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When Nintendo revealed little information about Revolution I knew there would be another event, almost certainly Nintendo based, that would reveal the price, the games and the controller. Obviously Spaceworld is the event to do that.
There hasn't been a spaceworld since the Mario Sunshine/Wind Waker announcement. So the reply from a slew of forum users who will remain nameless declared "There has not been a Spaceworld in years, admit it Nintendo have screwed up". "Don't be so optimistic Dringo" and so forth.
Now both Miyamoto and Kaplin has confirmed that Spaceworld is certainly on the cards and Iwata has declared all the revolution info will be released by the end of the year.
And after hardcore reaction it seems almost essential.
I have to admit, that the new Nintendo console looks the best out of all of the rivals, and that makes a change!
There hasn't been a spaceworld since the Mario Sunshine/Wind Waker announcement. So the reply from a slew of forum users who will remain nameless declared "There has not been a Spaceworld in years, admit it Nintendo have screwed up". "Don't be so optimistic Dringo" and so forth.
Now both Miyamoto and Kaplin has confirmed that Spaceworld is certainly on the cards and Iwata has declared all the revolution info will be released by the end of the year.
And after hardcore reaction it seems almost essential.
I have to admit, that the new Nintendo console looks the best out of all of the rivals, and that makes a change!
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AfroJoe wrote:
>
> No, not shareholders. Just stakeholders. We buy the products, and for
> the company to have money to continue to create further products and
> finance new products, a certain number of people need to buy them.
> And if Nintendo are losing potential customers due to not making the
> correct decisions on the business side of the equation, then it does
> effect us, no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.
So if someone doesn't own a console it effects you. You are aware Nintendo are the richest of all 3 video game departments... and year in year out they make the most money.
> You can state that as long as people are enjoying the games they are
> playing that's enough, but the thing is, Nintendo will
> eventually go down the pan if they don't get their act together and
> try to draw over more customers and third parties. Because this will
> then lead to more customers and third parties climbing aboard, which
> then leads to Nintendo making money, which can be used to create new
> products for these new customers and entice even more third parties
> over. It's a big cycle, Dringo, and as much as you try to claim that
> Nintendo are fine, the fact of the matter is, they're not. They might
> be making profit now, yes, but once the PSP has been properly
> established across the world, and the Xbox 360 and PS3 are around to
> spoil Nintendo's plans with the Revolution, things could become
> troublesome. Nintendo can avoid this happening by making the correct
> business decisions.
The third party support for the Gamecube is almost twice that of the N64. The PSP will not defeat the DS and the GBA, 2 mega powerhouses at the moment. People buy Nintendo consoles, at the moment, for Nintendo games. Nintendo make a killer profit because of that fact. Third parties are needed if Nintendo want to expand... they're not needed just to continue.
> Believe it or not, I want Nintendo to succeed in the games industry
> because I appreciate their consoles and I enjoy playing their games.
> Therefore, their inability to draw new customers to their products
> and also keep old customers purchasing as well will in the end have a
> knock on effect that hampers my gaming enjoyment.
All this because of a trade show. As edgy said, you're deluded if you think the casual gamer gives 2 sh*** about E3.
And Gerrid, if all you are saying is "some Nintendo fans are unhappy because of a trade show", I advise you take a stance and stop reporting random information we already know.
>
> No, not shareholders. Just stakeholders. We buy the products, and for
> the company to have money to continue to create further products and
> finance new products, a certain number of people need to buy them.
> And if Nintendo are losing potential customers due to not making the
> correct decisions on the business side of the equation, then it does
> effect us, no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.
So if someone doesn't own a console it effects you. You are aware Nintendo are the richest of all 3 video game departments... and year in year out they make the most money.
> You can state that as long as people are enjoying the games they are
> playing that's enough, but the thing is, Nintendo will
> eventually go down the pan if they don't get their act together and
> try to draw over more customers and third parties. Because this will
> then lead to more customers and third parties climbing aboard, which
> then leads to Nintendo making money, which can be used to create new
> products for these new customers and entice even more third parties
> over. It's a big cycle, Dringo, and as much as you try to claim that
> Nintendo are fine, the fact of the matter is, they're not. They might
> be making profit now, yes, but once the PSP has been properly
> established across the world, and the Xbox 360 and PS3 are around to
> spoil Nintendo's plans with the Revolution, things could become
> troublesome. Nintendo can avoid this happening by making the correct
> business decisions.
The third party support for the Gamecube is almost twice that of the N64. The PSP will not defeat the DS and the GBA, 2 mega powerhouses at the moment. People buy Nintendo consoles, at the moment, for Nintendo games. Nintendo make a killer profit because of that fact. Third parties are needed if Nintendo want to expand... they're not needed just to continue.
> Believe it or not, I want Nintendo to succeed in the games industry
> because I appreciate their consoles and I enjoy playing their games.
> Therefore, their inability to draw new customers to their products
> and also keep old customers purchasing as well will in the end have a
> knock on effect that hampers my gaming enjoyment.
All this because of a trade show. As edgy said, you're deluded if you think the casual gamer gives 2 sh*** about E3.
And Gerrid, if all you are saying is "some Nintendo fans are unhappy because of a trade show", I advise you take a stance and stop reporting random information we already know.
Ashman wrote:
> You say its awful how Nintendo fans are going mad, like mattribute
> "RIP NINTENDO". Well surely this conflicts with your other
> point that it doesn't matter at all and you don't care? You will when
> these people choose another console over Revolution and Nintendo lose
> business due to this.
Do you think I work for Nintendo or something?
I'm not bothered if a bunch of idiots are choosing a different console based on a trade show. I mentioned this to a few uni mates down the pub and they started laughing.
> You say its awful how Nintendo fans are going mad, like mattribute
> "RIP NINTENDO". Well surely this conflicts with your other
> point that it doesn't matter at all and you don't care? You will when
> these people choose another console over Revolution and Nintendo lose
> business due to this.
Do you think I work for Nintendo or something?
I'm not bothered if a bunch of idiots are choosing a different console based on a trade show. I mentioned this to a few uni mates down the pub and they started laughing.
Ashman wrote:
> I'm surprised we didn't see a poorly drawn Powerpoint circle with
> "Gamecube, N64, SNES and NES" dotted around the edges,
> really.
*
But weren't you busy?
> I'm surprised we didn't see a poorly drawn Powerpoint circle with
> "Gamecube, N64, SNES and NES" dotted around the edges,
> really.
*
But weren't you busy?
I think you're all missing something here.
You all seem to be deluded enough to think that the casual gamer even cares about E3.
You all seem to be deluded enough to think that the casual gamer even cares about E3.
Memorandum! wrote:
> Reggie said something like "there is a need to combine the
> controllers of the NES, SNES, N64 and GC into one entity" or
> something.
>
> I hope to god he was joking though.
> The NES controller was just a rectangle with buttons.
I'm surprised we didn't see a poorly drawn Powerpoint circle with "Gamecube, N64, SNES and NES" dotted around the edges, really.
> Reggie said something like "there is a need to combine the
> controllers of the NES, SNES, N64 and GC into one entity" or
> something.
>
> I hope to god he was joking though.
> The NES controller was just a rectangle with buttons.
I'm surprised we didn't see a poorly drawn Powerpoint circle with "Gamecube, N64, SNES and NES" dotted around the edges, really.
Dringo wrote:
> It's just funny. People are telling me Nintendo have let them down
> because they've made bad bussiness decisions.
>
> What are you, a Nintendo shareholder? No? Oh... Well... have the
> games become rubbish? What no???
>
> So you're moaning because of bussiness decisions? Which, to be fair,
> do make sense... they don't always work out (especially lately) but
> they do make sense.
No, not shareholders. Just stakeholders. We buy the products, and for the company to have money to continue to create further products and finance new products, a certain number of people need to buy them. And if Nintendo are losing potential customers due to not making the correct decisions on the business side of the equation, then it does effect us, no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.
You can state that as long as people are enjoying the games they are playing that's enough, but the thing is, Nintendo will eventually go down the pan if they don't get their act together and try to draw over more customers and third parties. Because this will then lead to more customers and third parties climbing aboard, which then leads to Nintendo making money, which can be used to create new products for these new customers and entice even more third parties over. It's a big cycle, Dringo, and as much as you try to claim that Nintendo are fine, the fact of the matter is, they're not. They might be making profit now, yes, but once the PSP has been properly established across the world, and the Xbox 360 and PS3 are around to spoil Nintendo's plans with the Revolution, things could become troublesome. Nintendo can avoid this happening by making the correct business decisions.
Believe it or not, I want Nintendo to succeed in the games industry because I appreciate their consoles and I enjoy playing their games. Therefore, their inability to draw new customers to their products and also keep old customers purchasing as well will in the end have a knock on effect that hampers my gaming enjoyment.
> It's just funny. People are telling me Nintendo have let them down
> because they've made bad bussiness decisions.
>
> What are you, a Nintendo shareholder? No? Oh... Well... have the
> games become rubbish? What no???
>
> So you're moaning because of bussiness decisions? Which, to be fair,
> do make sense... they don't always work out (especially lately) but
> they do make sense.
No, not shareholders. Just stakeholders. We buy the products, and for the company to have money to continue to create further products and finance new products, a certain number of people need to buy them. And if Nintendo are losing potential customers due to not making the correct decisions on the business side of the equation, then it does effect us, no matter how much you try to argue otherwise.
You can state that as long as people are enjoying the games they are playing that's enough, but the thing is, Nintendo will eventually go down the pan if they don't get their act together and try to draw over more customers and third parties. Because this will then lead to more customers and third parties climbing aboard, which then leads to Nintendo making money, which can be used to create new products for these new customers and entice even more third parties over. It's a big cycle, Dringo, and as much as you try to claim that Nintendo are fine, the fact of the matter is, they're not. They might be making profit now, yes, but once the PSP has been properly established across the world, and the Xbox 360 and PS3 are around to spoil Nintendo's plans with the Revolution, things could become troublesome. Nintendo can avoid this happening by making the correct business decisions.
Believe it or not, I want Nintendo to succeed in the games industry because I appreciate their consoles and I enjoy playing their games. Therefore, their inability to draw new customers to their products and also keep old customers purchasing as well will in the end have a knock on effect that hampers my gaming enjoyment.
When i heard it would play GC games i was in hope i could sell my GC/accessories and the games i dont like to get a bit of money for it, bah.
Only have two controllers and ones dodgy, all i need is the other to bust to so im stuck with a Rev and 20 games i cant play on :\
...reminds me was gonna search Ebay for a 64 controller so i have 5 incase of breakage
Only have two controllers and ones dodgy, all i need is the other to bust to so im stuck with a Rev and 20 games i cant play on :\
...reminds me was gonna search Ebay for a 64 controller so i have 5 incase of breakage
Ocarina wrote:
> 1) Presumably the Revolution's controllers will be so unique that
> they may not be able to provide backward compatibility for the older
> Nintendo games
Reggie said something like "there is a need to combine the controllers of the NES, SNES, N64 and GC into one entity" or something.
I hope to god he was joking though.
The NES controller was just a rectangle with buttons.
> 1) Presumably the Revolution's controllers will be so unique that
> they may not be able to provide backward compatibility for the older
> Nintendo games
Reggie said something like "there is a need to combine the controllers of the NES, SNES, N64 and GC into one entity" or something.
I hope to god he was joking though.
The NES controller was just a rectangle with buttons.
The Revolution has four ports for existing Gamecube controllers and 2 slots for the Gamecube memory cards. And since the Gamecube controller has all the features of all the past Nintendo controllers to date, it shouldn't be a problem playing even the NES classics.
Two things though:
1) Presumably the Revolution's controllers will be so unique that they may not be able to provide backward compatibility for the older Nintendo games
2) But Nintendo will realise that not everyone who buys a Revolution will have a Gamecube, and in the future it may be hard to acquire Gamecube controllers after the system is removed from whatever stores it remains in... so, will the controllers be able to provide effective control over the old classics as well as providing the "Revolution"?
Two things though:
1) Presumably the Revolution's controllers will be so unique that they may not be able to provide backward compatibility for the older Nintendo games
2) But Nintendo will realise that not everyone who buys a Revolution will have a Gamecube, and in the future it may be hard to acquire Gamecube controllers after the system is removed from whatever stores it remains in... so, will the controllers be able to provide effective control over the old classics as well as providing the "Revolution"?
Nah, just about everyone's better than Dringo.
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