and that is one
> method, and I'm not saying it won't work. They have gone the wrong
> way about it, though. They didn't completely have a
> "no-show", they showed a half hearted attempt which seems
> to be half saying they wanted to compete and half saying they didn't.
> What we ended up with was a disappointment - and the fact that they've
> disappointed so many people clearly shows that it was a bad move.
Or it could envoke interest and discussion?
> That's the thing, though - It won't necessarily have that. The Times
> ran a main-section report on E3, but they wouldn't run one on
> Spaceworld, I gaurantee you that. E3 makes the mainstream newspapers
> because it has LOTS of news to report. Any Ninendo only show won't
> have that same volume of news or impact, so it won't be as
> newsworthy. You'll get the stuff in the specialist press, of course -
> but who reads the specialist press? I'm sure I don't need to explain
> that.
No, Spaceworld does appear in the main press. I can guarentee that.
> I see what you're saying and yes I understand that Nintendo want to
> have the Revolution separate from the other two, and that is one
> method, and I'm not saying it won't work. They have gone the wrong
> way about it, though. They didn't completely have a
> "no-show", they showed a half hearted attempt which seems
> to be half saying they wanted to compete and half saying they didn't.
> What we ended up with was a disappointment - and the fact that they've
> disappointed so many people clearly shows that it was a bad move.
Or it could envoke interest and discussion?
yes it "envoke"s discussion, but when the discussion is Nintendo fans saying that they're gonna be buying Xbox 360s because of how Nintendo has let them down, how can that be classed as a "successful" announcement?
I realise that there's still time, but now Nintendo have to heal the wounds that they've created, instead of just causing people joy.
I realise that there's still time, but now Nintendo have to heal the wounds that they've created, instead of just causing people joy.
I have to say, for me and possibly many others, its not just the no-show of Revolution now, but what they did show doesn't sit well with me.
I don't want to download the whole back catalogue of NES and SNES games, and I don't think casual players do either. Chances are I'll make about 2 uses of this feature the entire time I have it.
I want new Nintendo franchises with new original gameplay just like all the Mario games I've played over the years, and Zelda, and Mario Kart. And I don't think Nintendo needed a new system, only 2 - 3 times more powerful than Cube, to do this. Unless this new controller is something unthinkably amazing, I can't see Revolution doing what I want it to do.
And they talk about power not being worth much, but it is, okay? It adds to the atmosphere of the game, and can open new doors. 64 player Perfect Dark online, anyone?
I don't want to download the whole back catalogue of NES and SNES games, and I don't think casual players do either. Chances are I'll make about 2 uses of this feature the entire time I have it.
I want new Nintendo franchises with new original gameplay just like all the Mario games I've played over the years, and Zelda, and Mario Kart. And I don't think Nintendo needed a new system, only 2 - 3 times more powerful than Cube, to do this. Unless this new controller is something unthinkably amazing, I can't see Revolution doing what I want it to do.
And they talk about power not being worth much, but it is, okay? It adds to the atmosphere of the game, and can open new doors. 64 player Perfect Dark online, anyone?
I think that by showing the Revolution, but by not showing what is so revolutionary or showing any games, Nintendo did the console a disservice. If they hadn't shown it at all, then people have nothing to moan about - it's the half-hearted release of nothing dressed up as a console that got people annoyed.
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