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Mon 06/10/03 at 20:32
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AT college today the hot topic was "Did you see that Derren Brown bloke, wow it was so amazing I almost jizzed myself" well to be honest I didnt think it was all that impressive. He fired a blank away from himself, and granted he didnt die which is impressive, but I somehow think it was a bit dodgy. He fired two shots away from him and 3 at his head.

With only 1 bullet and 5 shots he had a 1 in 5 chance of dying, but fired two away so he only really had a 3/5 chance of dying. Thats 60%, just over half, and people have taken much bigger risks than that. Anyway it wasn't bad, but I felt it had a bit of an anti-climax. At least he got it over and done with in a few minutes instead of spending 44 days doing it like David Blaine - someone should hook their car exhaust up to his air supply.

Anyway I heard on the news this morning that a number of copycat had played Russian Roulette, unsucessfully, following Derren Browns stunt. All respect to the dead and that but ARE YOU BLOODY STUPID! Copying Jackass stuff and wrestling moves when it tells you not to is a different thing altogether. Firing a gun at your head is just plain retarded. Anyway they got what was coming... a bullet.

By the way did anyone else think the guy that loaded the gun for Derren Brown looked like Ralf Little of Royle Family fame?
Tue 07/10/03 at 17:02
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Goatboy wrote:
> Well you'll forgive me for listening to a press release instead of a
> web forum poster eh?

NEVER!

I saw front of one of the papers claiming it was all rigged (as I expected) but am yet to read up on it.
Tue 07/10/03 at 15:24
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Well you'll forgive me for listening to a press release instead of a web forum poster eh?
Tue 07/10/03 at 15:18
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They demonstrated what would happen if he fired a blank into his head from that distance. He would still have died, so that statement can't be accurate.

My personal guess is that they put a squib in the sack and the guy never even loaded the bullet into the gun. The last two shots were very close together, and I think the first was a cue to set off the squib.
Tue 07/10/03 at 14:26
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Channel 4 statement following Jersey Police admission:

Police confirm the bullet loaded into Derren Brown's gun during his televised Russian roulette stunt was a blank. Three million viewers saw Brown fire a gun, said to contain a live bullet, at his temple. But police in Jersey, where the stunt took place, said the stunt was a fake."There was no live ammunition involved and at no time was anyone at risk," said Lenny Harper, Detective Chief Officer for the States of Jersey police. "A prop company brought a number of props to the island and they included a quantity of blank ammunition. There is absolutely no way that the States of Jersey police would allow anybody to put themselves at risk and shoot themselves dead. "This programme was made by a TV company very experienced in pyrotechnics, in making smoke and bullet holes appear. It was no different to film which uses special effects. This was just an illusion - the question of whether it was in dubious taste is another matter." Brown had claimed the stunt needed to be filmed at a secret foreign location to bypass Britain's strict gun laws - but the laws in Jersey are just as stric t. Channel 4 would only say: "In making and broadcasting this programme, Channel 4 was very mindful of its responsibility to ensure the safety of all involved, and liaised with the Jersey police in advance of filming there to ensure that no offences were committed."

A spokesman for Brown declined to comment but said if the illusionist had fired a blank round into his head he would have died anyway.
During Sunday night's show, a hand-picked volunteer apparently loaded a live bullet into the Smith and Wesson gun. Brown, 32, claimed he could predict which chamber held the bullet. He fired the fifth towards a sandbag and it apparently went off. The cameras then showed a hole appearing in the bag.
Tue 07/10/03 at 14:21
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No, Ill admit I didn't as I didnt actually watch it ....
Tue 07/10/03 at 14:17
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You do know that the stunt was filmed in Jersey, which has different gun laws, don't you?
Tue 07/10/03 at 14:16
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And me, guns are NOT allowed in England so I think no danger is very unlikely and on a live TV show, the producer would be sued big time!
Tue 07/10/03 at 14:14
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C4 had already said they would pull the plug if "the worst happened". But the fact that the local police claim that having "a gun capable of firing a lethal shot" would have violated the island's gun laws, coupled with the fact that the stunt claims to have violated no laws whatsoever tells me that he was never in any danger.
Tue 07/10/03 at 14:12
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But it obvious he isn't going to die on LIVE Tv.

Plus the chances aren't exactly high, and he was probably told which chamber it was in anyway :D
Tue 07/10/03 at 13:20
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How can the chance of him dying ever rise above 50% unless he gets to the final chamber and decides to take his chances?

If there are two chambers left, there is a 50-50 chance that the bullet is in the next chamber...

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