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AT college today the hot topic was "Did you see that Derren Brown bloke, wow it was so amazing I almost jizzed myself" well to be honest I didnt think it was all that impressive. He fired a blank away from himself, and granted he didnt die which is impressive, but I somehow think it was a bit dodgy. He fired two shots away from him and 3 at his head.
With only 1 bullet and 5 shots he had a 1 in 5 chance of dying, but fired two away so he only really had a 3/5 chance of dying. Thats 60%, just over half, and people have taken much bigger risks than that. Anyway it wasn't bad, but I felt it had a bit of an anti-climax. At least he got it over and done with in a few minutes instead of spending 44 days doing it like David Blaine - someone should hook their car exhaust up to his air supply.
Anyway I heard on the news this morning that a number of copycat had played Russian Roulette, unsucessfully, following Derren Browns stunt. All respect to the dead and that but ARE YOU BLOODY STUPID! Copying Jackass stuff and wrestling moves when it tells you not to is a different thing altogether. Firing a gun at your head is just plain retarded. Anyway they got what was coming... a bullet.
By the way did anyone else think the guy that loaded the gun for Derren Brown looked like Ralf Little of Royle Family fame?
With only 1 bullet and 5 shots he had a 1 in 5 chance of dying, but fired two away so he only really had a 3/5 chance of dying. Thats 60%, just over half, and people have taken much bigger risks than that. Anyway it wasn't bad, but I felt it had a bit of an anti-climax. At least he got it over and done with in a few minutes instead of spending 44 days doing it like David Blaine - someone should hook their car exhaust up to his air supply.
Anyway I heard on the news this morning that a number of copycat had played Russian Roulette, unsucessfully, following Derren Browns stunt. All respect to the dead and that but ARE YOU BLOODY STUPID! Copying Jackass stuff and wrestling moves when it tells you not to is a different thing altogether. Firing a gun at your head is just plain retarded. Anyway they got what was coming... a bullet.
By the way did anyone else think the guy that loaded the gun for Derren Brown looked like Ralf Little of Royle Family fame?
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Essentially all so called magicians are really little more than tricksters or illusionists. I don't doubt that there have been a few individuals in history who knew real magic, but Blaine and this idiot certainly aren't in that group...however, who is worse, them for doing stunts like this, or the large sector of the public that laps it up for entertainment ?
How many sad individuals tuned into the Russian Roulette thing seriously hoping someone would blow their brains out ? The ratings are telling.
How many sad individuals tuned into the Russian Roulette thing seriously hoping someone would blow their brains out ? The ratings are telling.
**cough cough** ahem aren't any of you going to discuss the implications of lunatics like Derren Brown and David Blaine becoming famous thanks to publicity of them trying to seriously harm and/or kill themselves> I thought my last post was quite insightful :(
Cubist wrote ->
"I don't think people like Derren Brown and David Blaine are magicians anymore. They say they are but all their recent stunts are nothing more than choreographed tests of self-preservation under extreme conditions. On the one hand I hate magicians because they are nothing but manipulating frauds that specialise in tricking people as for these tests of self-endurance are just stupid. Anybody can put himself or herself in a situation in which they can potentially die; it's no big deal. The fact that they choose to do so of their own free will is just idiocy.
As a matter of fact I really hope David Blaine and Derren Brown do cause themselves serious harm. With all these people in the world fighting cancer, heart disease and other terminal illnesses for them to show such reckless disregard for life is sickening and for them to get away from it completely fine or relatively unharmed in David Blaine's case is like rubbing salt in the wounds of all those who have done nothing wrong in life but are dying through no fault of their own, struggling every day to stay alive only to suffer the inevitable, death."
Cubist wrote ->
"I don't think people like Derren Brown and David Blaine are magicians anymore. They say they are but all their recent stunts are nothing more than choreographed tests of self-preservation under extreme conditions. On the one hand I hate magicians because they are nothing but manipulating frauds that specialise in tricking people as for these tests of self-endurance are just stupid. Anybody can put himself or herself in a situation in which they can potentially die; it's no big deal. The fact that they choose to do so of their own free will is just idiocy.
As a matter of fact I really hope David Blaine and Derren Brown do cause themselves serious harm. With all these people in the world fighting cancer, heart disease and other terminal illnesses for them to show such reckless disregard for life is sickening and for them to get away from it completely fine or relatively unharmed in David Blaine's case is like rubbing salt in the wounds of all those who have done nothing wrong in life but are dying through no fault of their own, struggling every day to stay alive only to suffer the inevitable, death."
VenomByte wrote:
> It seems rather out to me that shooting three out of six bullets is
> going to result in a 11/13 chance of death.
>
> Can you please show me the workings on your math?
Tell me how many bullets were fired
How many lethal bullets there were
> It seems rather out to me that shooting three out of six bullets is
> going to result in a 11/13 chance of death.
>
> Can you please show me the workings on your math?
Tell me how many bullets were fired
How many lethal bullets there were
It seems rather out to me that shooting three out of six bullets is going to result in a 11/13 chance of death.
Can you please show me the workings on your math?
Can you please show me the workings on your math?
VenomByte wrote:
> lnsane Bartender wrote:
> How can the chance of him dying ever rise above 50% unless he gets
> to
> the final chamber and decides to take his chances?
>
> If there are two chambers left, there is a 50-50 chance that the
> bullet is in the next chamber...
>
>
> Yes, but if you fire the first five at your own head I can guarantee
> that your chances of dying are rather higher than 50%.
>
>
> He fired three rounds at his own head. The first, second, and fourth
> shots. This would mean his odds of not killing himself would be 5/6 *
> 4/5 * 2/3 = 4/9
>
> If the stunt were real, he had a 5/9 chance of killing himself.
11/13 actually do the math
> lnsane Bartender wrote:
> How can the chance of him dying ever rise above 50% unless he gets
> to
> the final chamber and decides to take his chances?
>
> If there are two chambers left, there is a 50-50 chance that the
> bullet is in the next chamber...
>
>
> Yes, but if you fire the first five at your own head I can guarantee
> that your chances of dying are rather higher than 50%.
>
>
> He fired three rounds at his own head. The first, second, and fourth
> shots. This would mean his odds of not killing himself would be 5/6 *
> 4/5 * 2/3 = 4/9
>
> If the stunt were real, he had a 5/9 chance of killing himself.
11/13 actually do the math
Ahh numbers it hurts....
lnsane Bartender wrote:
> How can the chance of him dying ever rise above 50% unless he gets to
> the final chamber and decides to take his chances?
>
> If there are two chambers left, there is a 50-50 chance that the
> bullet is in the next chamber...
Yes, but if you fire the first five at your own head I can guarantee that your chances of dying are rather higher than 50%.
He fired three rounds at his own head. The first, second, and fourth shots. This would mean his odds of not killing himself would be 5/6 * 4/5 * 2/3 = 4/9
If the stunt were real, he had a 5/9 chance of killing himself.
> How can the chance of him dying ever rise above 50% unless he gets to
> the final chamber and decides to take his chances?
>
> If there are two chambers left, there is a 50-50 chance that the
> bullet is in the next chamber...
Yes, but if you fire the first five at your own head I can guarantee that your chances of dying are rather higher than 50%.
He fired three rounds at his own head. The first, second, and fourth shots. This would mean his odds of not killing himself would be 5/6 * 4/5 * 2/3 = 4/9
If the stunt were real, he had a 5/9 chance of killing himself.
I don't think people like Derren Brown and David Blaine are magicians anymore. They say they are but all their recent stunts are nothing more than choreographed tests of self-preservation under extreme conditions. On the one hand I hate magicians because they are nothing but manipulating frauds that specialise in tricking people as for these tests of self-endurance are just stupid. Anybody can put himself or herself in a situation in which they can potentially die; it's no big deal. The fact that they choose to do so of their own free will is just idiocy.
As a matter of fact I really hope David Blaine and Derren Brown do cause themselves serious harm. With all these people in the world fighting cancer, heart disease and other terminal illnesses for them to show such reckless disregard for life is sickening and for them to get away from it completely fine or relatively unharmed in David Blaine's case is like rubbing salt in the wounds of all those who have done nothing wrong in life but are dying through no fault of their own, struggling every day to stay alive only to suffer the inevitable, death.
As a matter of fact I really hope David Blaine and Derren Brown do cause themselves serious harm. With all these people in the world fighting cancer, heart disease and other terminal illnesses for them to show such reckless disregard for life is sickening and for them to get away from it completely fine or relatively unharmed in David Blaine's case is like rubbing salt in the wounds of all those who have done nothing wrong in life but are dying through no fault of their own, struggling every day to stay alive only to suffer the inevitable, death.
I wanted to watch, but i was watching this film.
So, how many of you were stupid enough to believe he'd use a real bullet ?
It's TV remember, it's not real.
It's TV remember, it's not real.
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