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Wed 15/10/03 at 10:14
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"Infantalised Forums"
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Ok, I've had the DVD a week now and have watched it a couple of times.
And I thoroughly enjoy it. I don't care what anyone says about plot/CGI etc, because I enjoy it and that's all that matters to me.
Thoroughly looking forward to Revolutions as well, I'm avoiding all spoilers and scripts floating around because I want to be fresh, I knew a lot of the Reloaded stuff before I went in and that kinda ruined it for me.

Having watched Reloaded again now, some things I picked up on, thinking back to that website Snuggly unearthed about the company Neo works for in the 1st movie, and the info provided therein about Metacortex creating the "next generation virtual reality gaming".
I thought more and more about that, and the notion that Neo (being a programme writer in the 1st film) is either beta testing the new gaming system, or trying to leak the source code to Morpheus & Trinity (genuine hackers and not residents of Zion).
It makes more and more sense to me.

In the 1st movie, Thomas Anderson works for a company that writes computer software, and we know that he also is a hacker. We know Trinity is a hacker and that Morpheus is the leader of them all.
Anderson is approached by Trinity, first of all by hacking his computer screen when he sleeps
"How did you do that?" he asks etc.
Could it be that Anderson agrees to supply Morpheus et al with the leaked source code for the latest game called, perhaps, "The Matrix"?
There is constant talk in Reloaded about "The Source" and returning to "The Source", it could just be something as simple as source code for the matrix game Anderson is trying to leak to Morpheus.
Anderson could have the games system at home, allowing him to "jack in" and use that system to supply source info to Morpheus?
Metacortex could use their systems to jack in, creating Agents as representatives of company interests?

The Merovingian in Reloaded, when Persephone takes Neo to The Keymaker, is furious and swears at her, she taunts him about the blonde in the loo
"She wasn't kissing your face my dear" she says
"Merde...this is just a game. Just a game" he hisses.

I'm probably waaay off the mark and bored at work but hey, it killed 20 mins thinking about it all.
The Matrix isn't just a dream etc, but Anderson working for Morpheus in trying to supply leaked source code to hackers, with Metacortex & computer agencies trying to stop, all taking place in the virtual gaming world that the website talks about?
Backdoors used by programmers, gaining powers as Anderson/Neo "levels up" throughout the movie, the constant computer coding.

*shrugs*
I enjoy Reloaded, however it turns out.
Wed 15/10/03 at 10:49
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"Lisan al-Gaib"
Posts: 7,093
Goatboy wrote:
> That link made my head hurt.
> Now I'm bored at work, but with a head full of Gnosticism, Buddhism,
> Judeo-Christianity and trying to squeeze all the into my idea of it
> being a game beta-test.
>
> Damn.

Bwhahahahaha. Just giving you something to keep you occupied :)
Wed 15/10/03 at 10:47
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"Taste My Pain"
Posts: 879
Pandey, I've read all kinds of crap on the Matrix. From religious meaning, to "Agent Smith is the only human in the film" theories. The dream, the game, "the joke is on you" I've seen it all. It's quite funny I think that some people have dedicated so much time trying to divine meaning from something that I'm sincerely hoping will eventually be far more simple, for comedy's sake.

A more interesting readis this:
http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0234215/board/nest/2841147

I just have no idea what's going on in that discussion.
Wed 15/10/03 at 10:47
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"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Also, it affected my ability to put words in sentence order correct.
Wed 15/10/03 at 10:43
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"Infantalised Forums"
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That link made my head hurt.
Now I'm bored at work, but with a head full of Gnosticism, Buddhism, Judeo-Christianity and trying to squeeze all the into my idea of it being a game beta-test.

Damn.
Wed 15/10/03 at 10:36
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"Lisan al-Gaib"
Posts: 7,093
Pandemonium wrote:
> not though, as eZistenZ.

eXistenZ. damn awful word.
Wed 15/10/03 at 10:35
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"Lisan al-Gaib"
Posts: 7,093
Insane ßartender wrote:
> People think far too much about the movie. So much speculation. I'll
> watch the third installment when it arrives, and then buy the trilogy
> box set when it's available, and watch all three back to back and
> make up my mind then "what it all means". Till then, tis
> just some amusing kung-fu fun.

Just check this ount then: -

http://whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com/ (space) rl_cmp/ (space) new_phil_wakeup.html

Interesting read nonetheless.

As to the game idea Goatboy. Interesting and quite possible. I hope not though, as eZistenZ (I love the tooth gun in that movie) used a similar plot device (well, superficially anyway).

Lets hope the Wachowski brothers pull the rug from under everyone.
Wed 15/10/03 at 10:33
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"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Just seems to make more sense that a war between men & machine with an elaborate sophisticated mind-control thingymajig.

And IB, it's not thinking too much. It's sitting at your desk with 1 week left to go, bored and thinking about anything.
Today I've considered what I think the Matrix movies might be about, how I would fly about if given the powers and just why David Blaine talks so slowly.
Imagination + Boredom x No Coffee Machine = Matrix Meaning.
Wed 15/10/03 at 10:28
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"twothousandandtits"
Posts: 11,024
Not sure about getting the code to Morpheus, but I think you could be right on the whole "testing a new game" idea.
Wed 15/10/03 at 10:25
Regular
"Taste My Pain"
Posts: 879
People think far too much about the movie. So much speculation. I'll watch the third installment when it arrives, and then buy the trilogy box set when it's available, and watch all three back to back and make up my mind then "what it all means". Till then, tis just some amusing kung-fu fun.
Wed 15/10/03 at 10:14
Regular
"Infantalised Forums"
Posts: 23,089
Ok, I've had the DVD a week now and have watched it a couple of times.
And I thoroughly enjoy it. I don't care what anyone says about plot/CGI etc, because I enjoy it and that's all that matters to me.
Thoroughly looking forward to Revolutions as well, I'm avoiding all spoilers and scripts floating around because I want to be fresh, I knew a lot of the Reloaded stuff before I went in and that kinda ruined it for me.

Having watched Reloaded again now, some things I picked up on, thinking back to that website Snuggly unearthed about the company Neo works for in the 1st movie, and the info provided therein about Metacortex creating the "next generation virtual reality gaming".
I thought more and more about that, and the notion that Neo (being a programme writer in the 1st film) is either beta testing the new gaming system, or trying to leak the source code to Morpheus & Trinity (genuine hackers and not residents of Zion).
It makes more and more sense to me.

In the 1st movie, Thomas Anderson works for a company that writes computer software, and we know that he also is a hacker. We know Trinity is a hacker and that Morpheus is the leader of them all.
Anderson is approached by Trinity, first of all by hacking his computer screen when he sleeps
"How did you do that?" he asks etc.
Could it be that Anderson agrees to supply Morpheus et al with the leaked source code for the latest game called, perhaps, "The Matrix"?
There is constant talk in Reloaded about "The Source" and returning to "The Source", it could just be something as simple as source code for the matrix game Anderson is trying to leak to Morpheus.
Anderson could have the games system at home, allowing him to "jack in" and use that system to supply source info to Morpheus?
Metacortex could use their systems to jack in, creating Agents as representatives of company interests?

The Merovingian in Reloaded, when Persephone takes Neo to The Keymaker, is furious and swears at her, she taunts him about the blonde in the loo
"She wasn't kissing your face my dear" she says
"Merde...this is just a game. Just a game" he hisses.

I'm probably waaay off the mark and bored at work but hey, it killed 20 mins thinking about it all.
The Matrix isn't just a dream etc, but Anderson working for Morpheus in trying to supply leaked source code to hackers, with Metacortex & computer agencies trying to stop, all taking place in the virtual gaming world that the website talks about?
Backdoors used by programmers, gaining powers as Anderson/Neo "levels up" throughout the movie, the constant computer coding.

*shrugs*
I enjoy Reloaded, however it turns out.

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